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You remind me so much of Laura

Started by jilltidwell at 2009/10/18 06:32PM
Latest post: 2009/10/20 10:58PM, Views: 362, Replies: 14
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#1   2009/10/18 06:32PM
You remind me so much of Laura
jilltidwell
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Who does Helena think she is comparing Liz to Laura? I know everything that happened with Stefan and Stavos, but you can't compare Laura and Liz by any means. Liz is nothing like Laura in any way like that.

#2   2009/10/18 06:36PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
ghlover2009
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i agree there nothing alike

#3   2009/10/18 07:51PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
jilltidwell
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Quote ghlover2009: i agree there nothing alike


I don't understand how/why she thinks they are alike. Laura was being held captive by her family. Does Helena think that Laura wanted to be held captive by that crazy family and be away from her true love? Helena is the one who is crazy. I would love to see Laura come back and kick Helena's butt for everything that she has put her though.

#4   2009/10/18 08:12PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
hootaboi
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Quote jilltidwell:
Quote ghlover2009: i agree there nothing alike


I don't understand how/why she thinks they are alike. Laura was being held captive by her family. Does Helena think that Laura wanted to be held captive by that crazy family and be away from her true love? Helena is the one who is crazy. I would love to see Laura come back and kick Helena's butt for everything that she has put her though.


I think it would be awesome if Laura came back and did something to Helena to make her be in wheelchair, then Helena could recover and fake her illness to get sympathy from Nicholas

#5   2009/10/18 08:20PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
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No Liz is nothing like Laura and neither is the situation... But you have to look at who said it and why....
She wants to believe that Stavos was suduced by Laura and Nicholas was suduce by Liz... That they are somehow innocent of all guilt... Yet we know this isn't true with either case... Helena is a lunatic... What would suprise anyone about what she said?

#6   2009/10/18 10:17PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
Wishing4Liason
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Quote liz-fan: No Liz is nothing like Laura and neither is the situation... But you have to look at who said it and why....
She wants to believe that Stavos was suduced by Laura and Nicholas was suduce by Liz... That they are somehow innocent of all guilt... Yet we know this isn't true with either case... Helena is a lunatic... What would suprise anyone about what she said?


Liz~fan.....you bring up an excellent point about just how Helena interpreted the situations...Another similarity between the two women is that people around Laura and Elizabeth put that "halo" upon them...Yet Laura and Elizabeth BOTH were/are ones that will be the first to point out their own faults!!

Yet they are also women that others just seem to be drawn to and like and those that didn't neither woman would be afraid to come out swinging if given the RIGHT set of circumstances!! They often put others needs above their own and would forgive when people would do something against them...Yet these personality traits are threatening to some...Helena is just the opposite of BOTH women...She manipulates and convives as easily as she breathes!!

So it didn't surprise me when Helena made the comment, in fact it was a welcomed remark, because it is good ol' fashion Helena...Yet she is mouthing off to a woman that isn't afraid to take her on either!!

#7   2009/10/19 01:40AM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
really241
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I believe the reason why she compared the two is because yes the situations were different but one thing is the exact same. They both pitted two brothers against each other Laura pitted two brothers against each other involuntarily because she was being held captive, but Liz is doing the same thing. The difference is that Liz is doing it voluntarily because she slept with Nik on purpose of her own free will she was not held prisoner...Laura was a captive not a willing participant.

#8   2009/10/19 02:55PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
jilltidwell
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Quote really241: I believe the reason why she compared the two is because yes the situations were different but one thing is the exact same. They both pitted two brothers against each other Laura pitted two brothers against each other involuntarily because she was being held captive, but Liz is doing the same thing. The difference is that Liz is doing it voluntarily because she slept with Nik on purpose of her own free will she was not held prisoner...Laura was a captive not a willing participant.


That is why I say that they are nothing alike. Like you said, Liz is doing it because she wants to. Laura didn't have a choice. Do you think she would have voluntary stay away from Luke if given the chance? I think not.

#9   2009/10/19 03:01PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
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Quote Wishing4Liason:

Liz~fan.....you bring up an excellent point about just how Helena interpreted the situations...Another similarity between the two women is that people around Laura and Elizabeth put that "halo" upon them...Yet Laura and Elizabeth BOTH were/are ones that will be the first to point out their own faults!!

Yet they are also women that others just seem to be drawn to and like and those that didn't neither woman would be afraid to come out swinging if given the RIGHT set of circumstances!! They often put others needs above their own and would forgive when people would do something against them...Yet these personality traits are threatening to some...Helena is just the opposite of BOTH women...She manipulates and convives as easily as she breathes!!

So it didn't surprise me when Helena made the comment, in fact it was a welcomed remark, because it is good ol' fashion Helena...Yet she is mouthing off to a woman that isn't afraid to take her on either!!


I disregarded the part of Helena's comment when it came to the Cassadine brother's portion-Helena's always been twisted. However, I've always loved Liz because of how much she reminded me of Laura over the years. If Helena is nuts for thinking there are similarities, than I have to admit I must be too! LOL

#10   2009/10/19 03:06PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
jilltidwell
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I do think there are ways they they are alike, but I think way Helena meant was in a twisted sort of way.

#11   2009/10/19 07:13PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
Legacy268
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Laura turned to Stefan and they later renewed their affair to Lukes dismay.

Laura and Liz are women that are seen as "good" "angelic" family women that have a thing for "bad boys"

I would say what is not similar is that Liz wont own her stuff, she is whiney and would like to pretend she fell into her illicit situations and she will lie to protect her image. That is a character flaw. Somehow though there is always a noble reason.. hummmm
Laura's flaw for a long time was that she would have liked to change the man but would end up changing herself to be wih the man she loves.

#12   2009/10/19 07:31PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
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Yes Liz slept with Nicholas of her own free will and agree to marry Lucky. Her failure was agreeing to remarry Lucky. I do think she loves him? Yes. However, she is not in love with him... Still she doesn't want to hurt him... However people have short term memories here... Lucky did the same thing to her with Saraha... Yet noone wants to except that Lucky is not a saint. No Liz isn't a saint either but it's was never her that put that halo up there... She has never said she was perfect only that she is living her life..

As for Liz owning her stuff I think today when she openly said, "Lucky doesn't deserve what I'm doing to him." negates that statement but that's another point altogether...

Last Laura never had to pit Stavos and Stephon against eaach other Helena had done that years before... Doesn't anyone remeber the discussions between Stephon and Alexis about how she and Stavor treated the two of them?

#13   2009/10/20 02:16AM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
SparkApCider
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Quote liz-fan: No Liz is nothing like Laura and neither is the situation... But you have to look at who said it and why....
She wants to believe that Stavos was suduced by Laura and Nicholas was suduce by Liz... That they are somehow innocent of all guilt... Yet we know this isn't true with either case... Helena is a lunatic... What would suprise anyone about what she said?



This statement by Helena was definitely one of those 'consider the source' statements. Overall I never liked Laura or Liz really until the Spencers came into their lives. I didn't hate them, but the Spencer dynamic gave them some interest. Which is why I could never get why the writers unwrote Lucky, made him a dumb cluck (good luck JJ, I hope they give you something to redeem the character), and gave Luke no legacy on the canvas, considering how great the stories were of the Spencer/Cassidine dynamic.

#14   2009/10/20 02:30AM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
really241
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Quote jilltidwell:
Quote really241: I believe the reason why she compared the two is because yes the situations were different but one thing is the exact same. They both pitted two brothers against each other Laura pitted two brothers against each other involuntarily because she was being held captive, but Liz is doing the same thing. The difference is that Liz is doing it voluntarily because she slept with Nik on purpose of her own free will she was not held prisoner...Laura was a captive not a willing participant.


That is why I say that they are nothing alike. Like you said, Liz is doing it because she wants to. Laura didn't have a choice. Do you think she would have voluntary stay away from Luke if given the chance? I think not.



no she wouldnt have stayed away from him given the choice but they are alike in the fact that two brothers are pitted against each other over her the same as it was over laura....yes the circumstances are drastically different but the equation is the same....

#15   2009/10/20 10:58PM
Re: You remind me so much of Laura
JazzJade
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ok look at who you are talking about....it is helena cassadine she will say anything to pizz someone off it doesn't have to be true it just has to get under their skin!!!! she is EVIL but thats the best thing about her!

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