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Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

Started by Lisa Wu-Hartwell at 2009/10/28 01:25AM
Latest post: 2009/10/30 12:38AM, Views: 1996, Replies: 127
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#51   2009/10/28 07:03PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Hoping4Love
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Hey Lizzie!!!

I got a question....now dont be shocked when I ask you this....

But (shh whipsering) is this a Liz bashing thread?

#52   2009/10/28 07:07PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
heartliason
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Quote Lizzie Come Out And :



This is how I'm going to answer your question and I hope it makes sense to you.

The problem that I have with GH is that they play dirty because no one can play Lucky Spencer the way Jonathan Jackson plays Lucky. JJ's Lucky is Luke’s son in every way. He is a young mini Luke. He is a smooth operator just like his daddy and a bit of a con artist like his daddy. JJ's Lucky is not Greg Vaughan's Lucky. JJ plays Lucky shrewd in a very subtle way and he does not forgive easily.

As I watched the hospital scene I said to myself yep, Lucky is back. Lucky knows something is up with Lizzie and he plays on her emotions and guilt. He understood exactly what his father was hinting at; thus, the probing begins to find out what she is hiding. He knows he has lost some of his control over her and he is reeling her back in. Old proverb says, "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." This Lucky is street smart.

I hope I answered your question.


Lizzie I hope you dont take offense to this, but I am kind of confused here. I probably need some clarification. See I see that your saying GH could be dirty in their writing, however, in another post you said that Lucky was exhibiting trickery towards Liz. With the bolded part I need to know does that mean that GV lucky was not shrewd and did not forgive easily? Now I know some hold the argument that JJ Lucky is not GV Lucky but to me the character is the same regardless of the actor so it all depends on the writing. And for long now Lucky has been written like a doofus and sometimes a jerk. However, lately, prior to GV lucky leaving too, Lucky has been the adoring I dont know what to call it to liz, even ex like yesterday's epi. I guess I am trying to elaborate more on where the trickery is coming in right now and yes I did read the above post and the last paragraph makes sense, but I was just asking did that happen with GV lucky too and are there more ex of this behavior?

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#53   2009/10/28 07:08PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Lizzie Come ...
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Quote Hoping4Love: Hey Lizzie!!!

I got a question....now dont be shocked when I ask you this....

But (shh whipsering) is this a Liz bashing thread?




Hey Hoping4Love!

I think it is because it seems like it. I'm leaving and I'm not coming back. You have a nice evening.

#54   2009/10/28 07:17PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
tink55
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Quote meowbowow:
Quote tink55

I'm with you Meowbowow, Lucky is no saint, he didn't take his marriage vows seriously when he got into drugs and slept with Maxie. Liz should not carry all the blame.


No she shouldn't. She's wrong in this situation too but so is Lucky as the poster said he shouldn't have announced their engagement or thrown that party when she said she wanted to take it slow.

Hey Tink, great to see u around again!!


That's what in wrong with Lucky he just doesn't listen!
Thanks Meow, I took alittle sabitical from the boards. Been lurking alittle nice to be back.

#55   2009/10/28 07:36PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
clalvis
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Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!




If you don't see it then you probably never will because I saw and heard Lizzie telling Lucky that she wanted them to take it slowly and not announce their engagement to anyone; but, to seek counseling. Right after he agreed to keep that promise he dashes to Wyndermere to tell Nik that he and Lizzie are engage again and it was ok for Becca to know too. Then the icing on the cake, turns around and gives her a surprise engagement party.

Lucky could have respected her request. He knew she had doubts about them remarrying. That was being manipulative and in a sense it is the same as trickery to me.

Patient: "He wasn't too patient because patients would have waited like she requested. Supportive: In what way was he supportive? He was being Lucky wanting what he wanted. And, Loving: Yes Lucky loves her and he loves controlling her too. HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!You are right about that!





I believe... in the counseling session that they both agreed to be honest with each other from then on. That whole agreement was a lie from the word start, Why? because Elizabeth was not truthful, therefore, Lucky was in his rights to break the agreement also (although he didn't know she was lie...I mean not telling the truth).

So again they are both wrong. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but trust is the key, and it seems to be lacking here and they shouldn't be together no matter which Lucky it is. They are just prolonging the inevitable.

Life is too short and Liz should have who and what she wants, and for now, that's Nik. She needs to just let Lucky know.

Lucky will survive, he has friends, family and fans.

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#56   2009/10/28 08:09PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
alikat
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Quote katie28: gotta love those rose colored glasses. i should get a pair.


And the glass house!!!

#57   2009/10/28 08:37PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
AlyasMom
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This may seem weird to alot of posters who have picked sides and stay within those realms, me...Im a loner
And stand out! Why, because I have a serious Love/Hate thing for Liz. I am a fan of most of her work, and I genuinely root for her, unlike my sister who is just utterly disgusted with her and thinks she is a flake!
I still have love for her. Until she starts to act like a ditz! I cant take it!!!
It all started when she slept with zander after she was shot
Then she left Jason when she found out he lied about Sonny not being died
Then, she married Ric even though he was CLEARLY insane!!!
Then she sleeps with Jason, gets pregnant, and dont tell Lucky he isnt the daddy!
Then, she keeps lying...and lying...and lying
Now its this Niz crap??? WTF!!!!
She makes me want to pull my hair out, but I still root for her that she wakes the heck up ! Stop acting like a flake, and go for yours! Liz is going to keep finding herself in these predicaments because she wont ever go after what 'SHE' wants and stop settling because its comfortable and safe. Imma be cheesy and steal her own words and say "Love shouldnt be safe,"
She likes excitement and danger, and her relationship with Lucky has lacked those elements for a very very long time.
About 10 years worth

#58   2009/10/29 05:37AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
cincyghfan
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Quote heartliason:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :



This is how I'm going to answer your question and I hope it makes sense to you.

The problem that I have with GH is that they play dirty because no one can play Lucky Spencer the way Jonathan Jackson plays Lucky. JJ's Lucky is Luke’s son in every way. He is a young mini Luke. He is a smooth operator just like his daddy and a bit of a con artist like his daddy. JJ's Lucky is not Greg Vaughan's Lucky. JJ plays Lucky shrewd in a very subtle way and he does not forgive easily.

As I watched the hospital scene I said to myself yep, Lucky is back. Lucky knows something is up with Lizzie and he plays on her emotions and guilt. He understood exactly what his father was hinting at; thus, the probing begins to find out what she is hiding. He knows he has lost some of his control over her and he is reeling her back in. Old proverb says, "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." This Lucky is street smart.

I hope I answered your question.


Lizzie I hope you dont take offense to this, but I am kind of confused here. I probably need some clarification. See I see that your saying GH could be dirty in their writing, however, in another post you said that Lucky was exhibiting trickery towards Liz. With the bolded part I need to know does that mean that GV lucky was not shrewd and did not forgive easily? Now I know some hold the argument that JJ Lucky is not GV Lucky but to me the character is the same regardless of the actor so it all depends on the writing. And for long now Lucky has been written like a doofus and sometimes a jerk. However, lately, prior to GV lucky leaving too, Lucky has been the adoring I dont know what to call it to liz, even ex like yesterday's epi. I guess I am trying to elaborate more on where the trickery is coming in right now and yes I did read the above post and the last paragraph makes sense, but I was just asking did that happen with GV lucky too and are there more ex of this behavior?


Hey Heart if you ever get an answer to your question could you please share with me.

#59   2009/10/29 05:51AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Stacy1975
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This thread has gotten crazy! I just wanna add that I don't think Lucky throwing a surprise engagement party (pushy, sure) is comparable to Liz agreeing to his proposal then cheating on him with his brother. I'm a total Liz fan but let's be honest here, she's not thinking with her big head.

#60   2009/10/29 05:56AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
onlygh
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Ugh...I hate bash threads...unless they're about Claudia or Sonny...then they're fun!

#61   2009/10/29 06:09AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Charming the...
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As they say... no such thing in Hollywood as bad press. Good or bad, bash or praise, it's pretty cool that Elizabeth is getting so much attention. They kept her in the background far too long.

I am not happy with her story but if there is one actress that can pull off the crap the show is writing, it's the one that plays Elizabeth Webber. With any luck TIIC are tearing her down to build her back up again. I'd like to see the Lizzie of old back in action personally.

Frankly, for me, the natural progression of things would have Elizabeth and the father of her son trying to build on their love and work things out. As AlyasMom quoted, "Love shouldn't be safe.". However, Elizabeth's character isn't the only one in a story that doesn't play well for her or put her in the best light. The show seems to be writing at least 3 central characters in ways that make them either look bad or look ridiculous. It seems, at least in part, to be an effort aimed at keeping Jake's bio-daddy from 'domestication'.

note, I know this thread is about Liz and Lucky. I only mention the baby-daddy b.c I think the lack of that story is the only reason we have LL2 to banter about in the first place. The show threw LL2 back together with no story until now and it's still more about what's going on with Nik than Lucky

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#62   2009/10/29 06:23AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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[quote]Quote lovelyliz: [quote]Quote liz-fan: No I don't care what Lucky deserves just because JJ is back playing the part. Go look at his history it's all on you tube for everyone to see how he cheated.

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No one as said Lucky never cheated or is a saint. All I am saying is that he is NOT doing any of that now. The past mistakes of BOTH Liz and Lucky have been forgive by each other. What I am saying is that Liz is NOW being unfair to and treating Lucky bad.

#63   2009/10/29 06:30AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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Quote lovelyliz: So someone must be doing something right & enjoying it to talk about it. Because if u don't like it u can ff or don't watch.


Okay, I am enjoying talking about this s/l and getting everyones opinions. It's a controversial s/l IMO and those will always be talked about.

I would never turn off the show or ff because I don't like what a certain character's s/l.

#64   2009/10/29 06:34AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


I don't think Lucky is trying to "trick" Liz either.

#65   2009/10/29 06:35AM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Nightmoves
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Quote former-gher:
Quote mskat1216: I'm with you Lisa Wu-Hart.I can't stand that Liz character. Why you ask? Because she's just too "goody 2 shoes" 4 me. I'm suprised she's not pregnant yet. That's all her character is good for, that and making Lucky feel less then a man. If she was a real person her title would be TRAMP! And Nikolas is no better. He's just TRIFFLIN'. He knows that's his brother women. Down right SCANDOLOUS! I hope they let Lucky grow a pair and kick Liz to the curb. I know, he's not innocent either, but he is trying to do better. That's all you can ask from somebody is that they try to do better. PEACE OUT!




See, now, I prefer fly-fishing, with hand-tied lures to dangling a worm.


Good answer

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