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Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

Started by Lisa Wu-Hartwell at 2009/10/28 01:25AM
Latest post: 2009/10/30 12:38AM, Views: 1993, Replies: 127
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#71   2009/10/29 08:25AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
JaneDoe
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Quote Taye322: I haven't read all the post in here [in class, don't have time ]

First Hey, JaneDoe, NM & Only

I agree that at this point in the show, Liz doesn't deserve Lucky. Yes, they have BOTH mad mistakes and hurt eachother in the past. However, right now Lucky is trying really hard to do right by Liz and their boys and Liz is steady lying and leading him on. Liz and Nik are adults and if they really want to be together [however that may be] they should both be honest with Lucky and be done with it. If Lucky was really going to walk away from Liz because of her backstabbing [for lack of a better word] he would have done it when Jakes paternity was revealed to him. He didn't, I think Lucky is stronger than fans, Liz and Nik give him credit for. Either way Liz needs to suck it up, and own her ish! IMO



Hi Taye! Good to see you!





It's just a soap!

#72   2009/10/29 08:37AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
liz-fan
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[quote]Quote JaneDoe: [quote]Quote liz-fan: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote JaneDoe: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote lovelyliz: [quote]Quote liz-fan: No I don't care what Lucky deserves just because JJ is back playing the part. Go look at his history it's all on you tube for everyone to see how he cheated.

[/quote]

No one as said Lucky never cheated or is a saint. All I am saying is that he is NOT doing any of that now. The past mistakes of BOTH Liz and Lucky have been forgive by each other. What I am saying is that Liz is NOW being unfair to and treating Lucky bad.[/quote]

I agree NM, the past is OVER! They have moved on and what matters is what's happening TODAY. Lucky obviously loves Liz very much and I do hate that he's going to be so hurt by this.





It's just a soap! [/quote]


I know, I think the main focus of this thread is what is going on NOW, not what happened in the past.

Both Liz and Lucky have forgiven each other. I don't get the logic that because Lucky made mistakes and treated Liz bad in the PAST means that it is NOW okay for Liz to do what SHE is now doing.[/quote]

The main focus of this thread is:
Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

And if you say that you have to look at the whole picture not just the immediate one.
But it really doesn't matter to people who want to hate on Liz. They will. I'm good and don't care one way or the other. I still love her.

PS. Just so you know I hope and pray Lucky gets someone else. I'll take Niz and hope for Liason. So we are on the same side even if how we get there is different roads. [/quote]

I actually do not agree with the line:

Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

I just don't want her to break his heart. I was all for Nik and Liz until JJ showed up and NOW I cannot bear for him to be hurt by Liz. I know he's STILL Lucky, but it's just different. Lucky (GV's and JJ's) has been trying very hard to prove himself to Liz and I truly think the past should STAY in the past. I felt that way before JJ, but I liked Liz better with Nik than GV's Lucky. Now that JJ has returned, I can ONLY see LL2. The magic has begun and it only took one look.






It's just a soap![/quote]

This thread isn't about her being with Lucky. It's about how she doesn't deserve him and she so bad and he deserve so much better.

And I'll go with it as long as my girl doesn't end up with him again. I love JJ and I love Lucky but I don't want another LL2 no matter who lays Lucky.

I'm not seeing the actor. I see the character and the history of that couple. To me these two are toxic to one another. I'm ready for Liz to really have someone new. I hope for Liason I'll take Nick or someone new. Either way I'll back anything where Liz and Lucky have other partners.

BTW: In my post the second line was Liz is wrong.
So I don't think anything that Lucky did in the past makes what she is doing now OK.

I just think that the love for her is gone. And as I watched my mother who loved her husband more than life itself go threw some being cheated on. I know love doesn't always survive.

It maybe a soap but I just think these two are done or at least done for a long blame time.

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#73   2009/10/29 08:52AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Marocgirl
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Quote CarlylovesSonny:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote genhospchat: Does Liz even have feelings for Nik, aside from lust??? I'm sorry but this time, I can't say that Liz is just going by feelings. Liz ALWAYS had feelings for Jason and she had just found Lucky cheating on her so last time, it made sense. This time, it's just a horrible story and Liz is making herself look like a fool and she is hurting Lucky for no reason (yes I CAN call out my faves).

For me, Nik is just someone for Liz to go to that there are no expectations and she doesn't have to think about anyone but herself, something she's NEVER done before. The problem is, when she leaves Nik, life is still there and there is still someone who is going to be hurt.

Do I think she WANTS the life she told Lucky that she did yesterday, yes, but I don't think it's Lucky she wants it with. I think Lucky is just the person people EXPECT her to be with so she pretends to want him too.

The only thing any of this proves to me is that Liz and Lucky are NOT meant to be and that Liz is human BUT it is STILL annoying!




I have always been a Liason fan, so it strange when I find myself disagreeing with another Liasonite.

Yes, I believe Lizzie does have feelings for Nik. I think initially Lizzie was just trying to help out a friend; but, while they played that silly game she and he both started being attracted to each other. It may very well have been lust at the beginning for Lizzie because she has never shown any romantic attraction towards Nik in the past; however, it was different for Nik because he has shown feelings for her in the past.

I agree Lizzie has always had feelings for Jason; but, look where that got her, nowhere. Jason tossed her to the curb the first chance he got and went back to his woman which made absolutely no sense to me. Talking about Lizzie looking like a fool, she can’t look like any bigger fool than she looked like running after Jason and he insulted her by going back to Sam. How humiliating is that?

Yes, Lizzie was wrong for accepting Lucky's proposal and for hurting Lucky and lying to him; but, part of that was Lucky’s fault too. The situation and embarrassment for Lucky could have been minimized if Lucky would have respected her request. Lucky was the one who decided to announce to his family and friends that he and Lizzie were engaged again after she asked him not to say anything because she wanted to take it slowly. Lucky knew that she had doubts about them getting back together; but, he didn’t want to lose her; therefore, Lucky is just as guilty as she is. And, yes, others are going to be hurt as well as her sons and that is why she didn’t want anyone knowing about their engagement so soon. And, I believe she would have broke the engagement off if he wouldn't have put her on the spot. Lucky knew exactly what he was doing.

I agree that Lucky and Lizzie are not met to be and I doubt if GH bring a new love interest in for Lizzie. Without a love interest on this show, GH doesn’t seem to have an interest in writing for a single character. Lizzie is young and beautiful and I want to see her go after what she wants and if she wants to be with Nik then I’m all for it. And, I hope it turns out to be so much more. Funny, she went after Jason too; but, Jason at the end showed his true colors. Jason seems happy to me and I think if given the chance Nik can make Lizzie happy too. Jason is with a Cassadine and Lizzie is now with a Cassadine. It should be interesting.



Lizzie come out and Play! I completely agree. Yes, I like Jasam so some might say that i am basis. But I like strong female characters. I think that Sam and Liz are both lacking in this department. I recently jumped on the Jasam train because I like their history. I like their current chemistry, but that does not mean I can not see how hard it is for others to understand this pairing. But I think it would be a huge step back for Liz and her fans to cheer on the reunion of Liason. Jason left Liz and went back to Sam after he said that he would rather be alone. He chose Sam after everything she did to Liz and Jake. He didn't chose Liz and he could have...anything is possible in Soapland. If Liason happens it will be as though Jason finished with Sam once again...and he decided to go after Liz. It's your classic triangle and its degrading to the women. Men can sleep around and go from bed to bed. I would tell Liz fans to cheer her on in an independent story or a story outside of a man or a new man. But I'm over the Jason reconnection and this doesn't come from a Jasam fan, but fro ma LIZ and a woman fan!!


Lizzie and Carlylovessonny I love both your posts. You both made great points. I actually love this storyline. I'm still not sure who I actually want her with but atleast it's soapy and interesting. I just wish theydon't over do it and drag it out forever, to make Lucky look like a fool once again. Liz just needs to take a step back and figure things out. Didn't she go out of town for that very reason???

#74   2009/10/29 09:01AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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[quote]Quote liz-fan: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote JaneDoe: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote lovelyliz: [quote]Quote liz-fan: No I don't care what Lucky deserves just because JJ is back playing the part. Go look at his history it's all on you tube for everyone to see how he cheated.

[/quote]

No one as said Lucky never cheated or is a saint. All I am saying is that he is NOT doing any of that now. The past mistakes of BOTH Liz and Lucky have been forgive by each other. What I am saying is that Liz is NOW being unfair to and treating Lucky bad.[/quote]

I agree NM, the past is OVER! They have moved on and what matters is what's happening TODAY. Lucky obviously loves Liz very much and I do hate that he's going to be so hurt by this.





It's just a soap! [/quote]


I know, I think the main focus of this thread is what is going on NOW, not what happened in the past.

Both Liz and Lucky have forgiven each other. I don't get the logic that because Lucky made mistakes and treated Liz bad in the PAST means that it is NOW okay for Liz to do what SHE is now doing.[/quote]

The main focus of this thread is:
Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

And if you say that you have to look at the whole picture not just the immediate one.
But it really doesn't matter to people who want to hate on Liz. They will. I'm good and don't care one way or the other. I still love her.

PS. Just so you know I hope and pray Lucky gets someone else. I'll take Niz and hope for Liason. So we are on the same side even if how we get there is different roads. [/quote]

For me Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period is not the focus of the thread and I believe my posts back that up. I did not start this thread and had I started it I would not have given it this title.

I don't like what Liz is currently doing and I don't care for this s/l. Also, for the record, I am not a "Liz Hater". Just because some of us don't like what is currently going on, it does not mean we hate Liz.

One more thing, how in the heck did the quotes get so messed up with these posts??? I think I started it

#75   2009/10/29 09:08AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Marocgirl
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Quote CarlylovesSonny:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote genhospchat: Does Liz even have feelings for Nik, aside from lust??? I'm sorry but this time, I can't say that Liz is just going by feelings. Liz ALWAYS had feelings for Jason and she had just found Lucky cheating on her so last time, it made sense. This time, it's just a horrible story and Liz is making herself look like a fool and she is hurting Lucky for no reason (yes I CAN call out my faves).

For me, Nik is just someone for Liz to go to that there are no expectations and she doesn't have to think about anyone but herself, something she's NEVER done before. The problem is, when she leaves Nik, life is still there and there is still someone who is going to be hurt.

Do I think she WANTS the life she told Lucky that she did yesterday, yes, but I don't think it's Lucky she wants it with. I think Lucky is just the person people EXPECT her to be with so she pretends to want him too.

The only thing any of this proves to me is that Liz and Lucky are NOT meant to be and that Liz is human BUT it is STILL annoying!




I have always been a Liason fan, so it strange when I find myself disagreeing with another Liasonite.

Yes, I believe Lizzie does have feelings for Nik. I think initially Lizzie was just trying to help out a friend; but, while they played that silly game she and he both started being attracted to each other. It may very well have been lust at the beginning for Lizzie because she has never shown any romantic attraction towards Nik in the past; however, it was different for Nik because he has shown feelings for her in the past.

I agree Lizzie has always had feelings for Jason; but, look where that got her, nowhere. Jason tossed her to the curb the first chance he got and went back to his woman which made absolutely no sense to me. Talking about Lizzie looking like a fool, she can’t look like any bigger fool than she looked like running after Jason and he insulted her by going back to Sam. How humiliating is that?

Yes, Lizzie was wrong for accepting Lucky's proposal and for hurting Lucky and lying to him; but, part of that was Lucky’s fault too. The situation and embarrassment for Lucky could have been minimized if Lucky would have respected her request. Lucky was the one who decided to announce to his family and friends that he and Lizzie were engaged again after she asked him not to say anything because she wanted to take it slowly. Lucky knew that she had doubts about them getting back together; but, he didn’t want to lose her; therefore, Lucky is just as guilty as she is. And, yes, others are going to be hurt as well as her sons and that is why she didn’t want anyone knowing about their engagement so soon. And, I believe she would have broke the engagement off if he wouldn't have put her on the spot. Lucky knew exactly what he was doing.

I agree that Lucky and Lizzie are not met to be and I doubt if GH bring a new love interest in for Lizzie. Without a love interest on this show, GH doesn’t seem to have an interest in writing for a single character. Lizzie is young and beautiful and I want to see her go after what she wants and if she wants to be with Nik then I’m all for it. And, I hope it turns out to be so much more. Funny, she went after Jason too; but, Jason at the end showed his true colors. Jason seems happy to me and I think if given the chance Nik can make Lizzie happy too. Jason is with a Cassadine and Lizzie is now with a Cassadine. It should be interesting.



Lizzie come out and Play! I completely agree. Yes, I like Jasam so some might say that i am basis. But I like strong female characters. I think that Sam and Liz are both lacking in this department. I recently jumped on the Jasam train because I like their history. I like their current chemistry, but that does not mean I can not see how hard it is for others to understand this pairing. But I think it would be a huge step back for Liz and her fans to cheer on the reunion of Liason. Jason left Liz and went back to Sam after he said that he would rather be alone. He chose Sam after everything she did to Liz and Jake. He didn't chose Liz and he could have...anything is possible in Soapland. If Liason happens it will be as though Jason finished with Sam once again...and he decided to go after Liz. It's your classic triangle and its degrading to the women. Men can sleep around and go from bed to bed. I would tell Liz fans to cheer her on in an independent story or a story outside of a man or a new man. But I'm over the Jason reconnection and this doesn't come from a Jasam fan, but fro ma LIZ and a woman fan!!

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#76   2009/10/29 09:22AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
liz-fan
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[quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote liz-fan: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote JaneDoe: [quote]Quote Nightmoves: [quote]Quote lovelyliz: [quote]Quote liz-fan: No I don't care what Lucky deserves just because JJ is back playing the part. Go look at his history it's all on you tube for everyone to see how he cheated.

[/quote]

No one as said Lucky never cheated or is a saint. All I am saying is that he is NOT doing any of that now. The past mistakes of BOTH Liz and Lucky have been forgive by each other. What I am saying is that Liz is NOW being unfair to and treating Lucky bad.[/quote]

I agree NM, the past is OVER! They have moved on and what matters is what's happening TODAY. Lucky obviously loves Liz very much and I do hate that he's going to be so hurt by this.





It's just a soap! [/quote]


I know, I think the main focus of this thread is what is going on NOW, not what happened in the past.

Both Liz and Lucky have forgiven each other. I don't get the logic that because Lucky made mistakes and treated Liz bad in the PAST means that it is NOW okay for Liz to do what SHE is now doing.[/quote]

The main focus of this thread is:
Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

And if you say that you have to look at the whole picture not just the immediate one.
But it really doesn't matter to people who want to hate on Liz. They will. I'm good and don't care one way or the other. I still love her.

PS. Just so you know I hope and pray Lucky gets someone else. I'll take Niz and hope for Liason. So we are on the same side even if how we get there is different roads. [/quote]

For me Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period is not the focus of the thread and I believe my posts back that up. I did not start this thread and had I started it I would not have given it this title.

I don't like what Liz is currently doing and I don't care for this s/l. Also, for the record, I am not a "Liz Hater". Just because some of us don't like what is currently going on, it does not mean we hate Liz.

One more thing, how in the heck did the quotes get so messed up with these posts??? I think I started it [/quote]

I don't know about the quotes mess.
As for anyone not liking or liking Liz I don't know that either. I was talking about the point of the thread which is the name of the thread and what is being said here.
Most of the post are infact hating on Liz.

It was the whole purpose of the thread itself.
I view thing differently than I know you and JaneDoe do.
Many feel that if something happened awhile ago then it's over. I feel what happens to a character or couple molds them in the future.

I don't like what Liz is doing to Lucky but I don't hate her for it. I feel she isn't in love with Lucky. I think she wants to be but isn't and doesn't want to hurt him but she is flawed like every other character on the show and makes the same mistakes.

However I love Niz and I think the story line is soapy and interesting. So I watch it. BTW I don't think she's in love with Nick either. I think she is confused and lost right now. She's been in love with Lucky forever and then there is Jason who she loves but they can't be. Then there is Nick... he is making her feel things she hasn't felt since Jason and she doesn't feel with Lucky anymore. That is a strong draw qhen you don't know who you really are anymore. I don't really see tis ending with either brother or Jason. I think we will see the new Cassidine play apart in this mess. I just really want to see this play out.

#77   2009/10/29 09:50AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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Quote liz-fan:
However I love Niz and I think the story line is soapy and interesting. So I watch it. BTW I don't think she's in love with Nick either. I think she is confused and lost right now. She's been in love with Lucky forever and then there is Jason who she loves but they can't be. Then there is Nick... he is making her feel things she hasn't felt since Jason and she doesn't feel with Lucky anymore. That is a strong draw qhen you don't know who you really are anymore. I don't really see tis ending with either brother or Jason. I think we will see the new Cassidine play apart in this mess. I just really want to see this play out.


I do agree with this in part. I would like for Liz and Lucky to be together again even though that would be hard with the way the story is being written, but again, anything is possible in a soap.

I also admit, before JJ came back I felt bad for Lucky but just shrugged it off. Now I am feeling different about the s/l. Does it make sense probably not but it is what it is. We all have different opinions and that is what makes it interesting.

#78   2009/10/29 09:50AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
JaneDoe
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Quote liz-fan:
I don't like what Liz is doing to Lucky but I don't hate her for it. I feel she isn't in love with Lucky. I think she wants to be but isn't and doesn't want to hurt him but she is flawed like every other character on the show and makes the same mistakes.



ITA with this liz-fan, what do you know...crazy huh?

BUT, I want her to love Lucky again now that it's JJ. I know you don't agree with that, but I think your assessment of the current situation is spot on.

#79   2009/10/29 11:58AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
clalvis
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Quote JaneDoe:
Quote liz-fan:
I don't like what Liz is doing to Lucky but I don't hate her for it. I feel she isn't in love with Lucky. I think she wants to be but isn't and doesn't want to hurt him but she is flawed like every other character on the show and makes the same mistakes.



ITA with this liz-fan, what do you know...crazy huh?

BUT, I want her to love Lucky again now that it's JJ. I know you don't agree with that, but I think your assessment of the current situation is spot on.




Jane, ITA. I don't want to see JJ with anyone else. The JJ draw for me is the L&L2. I'm not saying that I wouldn't watch him in other s/l or that he wouldn't be great in them, but I really want the writers to fix this and have them get back together. Maybe JJ will be a very forgiving soul to Liz, if not,they can fine something else not someone else for him. He will never forgive his brother.

I keep thinking of JJ as not one of the Lucky's that cheated, but the one that got away 10 years ago.

#80   2009/10/29 05:55PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
liz-fan
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Quote JaneDoe:
Quote liz-fan:
I don't like what Liz is doing to Lucky but I don't hate her for it. I feel she isn't in love with Lucky. I think she wants to be but isn't and doesn't want to hurt him but she is flawed like every other character on the show and makes the same mistakes.



ITA with this liz-fan, what do you know...crazy huh?
BUT, I want her to love Lucky again now that it's JJ. I know you don't agree with that, but I think your assessment of the current situation is spot on.


Will wonders never end! LOL!

#81   2009/10/29 06:52PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!




If you don't see it then you probably never will because I saw and heard Lizzie telling Lucky that she wanted them to take it slowly and not announce their engagement to anyone; but, to seek counseling. Right after he agreed to keep that promise he dashes to Wyndermere to tell Nik that he and Lizzie are engage again and it was ok for Becca to know too. Then the icing on the cake, turns around and gives her a surprise engagement party.

Lucky could have respected her request. He knew she had doubts about them remarrying. That was being manipulative and in a sense it is the same as trickery to me.

Patient: "He wasn't too patient because patients would have waited like she requested. Supportive: In what way was he supportive? He was being Lucky wanting what he wanted. And, Loving: Yes Lucky loves her and he loves controlling her too. HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!You are right about that!


this whole post made me laugh. talking about lucky being disrespectful... yet liz is telling him she loves him one minute and making out with his brother the next. at least lucky isn't lying to HER FACE and hiding things from her. at least he apologized for springing the engagement party on her. liz is exactly right when she questions why he is so good to her.

gotta love those rose colored glasses. i should get a pair.


I have to agree with the bolded part as I was going to say the same thing. I do think that Lucky is pushing Liz into something she isn't ready for (the engagement party was wrong and Lucky's usual way of manipulating the situation to make it how HE wants it) BUT Liz is manipulating him by saying she loves him and wants him and then goes to Nik.

I can UNDERSTAND what she's doing. She DOES want the life she's saying she wants, and saying it I think she actually believes it, BUT she doesn't want it with Lucky (but is doing it because it's what everyone else wants and it's what she SHOULD want for the boys). Nik is her EXCUSE for thinking being with Lucky is wrong, instead of actually admitting to herself that she doesn't want Lucky. I just wish Liz would start admitting the truth to HERSELF FIRST and then Lucky. It's time this pairing MOVED ON from each other!

Not to sound rude Katie (and I know it will but I don't mean it to) but don't you have a pair of those glasses?

#82   2009/10/29 06:54PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote GH Princess:
Quote meowbowow: I am one that doesn't feel sorry for JJ's Lucky just b/c I remember how he and Liz were the 1st time around. Lucky has done many rotten things to her and always needed his ego stroked. IMO it's not fair to blame all of this on Liz when he did his fair share.


So if someone messes up it's OK to punish them years and years and years later???..... Ummmm OK. Since EVERYONE on the show is guilty of making bad decisons at one point or another in their life I guess that means they all DESERVE whatever rotten things people do to them. So if I guess according to this theory Liz DESERVED to have Jake kidnapped, after all she has made poor choices in her life too. She's no saint...... I see, ya that makes sence.


(bolded part) Yes like what is going on with Claudia right now. That was what, a year and a half ago that Michael was shot and NOW the revenge is happening??

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#83   2009/10/29 07:03PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
genhospchat
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Quote clalvis:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!




If you don't see it then you probably never will because I saw and heard Lizzie telling Lucky that she wanted them to take it slowly and not announce their engagement to anyone; but, to seek counseling. Right after he agreed to keep that promise he dashes to Wyndermere to tell Nik that he and Lizzie are engage again and it was ok for Becca to know too. Then the icing on the cake, turns around and gives her a surprise engagement party.

Lucky could have respected her request. He knew she had doubts about them remarrying. That was being manipulative and in a sense it is the same as trickery to me.

Patient: "He wasn't too patient because patients would have waited like she requested. Supportive: In what way was he supportive? He was being Lucky wanting what he wanted. And, Loving: Yes Lucky loves her and he loves controlling her too. HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!You are right about that!





I believe... in the counseling session that they both agreed to be honest with each other from then on. That whole agreement was a lie from the word start, Why? because Elizabeth was not truthful, therefore, Lucky was in his rights to break the agreement also (although he didn't know she was lie...I mean not telling the truth).

So again they are both wrong. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but trust is the key, and it seems to be lacking here and they shouldn't be together no matter which Lucky it is. They are just prolonging the inevitable.

Life is too short and Liz should have who and what she wants, and for now, that's Nik. She needs to just let Lucky know.

Lucky will survive, he has friends, family and fans.


I'm just going to ditto this post and say "spot on!"

#84   2009/10/29 07:13PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
liz-fan
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[quote]Quote genhospchat: [quote]Quote GH Princess: [quote]Quote meowbowow: I am one that doesn't feel sorry for JJ's Lucky just b/c I remember how he and Liz were the 1st time around. Lucky has done many rotten things to her and always needed his ego stroked. IMO it's not fair to blame all of this on Liz when he did his fair share.[/quote]

So if someone messes up it's OK to punish them years and years and years later???..... Ummmm OK. Since EVERYONE on the show is guilty of making bad decisons at one point or another in their life I guess that means they all DESERVE whatever rotten things people do to them. So if I guess according to this theory Liz DESERVED to have Jake kidnapped, after all she has made poor choices in her life too. She's no saint...... I see, ya that makes sence.[/quote]

No one is saying what Liz is doing is right but what we are saying is that Liz isn't the only one who has ever messed up. And you can't just say she doesn't deserve him because he's so good. He has done exactly the same thing she is doing now.

Neither action makes the others actions right but neithers actions make the them undeserving of the other one either.

And what part of an affair would warrent a person deserving to have their child kidnapped? (shaking head)

#85   2009/10/29 07:21PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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However I love Niz and I think the story line is soapy and interesting. So I watch it. BTW I don't think she's in love with Nick either. I think she is confused and lost right now. She's been in love with Lucky forever and then there is Jason who she loves but they can't be. Then there is Nick... he is making her feel things she hasn't felt since Jason and she doesn't feel with Lucky anymore. That is a strong draw qhen you don't know who you really are anymore. I don't really see tis ending with either brother or Jason. I think we will see the new Cassidine play apart in this mess. I just really want to see this play out.


I do agree with this in part. I would like for Liz and Lucky to be together again even though that would be hard with the way the story is being written, but again, anything is possible in a soap.

I also admit, before JJ came back I felt bad for Lucky but just shrugged it off. Now I am feeling different about the s/l. Does it make sense probably not but it is what it is. We all have different opinions and that is what makes it interesting.


Actually I totally understand! I know it would be hard for me to view Liz as the whole character if the situation was reversed but I would feel guilty if I didn't. So I would have to deffend the character apart from my personal feeling...But that's just me. I'm weird that way.

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