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Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.

Started by Lisa Wu-Hartwell at 2009/10/28 01:25AM
Latest post: 2009/10/30 12:38AM, Views: 1988, Replies: 127
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#31   2009/10/28 03:29PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote Lizzie Come Out And : This is the reason why I don’t want Lizzie with Lucky as a couple because it has always been about Lucky. She is insignificant if it doesn't revolve around Lucky. As long as Lizzie walks a straight and narrow line and don’t hurt or upset Lucky she is accepted and love. If Lizzie hurts Lucky then she has falling out of grace by some. I detest this couple because it has never been about Lizzie. It doesn't matter what Lizzie wants and it doesn't matter if she is happy as long as Lucky is happy in this relationship. Lucky can do no wrong to some and if he does then there must be a good reason why he did it and is excused for hurting Lizzie no matter what it is. This dude has never been persecuted for hurting Lizzie as much as Lizzie has been tar and feather for hurting Lucky. “Lizzie Doesn’t Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky;” please when did he become the all mighty sainted Lucky because Lucky has not always been all that good to Lizzie. He has manipulated her for years. He pushes her, and pushes her and he is a master in making her feel guilty. And, when Lucky is angry with her and refuses to forgive her he will find a way to punish her again; but, it won’t matter because I’m sure there will be some who feel she rightfully deserves it. Yes, she accepted the proposal; but, she didn’t want to rush into marrying him because she had doubts and Lucky knew it, so he did what Lucky does best helped her out. That engagement party was a prime example how Lucky manipulated the situation and pushed her knowing she would not have the guts to break off the engagement if the entire family knew about them marrying again because he know she is "people pleasers." Lucky so conveniently made sure that Nik and Rebecca knew they were engaged right after she told him not to say anything to anyone. Yes, she is wrong; but, so is he.

She loves Lucky; but, I think she is trying to convince herself that she is in love with Lucky and if she keeps saying it she will start to believe it. Lucky is not that blind he knows and see the truth that is why he did what he did. As I mentioned earlier, I agree what she is doing to Lucky is wrong and Oh how I wish she will tell him the truth about not loving him any longer and that she has feelings for someone else and leave Lucky alone; but, she just can't seem to rid herself of feeling obligated to him. And, she has been Lucky crutch for so long that he is afraid to stand on his own too legs. They are both wrong for each other; but, they both are afraid of changes and taking risks. And, what make it worse is that they are both trying to keep a promise that they made as teenagers. And, JJ playing this role makes me detest this couple even more because he was the originator of this character and is so loved. He knows Lizzie isn't happy; but, he also knows her two weaknesses (1) she will do anything for her kids and (2) she is a people pleaser through and through.

If she could be without a man it would please me; but, GH won’t go down that road and keep her front and center because GH want couples and not individualism from a strong woman. And, right now I am enjoying Niz and I am enjoying watching Becky Herbst in a storyline because I’m sick and tire of just seeing her at the nurse’s station shuffling the papers and everyone else getting air time and being front and center. Becky Herbst deserves this storyline and I'm happy for her.


I'm happy for Rebecca Herbst too. She so deserve a s/l. Some like it and some don't but if you're a Liz fan it should not matter what kind of s/l she is in. Liz fans should just be happy she is on I know I'am & I am enjoying this s/l she has done a good job her & TC and Lucky.

#32   2009/10/28 03:32PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote mskat1216: I'm with you Lisa Wu-Hart.I can't stand that Liz character. Why you ask? Because she's just too "goody 2 shoes" 4 me. I'm suprised she's not pregnant yet. That's all her character is good for, that and making Lucky feel less then a man. If she was a real person her title would be TRAMP! And Nikolas is no better. He's just TRIFFLIN'. He knows that's his brother women. Down right SCANDOLOUS! I hope they let Lucky grow a pair and kick Liz to the curb. I know, he's not innocent either, but he is trying to do better. That's all you can ask from somebody is that they try to do better. PEACE OUT!




See, now, I prefer fly-fishing, with hand-tied lures to dangling a worm.

#33   2009/10/28 03:37PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote liz-fan: This is the only time I'm going to post in this thread...

Liz is WRONG, absolutely!

And I read the question, "Does Liz have feeling for Nic other than sex." I think some but it's not love.

Someone in another thread asked if Liz has any feeling for Lucky and I posted it there and I'm going to post it here.

This story reminds me of a country song... This guy and girl have been dating and he asks her to marry him and she starts to cry. Then she answers:
My hearts the only part of me that's not in love with you.

I know everyone wants to hate on her she bad and horrible but Lucky is a saint. Why? Because JJ's back? He's a great actor but it's the character that has been here and the character though he's great right now hasn't always been so wonderful.


Love doesn't survive everything. I'm sorry but it doesn't and sometimes it's time to let go.

Didn't anyone catch that Luke asked, if they even wanted the same things?

Lucky later said, he sometimes thought Luke knew him better than he knew himself.

Maybe Lucky isn't as in love with Liz as he wants to be. Like maybe his heart isn't as into this as his head telling him it's how it's suppose to be. I just saying..


I think u hit it right on the nail. I was noticing his expressions on his face the way he was cutting his eyes around looking at Liz. I think he do not want to get married just like Liz don't but both are afraid to say anything.
I like both characters but I'm a Liz fan first. Lucky has done things too he is not a saint. I don't care what people say about someone not deserving someone everbody deserve to have someone. Lucky is not good he is a cheater just because he came back he cheated on Liz the character.. he is playing the part of Lucky & Lucky is a cheater. He inherited the mess the writers did to his character he has to deal it because that is what he is.

No I don't care what Lucky deserves just because JJ is back playing the part. Go look at his history it's all on you tube for everyone to see how he cheated.

I don't care whos playing the part I have no sypathy for this character what he has did it can't be swept away like some want it to be. GO LIZ!!! JJ is Lucky now but he inherited all from the other luckys and they were cheaters.

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#34   2009/10/28 03:44PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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I not going to guess how people are thinking but JJ was Liz first love and he left the show. After he left there was another Lucky and another. Both of these Luckys cheated on Liz. JJ comes back and he takes over what the other ones did. It does not erase the fact that Lucky has cheated on Liz numereous times and just because JJ is back it does not matter he is playing the same character that cheated on Liz. I'm not saying it is right what is going on but I love the s/l it keeps me watching because lord knows nothing else on Gh does. This s/l is being talked about more than any other s/l on Gh now. So someone must be doing something right & enjoying it to talk about it. Because if u don't like it u can ff or don't watch. I love it. I think Rebecca Herbst is doing a good job and TC. Go Niz!

Thanks GH for bringing this s/l it is keeping me watching.

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#35   2009/10/28 04:05PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.

#36   2009/10/28 04:07PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!

#37   2009/10/28 04:19PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


Yeah katie...love my Liz but I'm not seeing any trickery from Lucky (JJ or GV's version)...at least lately. Lucky's biggest problem right now is that he's blinded by love. JJ's Lucky was a sharp cookie always (even in love)...methinks the writers will take this opportunity to remind us that Lucky does have brains (even though GV's version did not...but boy did he look mighty fine )...it's just a matter of time until Lucky figures out what's wrong with the picture.

#38   2009/10/28 04:20PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote former-gher:
Quote mskat1216: I'm with you Lisa Wu-Hart.I can't stand that Liz character. Why you ask? Because she's just too "goody 2 shoes" 4 me. I'm suprised she's not pregnant yet. That's all her character is good for, that and making Lucky feel less then a man. If she was a real person her title would be TRAMP! And Nikolas is no better. He's just TRIFFLIN'. He knows that's his brother women. Down right SCANDOLOUS! I hope they let Lucky grow a pair and kick Liz to the curb. I know, he's not innocent either, but he is trying to do better. That's all you can ask from somebody is that they try to do better. PEACE OUT!




See, now, I prefer fly-fishing, with hand-tied lures to dangling a worm.


LOL

#39   2009/10/28 04:22PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


Yeah katie...love my Liz but I'm not seeing any trickery from Lucky (JJ or GV's version)...at least lately. Lucky's biggest problem right now is that he's blinded by love. JJ's Lucky was a sharp cookie always (even in love)...methinks the writers will take this opportunity to remind us that Lucky does have brains (even though GV's version did not...but boy did he look mighty fine )...it's just a matter of time until Lucky figures out what's wrong with the picture.


i agree... and i really hope so. i am already melting every time i see JJ on my screen. lol. his teary eyes. *sigh* those soft lips *double sigh* his quiet, sexy voice... okay... gotta go take a shower now... preferably a freezing cold one!

#40   2009/10/28 04:24PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote katie28:
Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


Yeah katie...love my Liz but I'm not seeing any trickery from Lucky (JJ or GV's version)...at least lately. Lucky's biggest problem right now is that he's blinded by love. JJ's Lucky was a sharp cookie always (even in love)...methinks the writers will take this opportunity to remind us that Lucky does have brains (even though GV's version did not...but boy did he look mighty fine )...it's just a matter of time until Lucky figures out what's wrong with the picture.


i agree... and i really hope so. i am already melting every time i see JJ on my screen. lol. his teary eyes. *sigh* those soft lips *double sigh* his quiet, sexy voice... okay... gotta go take a shower now... preferably a freezing cold one!


He is the cat's meow, isn't he katie?


L&L2 All The Way Baby!

#41   2009/10/28 04:25PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
katie28
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Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


Yeah katie...love my Liz but I'm not seeing any trickery from Lucky (JJ or GV's version)...at least lately. Lucky's biggest problem right now is that he's blinded by love. JJ's Lucky was a sharp cookie always (even in love)...methinks the writers will take this opportunity to remind us that Lucky does have brains (even though GV's version did not...but boy did he look mighty fine )...it's just a matter of time until Lucky figures out what's wrong with the picture.


i agree... and i really hope so. i am already melting every time i see JJ on my screen. lol. his teary eyes. *sigh* those soft lips *double sigh* his quiet, sexy voice... okay... gotta go take a shower now... preferably a freezing cold one!


He is the cat's meow, isn't he katie?


L&L2 All The Way Baby!


he really is. i bet no one new how much of a closet lucky fan i am. lol. especially JJ's lucky. *swoon*

#42   2009/10/28 04:29PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
Burst-JasonLiz
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I likey Elizabeth! Lucky who?

#43   2009/10/28 04:30PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
CarlylovesSonny
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Quote katie28:
Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote onlygh:
Quote katie28:
Quote Lizzie Come Out And :
Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!




And, I can say that I detest Lucky for the trickery he tries to pull on her. He hasn't changed not one bit. It is just a different actor playing the same role.


i'm confused... how exactly is lucky trying to trick liz? because i see him being patient, supportive, and loving... HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!


Yeah katie...love my Liz but I'm not seeing any trickery from Lucky (JJ or GV's version)...at least lately. Lucky's biggest problem right now is that he's blinded by love. JJ's Lucky was a sharp cookie always (even in love)...methinks the writers will take this opportunity to remind us that Lucky does have brains (even though GV's version did not...but boy did he look mighty fine )...it's just a matter of time until Lucky figures out what's wrong with the picture.


i agree... and i really hope so. i am already melting every time i see JJ on my screen. lol. his teary eyes. *sigh* those soft lips *double sigh* his quiet, sexy voice... okay... gotta go take a shower now... preferably a freezing cold one!


He is the cat's meow, isn't he katie?


L&L2 All The Way Baby!


he really is. i bet no one new how much of a closet lucky fan i am. lol. especially JJ's lucky. *swoon*


I think Lucky has mad mistakes, but I've never seen this extreme abusive lucky that some Liz fans say exists and I definitely don't see that Lucky in this storyline.

#44   2009/10/28 04:50PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote genhospchat: I am a HUGE Liz fan and I don't want her with Nik or Liz either! I think you will find A LOT of Liz fans don't want her with either of them!

You don't think Nik has ANY blame in this? It's his brother, he has a girlfriend!

I DO feel bad for Lucky and just wish they would end these two IMMEDIATELY, if not sooner!!!!!!!!! I didn't want them together after them being with others, so I CERTAINLY don't want it NOW!!!!

Well at least I got to say something before this thread got closed!


I'm a die-hard Liz fan and I want her far, far, FAR AWAY from both of them, even w/JJ back. ITA Gen, they BOTH played a part in this ugly situation, not just Liz!!

#45   2009/10/28 05:03PM
Re: Liz Doesn't Deserve Someone As Good As Lucky Period.
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Quote Lisa Wu-Hartwell: Hell she doesn't deserve Nikolas. I think that she be alone because what doing to Lucky. I am proud to say that I hate her with a passion!!!!!!!



who would have thought, some one who doesnt like Liz eh

Lucky deserves better whether Lucky is being portrayed by GV(Whom I miss-and good luck GV I know you will land on your feet and I cant wait to see him on another show) or JJ; Liz has constantly walked all over him and abused his love for her and their children for too long.
This whole "I know she loves him and she doesnt want to hurt him or jeapardize his recovery" is bull and just another excuse (& what a sorry one it is); I've said this before and I'll say it again Lucky is in charge of his own sobriety end of story.
Liz wants to have fun, period, she doesnt care if Lucky gets hurt as long as she has her fun, 'cause of course Lucky always forgives her and makes excuses for her.
Another excuse I constantly hear is that Lucky is somehow "pressuring" her-please, she is a grown woman?
It's like she can do no wrong, I guess; look how poor rebecca was blasted when she came to PC, under false pretenses; If it was another character they would have been blasted from here to kingdom come & we all know it; just call it like it is, if sth is not right it's not.

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