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Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???

Started by AlyasMom at 2009/10/19 01:40PM
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#1   2009/10/19 01:40PM
Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
AlyasMom
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Okay so, for years I was a secret Liaison fan, Im talking about ever since Carly slept with Sonny(yuck!!) and broke Jason's heart! He was shot and Liz found him in the snow.
I lovvvvved their friendship and chemistry. Jason was so captivated by her, even though it was clear she was still grieving for Lucky, they were 'friends' first and foremost.

Then they had that imposter return as Lucky, and there went anything happening between them. Thus began the historic push/pull we now as 'LIAISON', I still held out hope, secretly

So Jason returns, and just when I think "AT last, god golly miss molly, at last they are coming together"
the writers break them up (before anything really even got started!!!) He gets with corny Courtney then Sam and she gets with Ric then comfort zone Lucky...womp womp
womp...~)

Fast forward to the end of 05' to early 06'
POW!!! We get a glimmer of hope, a reckoning that was a long time coming!!! Jason and Liz, but with the NEW HOPE came the long tedious road of, far away, longing glances, the what-ifs, the marrying someone else(Lucky)when I really wanna be with you and the infamous "Your life/My life is to dangerous for the boys' speeches...blah blah blah. FOR 3 YEARS THE WRITERS MADE ME SIT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO MOVE PAST THAT CRAP!!! And for what, how was I rewarded for ending my boycotting the show and returning a faithful viewer, along the way discovering new characters to like...? I tell you how! They have Jake get kidnapped.. again, and have that be their final epiphany, "Your life really is too dangerous"
For three...long...@$$ years man! And here we go again.
Liz, and the forbidden love, her...boyfriend/ex-husband/fiancee's brother, Nicolas! Really?
I cant...I cant go down this road again. You mean to tell me with all the fresh meat Gh has on canvas they couldnt have paired her up with anybody else?Anybody?
I am sooo tired of them writing her as this sad, single mother, pitiful thing that goes back to Lucky, only to start wanting some one else.
Who's next on the list...Spinelli?
Yeah, thats going to bring the viewers in
NOT!!!

#2   2009/10/19 01:51PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
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Hi Alyas!

I have to agree with you. Can they give this girl a storyline that hasn't been recycled TO DEATH? To me, this story is just re-written with a different name. The story with Ric was her only original storyline and that was my least favourite pairing of hers.

It goes to show that Liz REALLY DOESN'T love Lucky so why keep trying to make them a couple? He is safe for her but Liz has never been into "safe" men, otherwise she wouldn't keep running back to Lucky when other relationships don't work, only to realize she really doesn't love Lucky.

MOVE ON!!!!!!! Give this girl a good story that has NOTHING TO DO with Lucky being a possibility!

#3   2009/10/19 02:10PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
AlyasMom
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Quote genhospchat: Hi Alyas!

I have to agree with you. Can they give this girl a storyline that hasn't been recycled TO DEATH? To me, this story is just re-written with a different name. The story with Ric was her only original storyline and that was my least favourite pairing of hers.

It goes to show that Liz REALLY DOESN'T love Lucky so why keep trying to make them a couple? He is safe for her but Liz has never been into "safe" men, otherwise she wouldn't keep running back to Lucky when other relationships don't work, only to realize she really doesn't love Lucky.

MOVE ON!!!!!!! Give this girl a good story that has NOTHING TO DO with Lucky being a possibility!


My sentiments exactly. I just wrote in another post that the reason why 'Lucky' is always a possibility is because is because the writers like to think they are capable of re-creating old magic. That is not the cast with all the Luckys they brought on. They are beating a dead horse! They think by bringing JJ back its going to breathe some life in that relationship. I just dont see how, after everything they have done to each other. Even though JJ is an amazing actor, he isnt Hoodini!

#4   2009/10/19 02:29PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
genhospchat
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Quote AlyasMom:
Quote genhospchat: Hi Alyas!

I have to agree with you. Can they give this girl a storyline that hasn't been recycled TO DEATH? To me, this story is just re-written with a different name. The story with Ric was her only original storyline and that was my least favourite pairing of hers.

It goes to show that Liz REALLY DOESN'T love Lucky so why keep trying to make them a couple? He is safe for her but Liz has never been into "safe" men, otherwise she wouldn't keep running back to Lucky when other relationships don't work, only to realize she really doesn't love Lucky.

MOVE ON!!!!!!! Give this girl a good story that has NOTHING TO DO with Lucky being a possibility!


My sentiments exactly. I just wrote in another post that the reason why 'Lucky' is always a possibility is because is because the writers like to think they are capable of re-creating old magic. That is not the cast with all the Luckys they brought on. They are beating a dead horse! They think by bringing JJ back its going to breathe some life in that relationship. I just dont see how, after everything they have done to each other. Even though JJ is an amazing actor, he isnt Hoodini!


I am looking forward to Lucky fixing the relationship with LUKE, not Liz when JJ comes back! TG and JJ have such a chemistry that I don't even care if BH and JJ have ANY scenes together (ok at least ONE), as long as I get lots of TG and JJ!

As for the writers creating old magic, it's as if they think that they just write some things that were part of the relationship before, that it will just happen again. What they DON'T realize is all the horrendous stuff they did in between and the fact that sometimes you CAN'T go back. They have done this numerous times with past "supercouples": LL2, Jasam, CarSon and NotNEm, though I'm sure there's more.

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#5   2009/10/19 07:32PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
AlyasMom
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Quote genhospchat:
Quote AlyasMom:
Quote genhospchat: Hi Alyas!

I have to agree with you. Can they give this girl a storyline that hasn't been recycled TO DEATH? To me, this story is just re-written with a different name. The story with Ric was her only original storyline and that was my least favourite pairing of hers.

It goes to show that Liz REALLY DOESN'T love Lucky so why keep trying to make them a couple? He is safe for her but Liz has never been into "safe" men, otherwise she wouldn't keep running back to Lucky when other relationships don't work, only to realize she really doesn't love Lucky.

MOVE ON!!!!!!! Give this girl a good story that has NOTHING TO DO with Lucky being a possibility!


My sentiments exactly. I just wrote in another post that the reason why 'Lucky' is always a possibility is because is because the writers like to think they are capable of re-creating old magic. That is not the cast with all the Luckys they brought on. They are beating a dead horse! They think by bringing JJ back its going to breathe some life in that relationship. I just dont see how, after everything they have done to each other. Even though JJ is an amazing actor, he isnt Hoodini!


I am looking forward to Lucky fixing the relationship with LUKE, not Liz when JJ comes back! TG and JJ have such a chemistry that I don't even care if BH and JJ have ANY scenes together (ok at least ONE), as long as I get lots of TG and JJ!

As for the writers creating old magic, it's as if they think that they just write some things that were part of the relationship before, that it will just happen again. What they DON'T realize is all the horrendous stuff they did in between and the fact that sometimes you CAN'T go back. They have done this numerous times with past "supercouples": LL2, Jasam, CarSon and NotNEm, though I'm sure there's more.


I dont know what dead horse was beat more, LL2 or CarSon, funny how the couples were both changed like 2-3 times and they thought the magic would still be there.
To me, with CarSon it wasnt there from the get go, but definately with BH and JJ. I just find Nik and Liz totally disgusting, and now Em is suppose to come back, so whats that going to do with Liz and Em's relationship.
So stupid!

#6   2009/10/19 07:42PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
liz-fan
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I persnally lke Niz but you are right the story is remove Jason's name insert Nicholas.

Maybe they are out of their alotment of paper for the decade and are haing to reuse the scrpits... Or it could be a save the enviroment thing?

#7   2009/10/19 07:50PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
AlyasMom
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Quote liz-fan: I persnally lke Niz but you are right the story is remove Jason's name insert Nicholas.

Maybe they are out of their alotment of paper for the decade and are haing to reuse the scrpits... Or it could be a save the enviroment thing?


Can the have a 'save me from this mess' thing instead?
I can not stomach this! I am glad that someone is finding happiness with these story lines, we all can be miserable . Someone deserves some love in the afternoon
Even Jasam fans even Jolivia fans

But where does that leave me? HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO SUFFER !!!! Wahhhhhhhh!!!!

#8   2009/10/19 07:52PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
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Quote liz-fan: I persnally lke Niz but you are right the story is remove Jason's name insert Nicholas.

Maybe they are out of their alotment of paper for the decade and are haing to reuse the scrpits... Or it could be a save the enviroment thing?


liz-fan, your post totally cracked me up!

Yes, I see what you guys are saying. Hadn't thought of that.

I was thinking the deja vu was from Nikolas and Emily when she was still with Xander and falling for Nik tho' I guess we don't have the sickness part going.

Honestly, I was really hoping they would come up with someone new, fresh, and exciting for Elizabeth. Too bad James Franco didn't fit into that...no matter how brief!

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#9   2009/10/19 07:54PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
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Quote AlyasMom: Can the have a 'save me from this mess' thing instead?

I can not stomach this! I am glad that someone is finding happiness with these story lines, we all can be miserable . Someone deserves some love in the afternoon
Even Jasam fans even Jolivia fans

But where does that leave me? HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO SUFFER !!!! Wahhhhhhhh!!!!



I can't understand how they can write her going toe-to-toe with Helena, but a wishy-washy mess with Lucky.

I feel your pain!

#10   2009/10/19 08:23PM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
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Quote AlyasMom:
Quote liz-fan: I persnally lke Niz but you are right the story is remove Jason's name insert Nicholas.

Maybe they are out of their alotment of paper for the decade and are haing to reuse the scrpits... Or it could be a save the enviroment thing?


Can the have a 'save me from this mess' thing instead?
I can not stomach this! I am glad that someone is finding happiness with these story lines, we all can be miserable . Someone deserves some love in the afternoon
Even Jasam fans even Jolivia fans

But where does that leave me? HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO SUFFER !!!! Wahhhhhhhh!!!!



I think you read way too much into my post... I like maye even love the Niz scenes but I'm a Liason fan first and that has not changed!!!

Don't get me wrong I loved JJ's Lucky and love GV but thought tptb wasted his talent on bad script writing...
Still I think LL2 has been run into the ground...
I ready to get the stake and holy water out this time maybe then it will stay down...

LL2 back in the 90's was possible the best teen love story on soaps ever but that is what it was a teen love story and they are all grown up now...

Niz is hot sexy and in my opinion not at all about love... It's about needs and filling them when everything else is gone.

Liason...Well I'm a diehard so that's says it all!

However, LL2 1 milion and 1 I think I'll skip...

So to say these story line are bring me happiness would be a hugh over estimation.

Happiness would be: GV/Kelly Lusam, BH/SB Liason, Nic/Claudia, Lulu/Johnny, Olivia/Sonny, Carly/New person, Alexis/Jax, BFF Olivia and Liz... Emily in the light and Rebecca on her way..

#11   2009/10/20 10:45AM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
hugezendallfan
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Quote AlyasMom: Okay so, for years I was a secret Liaison fan, Im talking about ever since Carly slept with Sonny(yuck!!) and broke Jason's heart! He was shot and Liz found him in the snow.
I lovvvvved their friendship and chemistry. Jason was so captivated by her, even though it was clear she was still grieving for Lucky, they were 'friends' first and foremost.

Then they had that imposter return as Lucky, and there went anything happening between them. Thus began the historic push/pull we now as 'LIAISON', I still held out hope, secretly

So Jason returns, and just when I think "AT last, god golly miss molly, at last they are coming together"
the writers break them up (before anything really even got started!!!) He gets with corny Courtney then Sam and she gets with Ric then comfort zone Lucky...womp womp
womp...~)

Fast forward to the end of 05' to early 06'
POW!!! We get a glimmer of hope, a reckoning that was a long time coming!!! Jason and Liz, but with the NEW HOPE came the long tedious road of, far away, longing glances, the what-ifs, the marrying someone else(Lucky)when I really wanna be with you and the infamous "Your life/My life is to dangerous for the boys' speeches...blah blah blah. FOR 3 YEARS THE WRITERS MADE ME SIT AND WAIT FOR THEM TO MOVE PAST THAT CRAP!!! And for what, how was I rewarded for ending my boycotting the show and returning a faithful viewer, along the way discovering new characters to like...? I tell you how! They have Jake get kidnapped.. again, and have that be their final epiphany, "Your life really is too dangerous"
For three...long...@$$ years man! And here we go again.
Liz, and the forbidden love, her...boyfriend/ex-husband/fiancee's brother, Nicolas! Really?
I cant...I cant go down this road again. You mean to tell me with all the fresh meat Gh has on canvas they couldnt have paired her up with anybody else?Anybody?
I am sooo tired of them writing her as this sad, single mother, pitiful thing that goes back to Lucky, only to start wanting some one else.
Who's next on the list...Spinelli?
Yeah, thats going to bring the viewers in
NOT!!!


I have to say that I have never thought of it that way, but now that you mention it I do see the similarities. Maybe that is why I like NIZ??? When I first opened this thread I thought it was going to be referring to the "Art Studio" scenes (it seemed like that was always where Liason meet up). Anyway I have to say that I am a big NIZ fan (Don't shoot me-I know I am in the vast minority here), I like them together. I was a big Liason fan but I honestly got tired of being teased with that couple so I have moved on; I never liked LNL2 and I am tired of them trying and trying to pair Liz and lucky together (leave them as friends, let Lucky continue to be the "father figure" for Liz's children and leave it at that!!) I have always liked Liz and I always liked Nik (although I never really got to invested in any of his pairings), so I am finally excited about another couple on GH, it has been a long time since I have invested in a couple and I know I probably shouldn't get invested in NIZ but hey I can't help myself.

#12   2009/10/20 10:54AM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
meowbowow
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Quote AlyasMom

My sentiments exactly. I just wrote in another post that the reason why 'Lucky' is always a possibility is because is because the writers like to think they are capable of re-creating old magic. That is not the cast with all the Luckys they brought on. They are beating a dead horse! They think by bringing JJ back its going to breathe some life in that relationship. I just dont see how, after everything they have done to each other. Even though JJ is an amazing actor, he isnt Hoodini!


How many times have they tried to create the LL2 old magic? Face it GH, they were teens then and DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CHEMISTRY!! Not to mention BH/GV don't have the same chem as w/JJ and I mean no disrespect to GV but it's true. IA as well that way too much water has gone under that bridge. They've sailed and sunk!!

#13   2009/10/20 10:54AM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
genhospchat
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I don't care if Liz gets with Jason (would I love it yes but if it didn't happen, that's ok too) but I just want her AWAY from Lucky as a romantic pairing. I will never get behind Niz (he just creeps me out, the character not the actor but kudos to those of you that like the pairing) and LL2000.......rinse, repeat, recycle!

I am wondering if Lucky really loves Liz even because when they are together, he ALSO does things that mess it up. Perhaps he is the same, he feels Liz is "safe." Either way, end this atrocity! They were SO happy as friends. They will OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS care about each other and will be there for the boys but the love just isn't there, so they need to stop throwing different men in there to PROVE Liz doesn't love him. Liz needs to just tell him she doesn't and be done with it and she doesn't need another man to do that!

#14   2009/10/20 10:59AM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
meowbowow
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Quote genhospchat

I am looking forward to Lucky fixing the relationship with LUKE, not Liz when JJ comes back! TG and JJ have such a chemistry that I don't even care if BH and JJ have ANY scenes together (ok at least ONE), as long as I get lots of TG and JJ!

As for the writers creating old magic, it's as if they think that they just write some things that were part of the relationship before, that it will just happen again. What they DON'T realize is all the horrendous stuff they did in between and the fact that sometimes you CAN'T go back. They have done this numerous times with past "supercouples": LL2, Jasam, CarSon and NotNEm, though I'm sure there's more.


IMO this is one of those situations in which a couple cannot go back b/c it's too late!! The upcoming stuff w/TG and JJ will be awesome to watch play out. I wonder if TG/JJ will still have the same chem w/the adult JJ and them being apart for so long. I would have loved to see their reunion when JJ started taping and would also like to hear how JJ is enjoying being back on GH for awhile!!

#15   2009/10/20 11:01AM
Re: Okay...Is it just me or is anyone besides ME feeling a sense of deja vu with this Niz thing???
meowbowow
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Quote AlyasMom

I dont know what dead horse was beat more, LL2 or CarSon, funny how the couples were both changed like 2-3 times and they thought the magic would still be there.
To me, with CarSon it wasnt there from the get go, but definately with BH and JJ. I just find Nik and Liz totally disgusting, and now Em is suppose to come back, so whats that going to do with Liz and Em's relationship.
So stupid!


Good point and I think it's a tie, lol. Did they change actors to try yet again to recapture their magic or what? Niz is so totally disgusting I can't even watch!!

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