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What's Kate's real motive?

Started by cherrycola at 2009/10/26 04:38PM
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#1   2009/10/26 04:38PM
What's Kate's real motive?
cherrycola
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Why is Kate so hell-bent on exposing Dante as Sonny's son?

I know the (tired) argument about how Sonny should know who his child is and vice versa, but somehow I just don't believe Kate, who wouldn't even admit to being a Falconari until forced to do so, is all about moral fiber and family fidelity. It doesn't feel like this is about Dante at all, really. She may THINK she wants to tell because of truth, justice and the American way, but it's almost like she has an unconscious motivation.

I'm not sure the writer's have thought this out very well. Having been shot herself (Twice?) because of Sonny and having watched Michael get shot in front of her, I'd think Kate would be the first one to make sure Sonny and Dante do NOT find out about their relationship.

#2   2009/10/26 04:55PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
JazzJade
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It seems like the writers are trying to redeem her and make her look like she is changing because she is realizing what a mistake she made giving up her family was. that is why she is trying to get olivia to tell the truth because i think that once sonny and dante know they are father and son sonny is not gonna kill his son and dante will most likely not want to put his own father in jail or he will think about it a little harder
However if they do not find out dante wont hesitate to put sonny in jail and sonny wont hesitate to kill dante.
As far as kate i love the new her but i dont think she is being kate now she is finally being connie and i love it!!!!

#3   2009/10/26 05:02PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
cherrycola
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I do like the new Kate (and I liked the old Kate before Sonny sucked her dry of any backbone) except for her hounding on the Dante topic. It just feels contrived.
Why should she give a flip about a man who not only got her shot at her wedding, but has apparently forgotten she ever existed?

#4   2009/10/26 05:18PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
JazzJade
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thats so true!! i completely agree with you on the whole sonny thing however she should care about her family and there is a possibility that dante could get killed and she wants to prevent that olivia needs to realize that telling at least dante (she doesn't need to tell sonny!) can save him because i really can not see sonny getting caught for anything as much as that annoys me.

#5   2009/10/26 05:24PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
cherrycola
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Quote JazzJade: thats so true!! i completely agree with you on the whole sonny thing however she should care about her family and there is a possibility that dante could get killed and she wants to prevent that olivia needs to realize that telling at least dante (she doesn't need to tell sonny!) can save him because i really can not see sonny getting caught for anything as much as that annoys me.


I am so hoping Dante won't care and will proceed anyway.
Chances of that are next to nothing, though, since MB has ages left on his contract.

#6   2009/10/26 05:30PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
GH Princess
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Quote cherrycola: Why is Kate so hell-bent on exposing Dante as Sonny's son?

I know the (tired) argument about how Sonny should know who his child is and vice versa, but somehow I just don't believe Kate, who wouldn't even admit to being a Falconari until forced to do so, is all about moral fiber and family fidelity. It doesn't feel like this is about Dante at all, really. She may THINK she wants to tell because of truth, justice and the American way, but it's almost like she has an unconscious motivation.

I'm not sure the writer's have thought this out very well. Having been shot herself (Twice?) because of Sonny and having watched Michael get shot in front of her, I'd think Kate would be the first one to make sure Sonny and Dante do NOT find out about their relationship.


While a person would THINK Kate would understand 100% Olivia's reasoning to keep the secret, Kate is also a know-it-all who thinks she should dictate what everyone else does even when it's none of her business. I mean she wrote off her family what.... 20 years ago. Had no contact with them and pretended they didn't even exist. NOW all of a sudden she has not only an opinion but the nerve to tell Olivia what to do!!??! Kate's not happy until everyone else is a miserable as she is.

#7   2009/10/26 05:32PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
JazzJade
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i have a suspicion that she wouldnt be as miserable if she was going steady with coleman i like them together

#8   2009/10/26 05:35PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
cherrycola
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Quote GH Princess:
Quote cherrycola: Why is Kate so hell-bent on exposing Dante as Sonny's son?

I know the (tired) argument about how Sonny should know who his child is and vice versa, but somehow I just don't believe Kate, who wouldn't even admit to being a Falconari until forced to do so, is all about moral fiber and family fidelity. It doesn't feel like this is about Dante at all, really. She may THINK she wants to tell because of truth, justice and the American way, but it's almost like she has an unconscious motivation.

I'm not sure the writer's have thought this out very well. Having been shot herself (Twice?) because of Sonny and having watched Michael get shot in front of her, I'd think Kate would be the first one to make sure Sonny and Dante do NOT find out about their relationship.


While a person would THINK Kate would understand 100% Olivia's reasoning to keep the secret, Kate is also a know-it-all who thinks she should dictate what everyone else does even when it's none of her business. I mean she wrote off her family what.... 20 years ago. Had no contact with them and pretended they didn't even exist. NOW all of a sudden she has not only an opinion but the nerve to tell Olivia what to do!!??! Kate's not happy until everyone else is a miserable as she is.


And I think that's why it doesn't make sense to me. You'd think she'd want to distance herself as much as possible from Dante and olivia, not be all up in their business like she is.

#9   2009/10/26 07:27PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
SparkApCider
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I never really cared for Olivia. She came in spouting her highhanded BH morals, spitting on Connie's need to break free of the old baggage, and yet she was carrying some of her own.


I think Kate has a motive...but I recall Olivia 'doing the good will of society' when she was knocking her ghetto azz around P.C. like she owned the place.

I wasn't listening to her any more than I was listening with intent to Kate...until Kate made mention of dual to death with Sonny and Dante. Then I started to listen. And loved hearing Guza's mouth speaking as Olivia--"that's why I stuck around P.C. So long"

Guza please! Olivia was around for the count when she came on set...that Dante/FBI thing was a backpedal. A good dynamic...but we all know that this isn't going to go down sweet.

Dante IMHO is coming to the PCPD. And GH will attempt to do to the mob what they tried to do with Taggert/Cruz.

I think Lucky is secretly going to the FBI. JMHO.

#10   2009/10/26 07:32PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
AlyasMom
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Quote cherrycola:
Quote GH Princess:
Quote cherrycola: Why is Kate so hell-bent on exposing Dante as Sonny's son?

I know the (tired) argument about how Sonny should know who his child is and vice versa, but somehow I just don't believe Kate, who wouldn't even admit to being a Falconari until forced to do so, is all about moral fiber and family fidelity. It doesn't feel like this is about Dante at all, really. She may THINK she wants to tell because of truth, justice and the American way, but it's almost like she has an unconscious motivation.

I'm not sure the writer's have thought this out very well. Having been shot herself (Twice?) because of Sonny and having watched Michael get shot in front of her, I'd think Kate would be the first one to make sure Sonny and Dante do NOT find out about their relationship.


While a person would THINK Kate would understand 100% Olivia's reasoning to keep the secret, Kate is also a know-it-all who thinks she should dictate what everyone else does even when it's none of her business. I mean she wrote off her family what.... 20 years ago. Had no contact with them and pretended they didn't even exist. NOW all of a sudden she has not only an opinion but the nerve to tell Olivia what to do!!??! Kate's not happy until everyone else is a miserable as she is.


And I think that's why it doesn't make sense to me. You'd think she'd want to distance herself as much as possible from Dante and olivia, not be all up in their business like she is.


Does anything these writters do make sense! But what she said to Olivia tonight made alot of sense about the dangerous game she is playing with her childs life.
She witness first hand how hot-headed(stupid) Sonny can be, especially over that Karpov mess! And she still is staying silent, and sleeping with Johnny at the same time
Who told her Dante was going back to Brooklyn any time soon! Kate was shot twice dealing with Sonny and his spawns, she should just back up off this entire situation, she said her peace, now be at peace with it!

#11   2009/10/26 07:32PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
Jasam09
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Quote SparkApCider: I never really cared for Olivia. She came in spouting her highhanded BH morals, spitting on Connie's need to break free of the old baggage, and yet she was carrying some of her own.


I think Kate has a motive...but I recall Olivia 'doing the good will of society' when she was knocking her ghetto azz around P.C. like she owned the place.

I wasn't listening to her any more than I was listening with intent to Kate...until Kate made mention of dual to death with Sonny and Dante. Then I started to listen. And loved hearing Guza's mouth speaking as Olivia--"that's why I stuck around P.C. So long"

Guza please! Olivia was around for the count when she came on set...that Dante/FBI thing was a backpedal. A good dynamic...but we all know that this isn't going to go down sweet.

Dante IMHO is coming to the PCPD. And GH will attempt to do to the mob what they tried to do with Taggert/Cruz.

I think Lucky is secretly going to the FBI. JMHO.


haha, I like that, "highhanded BH morals."

Claudia should use that.

#12   2009/10/26 08:13PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
meowbowow
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Quote cherrycola: Why is Kate so hell-bent on exposing Dante as Sonny's son?

I know the (tired) argument about how Sonny should know who his child is and vice versa, but somehow I just don't believe Kate, who wouldn't even admit to being a Falconari until forced to do so, is all about moral fiber and family fidelity. It doesn't feel like this is about Dante at all, really. She may THINK she wants to tell because of truth, justice and the American way, but it's almost like she has an unconscious motivation.

I'm not sure the writer's have thought this out very well. Having been shot herself (Twice?) because of Sonny and having watched Michael get shot in front of her, I'd think Kate would be the first one to make sure Sonny and Dante do NOT find out about their relationship.


I don't know but I wish she'd SHUT HER YAP about it!! Is she jealous b/c Olivia has Sonny's son and wishes she did or what? I've no clue but I'm pretty sick of her right now!!

#13   2009/10/26 08:26PM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
heartliason
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Quote SparkApCider: I never really cared for Olivia. She came in spouting her highhanded BH morals, spitting on Connie's need to break free of the old baggage, and yet she was carrying some of her own.


I think Kate has a motive...but I recall Olivia 'doing the good will of society' when she was knocking her ghetto azz around P.C. like she owned the place.

I wasn't listening to her any more than I was listening with intent to Kate...until Kate made mention of dual to death with Sonny and Dante. Then I started to listen. And loved hearing Guza's mouth speaking as Olivia--"that's why I stuck around P.C. So long"

Guza please! Olivia was around for the count when she came on set...that Dante/FBI thing was a backpedal. A good dynamic...but we all know that this isn't going to go down sweet.

Dante IMHO is coming to the PCPD. And GH will attempt to do to the mob what they tried to do with Taggert/Cruz.

I think Lucky is secretly going to the FBI. JMHO.


LOL, luv this post, I guess its the disdain I have for Olivia. But I am at a loss for what Kate is doing she probably needs some attention right now or maybe she had an epiphany, who knows.

#14   2009/10/27 02:57AM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
cherrycola
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Quote heartliason:
Quote SparkApCider: I never really cared for Olivia. She came in spouting her highhanded BH morals, spitting on Connie's need to break free of the old baggage, and yet she was carrying some of her own.


I think Kate has a motive...but I recall Olivia 'doing the good will of society' when she was knocking her ghetto azz around P.C. like she owned the place.

I wasn't listening to her any more than I was listening with intent to Kate...until Kate made mention of dual to death with Sonny and Dante. Then I started to listen. And loved hearing Guza's mouth speaking as Olivia--"that's why I stuck around P.C. So long"

Guza please! Olivia was around for the count when she came on set...that Dante/FBI thing was a backpedal. A good dynamic...but we all know that this isn't going to go down sweet.

Dante IMHO is coming to the PCPD. And GH will attempt to do to the mob what they tried to do with Taggert/Cruz.

I think Lucky is secretly going to the FBI. JMHO.


LOL, luv this post, I guess its the disdain I have for Olivia. But I am at a loss for what Kate is doing she probably needs some attention right now or maybe she had an epiphany, who knows.


I like Olivia, and I would have done the same thing she did had I been stupid enough to do the deed with the self-proclaimed Center of the Universe. But then I also like Kate, so that makes it hard to be so irritiated at her about this whole thing. Here's a woman who lied about her ENTIRE LIFE for 20 years suddenly acting like the flag bearer for honesty? Doesn't jive. If she did have an epiphany, they're doing a poor job of communicating it, IMO.

I really wish Coleman would make her forget all about it.

#15   2009/10/27 04:03AM
Re: What's Kate's real motive?
onlygh
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A. Olivia made the exactly right decision in keeping Dante from Sonny. The wisdom of that decision can be seen by taking a quick peek at how at-sea Kristina and Michael are. Morgan looks like he's on a good course but that's likely because Jax has been there for him. Then take a look at the kind of man Dante is...a stand-up guy with a moral compass, full of love and fun. I'm willing to bet that if Sonny had been involved in his upbringing, he would not have turned out so well.

B. However, the time has come for Olivia to tell all. I think Kate's a little full-of-herself with all her self-righteous, do-the-right thing talk but she has a point. Olivia has the mistaken notion that she'll have time to right things should a crisis point be reached. As Kate noted, there is no window of opportunity to fix things in Sonny's world and the crisis point has already been reached. In all likelihood, if Olivia doesn't spit it out soon, Dante won't know what hit him.

C. I suspect Kate's motive is not purely selfish. I think she's probably somewhat lonely and adrift since her break-up with Sonny and perhaps wants to connect on some level with her Bensonhurst family. I think she's going about it the wrong way but she clearly is looking for some type of closure in her life. You usually see this type of behavior being manifested by characters when they're on the way out the door...so I am wondering about Kate's status on the show.

D. Of course it's a soap and we're going to be bashed over the head about the reveal until it occurs. Based on the increasing frequency of the conflict scenes we're getting, I'm thinking the reveal must be just around the corner. I cannot wait to see how everything turns out! It's quite wonderfully soapy.

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