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I am new to the board as far as posting goes but I have been what many of you call a lurker for atleast six months now. I will apologize in advance because this is going to be a very lenghty post becasue I have just gotten up the courage to say what I am going to say and I have alot on my mind. |
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Quote cocopuffs: I am new to the board as far as posting goes but I have been what many of you call a lurker for atleast six months now. I will apologize in advance because this is going to be a very lenghty post becasue I have just gotten up the courage to say what I am going to say and I have alot on my mind. The character of liz has always held a special place in my heart. When she was first introduced on the canvas I loved her! she was a bad a55 who was not appreciated and was only looking for the love that she never recieved because the rest of her family was to busy worshipping her sister and her brother. I symphathized with her and immediatly began to love the character of Liz. I loved how she was such a spitfire and was scared of nothing and no one. The rape storyline was so well done by RH that it was crazy! RH knocked that out of the park and this is where I felt that they began to have liz transformed into a multi layered character other than the spitfire starved for love teenager/young adult. They developed her relationship with Lucky and that was just an absolute joy to watch as well. Liz has been developed so well and was always a joy for me to watch. However I guess all good things must come to an end becasue as of this moment I am not enjoying Liz at all! She is behaving like she a horny adolescent school girl and honestly this is not the only time that she has behaved like this (and by this I mean not thinking at all!) I also believe that she behaved in this same manner when her and Jason were together, and then not together.I did not like her or Jason together at all! It made no sense and all of that back and forth with him being to dangerous to be around the boys but then sneaking around to meet him and have sex was ridiculous and it made her look confused and loose! She was not showing any follow through at all! you cant tell someone that you cant be around them but then have a rendevous with them the following day. I am sorry that showed no common sense on her part. I dont understand why she is going to marry lucky but she wants to keep nik (who just happens to be his brother) on a short leash, and I am sorry but I am not buying into the line that she is doing this because lucky wants to, or that he bullied her (he did not twist her arm into accepting, nor was there an ultimatum that she had to marry him or else). I am sorry lucky is a grown man and would and should be able to handle being rejected. It killed me that she had the audacity to get upset with nik because he was going to continue his relationship with rebecca. Was she really serious?! that is not the liz that I think all of her fans (including me) fell in love with. She is behaving poorly and I am not going to sit here and join the club and make excuses for her or say that since lucky slept with sarah it is okay for her to sleep with nik or the excuse that she was not technically with lucky when she slept with nick. What does that matter?! Wrong is Wrong and if you are a true fan you should be able to point out your favorite characters downfalls, and right now Liz is on a spiralling downfall and all I see are people making excuses for her. I am sorry but I cant do that. This liz is NOT the liz that I enjoyed watching on my screen. first- are you cookoo for cocoa puffs!!?? lol. it's funny that you bring up the liz character, because a me and a group of my friends were just talking about her. many of them never liked her, but i LOVED her, especially when she came on. she was a multilayered character (as you said), and she rocked all of her storylines... especially the rape and JJ's lucky's death. my heart broke for her! even from the beginning, this character was trying to figure out where she belonged, and the truth is...once lucky was gone...she was lost again. i think that jason helped her find herself, though. alas, i never enjoyed that pairing. i feel that, although jason helped liz find herself, he helped turn her character into a one dimensional bore. jmo. even her supposed soapy storyline now with nik and lucky has me yawning. i deeply feel for lucky, and i am tired of watching elizabeth run around in circles as if she is chasing her own tail. she keeps saying she is trying to do right by her boys... but hurting the only father they have ever known is not doing right by any means. he doesn't know what happened between her and nik, but we all know that it won't stay that way. i feel for lucky's boys and for lucky. but i don't really feel much for liz. lately, i just feel like her character is being shoved down my throat, and they are just throwing her into storylines... like when they threw her into the whole patrick/robin saga. i honestly have tried to like her character, and i go through moments of enjoying her....but i don't know. she just doesn't do it for me. i am, however, looking forward to seeing JJ back on my screen. maybe he will bring liz back to that multilayer character i once loved...let's face it...the girl needs all the help she can get. |
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Katie I will answer yout his way as to not take up so much space with what was already a long enough post by me. |
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Quote cocopuffs: Katie I will answer yout his way as to not take up so much space with what was already a long enough post by me. I am not sure if bringing back JJ is going to be enough to bring her back to what she once was. All of this lying and deceitfulness this is not what she used to be about. Now she is lying to lucky everyday, but not only to lucky but to her children. I mean I did not mention it before because my post was long enough but she cant possibly tell either one of her children that they were conceieved out of love because that is not the case. She was not in love with either of their fathers when she slept with them not Zander and not Jason (I know some of you may take an issue with that but I have to call it like I see it) She climbed the stairs in the dark to go and do what...play cards? no to go and sleep with him because she was hurt (and rightfully hurt by the actions of her husband I might add) but it still does not make what she did right. I know that by reading this you may think I dont love her, but that is far from the truth, I just have to speak on things the way that I see them. I love Liz just not what they are trying to shove down our screens because at the rate we are going she is going to have baby number three by her fiances brother and that will just be a wonderful thing to watch and yes to answer your questions I am quite koo koo for coco puffs! LOL. okay, well...i get what you are saying. i too, do not feel like either of her boys were conceived in love, but still...that doesn't matter much to me, because she loves those boys. unfortunately... she is doing wrong by them right now... even though she thinks she is trying to do right by them. lol..if that makes sense to you. i miss the teenage liz. i really do. she was soo great. i even liked her after that as well. when her and lucky worked things out and were happy for all of...what two seconds!?? i don't know if JJ will help, but it will help me. because, honestly, what could possibly be bad about getting to see that man on my screen? um...nothing! lol who knows, maybe, one day, liz will be interesting to watch again. but trust me... i'm not counting on it. maybe helena will spice things up?? |
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I totally agree with you guys. Liz has been quite disappointing for some time now. I miss the old Liz. She just hasn't been the same since the orignal Lucky (JJ) left. I really hope that his return will bring back the Liz all knew and loved. |
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Quote mrsslr: I totally agree with you guys. Liz has been quite disappointing for some time now. I miss the old Liz. She just hasn't been the same since the orignal Lucky (JJ) left. I really hope that his return will bring back the Liz all knew and loved. me too! |
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How nice to have a thread that talks about the same way I feel! I too love the character Liz; always have! But I agree that she is NOT acting like the Liz she used to be and I DO fault the writers. To have her make some of the choices she has made is, IMO, completely out of her character. Especially the one where she was "in love" with Jason. I totally understand why she went to Jason that night, but the direction it went after that didn't seem like something she would do. Both her and Jason were in shock and dismay by what they had seen their partners doing, but how it ended up as a love affair, I never did understand. Lucky was/is the love of her life and to act like he is just her friend now is upsetting to me. If adding JJ to the cast helps put things right for the two of them, I am all for it! And thanks to the two of you for sharing your views! |
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Quote mmartinbell: How nice to have a thread that talks about the same way I feel! I too love the character Liz; always have! But I agree that she is NOT acting like the Liz she used to be and I DO fault the writers. To have her make some of the choices she has made is, IMO, completely out of her character. Especially the one where she was "in love" with Jason. I totally understand why she went to Jason that night, but the direction it went after that didn't seem like something she would do. Both her and Jason were in shock and dismay by what they had seen their partners doing, but how it ended up as a love affair, I never did understand. Lucky was/is the love of her life and to act like he is just her friend now is upsetting to me. If adding JJ to the cast helps put things right for the two of them, I am all for it! And thanks to the two of you for sharing your views! see while i agree with most of what you have said, i do not think that liz is out of character with her choices. she has always...from when she first came to port chuck, been trying to figure out who she is and who she should be with. i think liz knows who she is now, but she is still trying to figure out who she belongs with. she has flip flopped all over the place. lucky, jason, zander, jason, lucky, ric, lucky, nik.....she really just doesn't have a clue. she's, for the most part, a good mom, but she does continue to make poor choices. |
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Quote katie28: Quote mmartinbell: How nice to have a thread that talks about the same way I feel! I too love the character Liz; always have! But I agree that she is NOT acting like the Liz she used to be and I DO fault the writers. To have her make some of the choices she has made is, IMO, completely out of her character. Especially the one where she was "in love" with Jason. I totally understand why she went to Jason that night, but the direction it went after that didn't seem like something she would do. Both her and Jason were in shock and dismay by what they had seen their partners doing, but how it ended up as a love affair, I never did understand. Lucky was/is the love of her life and to act like he is just her friend now is upsetting to me. If adding JJ to the cast helps put things right for the two of them, I am all for it! And thanks to the two of you for sharing your views! see while i agree with most of what you have said, i do not think that liz is out of character with her choices. she has always...from when she first came to port chuck, been trying to figure out who she is and who she should be with. i think liz knows who she is now, but she is still trying to figure out who she belongs with. she has flip flopped all over the place. lucky, jason, zander, jason, lucky, ric, lucky, nik.....she really just doesn't have a clue. she's, for the most part, a good mom, but she does continue to make poor choices. see I have to disagree with you because I think that she has been written out of character for the longest! this bedhopping liz is not the liz that she was turning into after the rape and even after she and lucky broke up. I hate that they are making it seem like this is in character for her when it is not. She is a smart morale person (atleast characterized that way on the show) and where is it smart or morale to sleep with your finaces/ex-husbands brother? |
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Quote katie28: Quote mmartinbell: How nice to have a thread that talks about the same way I feel! I too love the character Liz; always have! But I agree that she is NOT acting like the Liz she used to be and I DO fault the writers. To have her make some of the choices she has made is, IMO, completely out of her character. Especially the one where she was "in love" with Jason. I totally understand why she went to Jason that night, but the direction it went after that didn't seem like something she would do. Both her and Jason were in shock and dismay by what they had seen their partners doing, but how it ended up as a love affair, I never did understand. Lucky was/is the love of her life and to act like he is just her friend now is upsetting to me. If adding JJ to the cast helps put things right for the two of them, I am all for it! And thanks to the two of you for sharing your views! see while i agree with most of what you have said, i do not think that liz is out of character with her choices. she has always...from when she first came to port chuck, been trying to figure out who she is and who she should be with. i think liz knows who she is now, but she is still trying to figure out who she belongs with. she has flip flopped all over the place. lucky, jason, zander, jason, lucky, ric, lucky, nik.....she really just doesn't have a clue. she's, for the most part, a good mom, but she does continue to make poor choices. You are right and I like the way you put it. Good mom/poor choices. How many of us in real life can say the same thing about our OWN choices!! I know I would be on thatlist! |
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Quote cocopuffs: Quote katie28: Quote mmartinbell: How nice to have a thread that talks about the same way I feel! I too love the character Liz; always have! But I agree that she is NOT acting like the Liz she used to be and I DO fault the writers. To have her make some of the choices she has made is, IMO, completely out of her character. Especially the one where she was "in love" with Jason. I totally understand why she went to Jason that night, but the direction it went after that didn't seem like something she would do. Both her and Jason were in shock and dismay by what they had seen their partners doing, but how it ended up as a love affair, I never did understand. Lucky was/is the love of her life and to act like he is just her friend now is upsetting to me. If adding JJ to the cast helps put things right for the two of them, I am all for it! And thanks to the two of you for sharing your views! see while i agree with most of what you have said, i do not think that liz is out of character with her choices. she has always...from when she first came to port chuck, been trying to figure out who she is and who she should be with. i think liz knows who she is now, but she is still trying to figure out who she belongs with. she has flip flopped all over the place. lucky, jason, zander, jason, lucky, ric, lucky, nik.....she really just doesn't have a clue. she's, for the most part, a good mom, but she does continue to make poor choices. see I have to disagree with you because I think that she has been written out of character for the longest! this bedhopping liz is not the liz that she was turning into after the rape and even after she and lucky broke up. I hate that they are making it seem like this is in character for her when it is not. She is a smart morale person (atleast characterized that way on the show) and where is it smart or morale to sleep with your finaces/ex-husbands brother? lol. well, you think more highly of the character than i do! |
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Quote cincyghfan: God created the earth..... Welcome to the board. I cant comment on the Liz character because I really dont like her. But there are many on the this board that really love the character. Happy Posting. I'm with you |
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Quote CrazyBiotch: Quote katie28: Quote cocopuffs: Katie I will answer yout his way as to not take up so much space with what was already a long enough post by me. I am not sure if bringing back JJ is going to be enough to bring her back to what she once was. All of this lying and deceitfulness this is not what she used to be about. Now she is lying to lucky everyday, but not only to lucky but to her children. I mean I did not mention it before because my post was long enough but she cant possibly tell either one of her children that they were conceieved out of love because that is not the case. She was not in love with either of their fathers when she slept with them not Zander and not Jason (I know some of you may take an issue with that but I have to call it like I see it) She climbed the stairs in the dark to go and do what...play cards? no to go and sleep with him because she was hurt (and rightfully hurt by the actions of her husband I might add) but it still does not make what she did right. I know that by reading this you may think I dont love her, but that is far from the truth, I just have to speak on things the way that I see them. I love Liz just not what they are trying to shove down our screens because at the rate we are going she is going to have baby number three by her fiances brother and that will just be a wonderful thing to watch and yes to answer your questions I am quite koo koo for coco puffs! LOL. okay, well...i get what you are saying. i too, do not feel like either of her boys were conceived in love, but still...that doesn't matter much to me, because she loves those boys. unfortunately... she is doing wrong by them right now... even though she thinks she is trying to do right by them. lol..if that makes sense to you. i miss the teenage liz. i really do. she was soo great. i even liked her after that as well. when her and lucky worked things out and were happy for all of...what two seconds!?? i don't know if JJ will help, but it will help me. because, honestly, what could possibly be bad about getting to see that man on my screen? um...nothing! lol who knows, maybe, one day, liz will be interesting to watch again. but trust me... i'm not counting on it. maybe helena will spice things up?? Omg, I used to like, love Liz too. Then, she had sex with my boyfriend, Jason and I didn't like it. She is a terrible mother. I really hope that she has no more children. I am hoping that Helena kills Liz. That would be so cool and bring in so much more drama. Sorry, cocopuffs, I know that you LOVE liz and that she is your favorite character ever on GH, but she is not all that. haven't you heard...her ish don't stink! |
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Quote katie28: Quote CrazyBiotch: Quote katie28: Quote cocopuffs: Katie I will answer yout his way as to not take up so much space with what was already a long enough post by me. I am not sure if bringing back JJ is going to be enough to bring her back to what she once was. All of this lying and deceitfulness this is not what she used to be about. Now she is lying to lucky everyday, but not only to lucky but to her children. I mean I did not mention it before because my post was long enough but she cant possibly tell either one of her children that they were conceieved out of love because that is not the case. She was not in love with either of their fathers when she slept with them not Zander and not Jason (I know some of you may take an issue with that but I have to call it like I see it) She climbed the stairs in the dark to go and do what...play cards? no to go and sleep with him because she was hurt (and rightfully hurt by the actions of her husband I might add) but it still does not make what she did right. I know that by reading this you may think I dont love her, but that is far from the truth, I just have to speak on things the way that I see them. I love Liz just not what they are trying to shove down our screens because at the rate we are going she is going to have baby number three by her fiances brother and that will just be a wonderful thing to watch and yes to answer your questions I am quite koo koo for coco puffs! LOL. okay, well...i get what you are saying. i too, do not feel like either of her boys were conceived in love, but still...that doesn't matter much to me, because she loves those boys. unfortunately... she is doing wrong by them right now... even though she thinks she is trying to do right by them. lol..if that makes sense to you. i miss the teenage liz. i really do. she was soo great. i even liked her after that as well. when her and lucky worked things out and were happy for all of...what two seconds!?? i don't know if JJ will help, but it will help me. because, honestly, what could possibly be bad about getting to see that man on my screen? um...nothing! lol who knows, maybe, one day, liz will be interesting to watch again. but trust me... i'm not counting on it. maybe helena will spice things up?? Omg, I used to like, love Liz too. Then, she had sex with my boyfriend, Jason and I didn't like it. She is a terrible mother. I really hope that she has no more children. I am hoping that Helena kills Liz. That would be so cool and bring in so much more drama. Sorry, cocopuffs, I know that you LOVE liz and that she is your favorite character ever on GH, but she is not all that. haven't you heard...her ish don't stink! I bet it does. |
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