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Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!! and that is 183! lol |
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Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!! and that is 183! lol lmao!! |
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Quote Lizzie Come Out And : It was awhile ago so I might be a little fuzzy on some of this. Anyway, Helena Cassadine’s hatred for Elizabeth all ties in with Luke, Laura, Stavros, Lucky and Nik. Helena Cassadine didn’t like the idea that Lizzie out smarted her several years ago and has a debt to pay. When Lucky came back from the dead, Helena had controlled him by brainwashing him. Lizzie realized that something wasn’t right about Lucky because Lucky kept trying to push her into Nik’s arms. Lizzie found out that Helena had brainwashed Lucky so Lizzie got him professional help and Helena didn't like that. It worked for awhile. Helena Cassadine once again found away to control Lucky and she had Lucky do horrible things. I don’t remember why; but, Helena gave Lucky a ring to give to Lizzie. Laura saw the ring on Lizzie and knew that Helena was controlling Lucky again. Lucky knew he couldn’t fight Helena’s control over him so he wanted to take Lizzie and they leave Port Charles. This was around the same time Dr. Tony Jones played Dr. Frankenstein and brought Frankenstien which was Stavros back from the grave per Helena’s request. Things didn’t go the way Helena expected because Stavros wanted his family back. Anyway Stavros wanted to make sure Nik was 100% Cassadine so they had Nik pursue Lizzie. I think Nik was going with Gia at the time and Helena convinced Nik to break off with Gia which Nik did. I am trying to remember as much as I can, I think Nik wanted to know how Helena was controlling Lucky so Nik had Helena wipe Lucky’s memory and love of Lizzie so Nik could have Lizzie for himself. Lizzie was hiding and listening and they both found out how Helena was controlling Lucky by using the “Ice Princess.” Once Lizzie found out how Helena brainwashed Lucky she went looking for the “Ice Princess” and found it. Helena put two and two together and realized Lizzie had the “Ice Princess” so she ordered Nik to kill Lizzie. Nik didn’t want to do it; but, it was another test to see if Nik was 100% Cassadine. Nik passed the test at least that's what Helena thought. Lizzie asked Bobbie to help her fake her death. Bobbie agreed. Sonny also helped by hiding Lizzie's body so Helena wouldn't know the truth. Helena and Stavros were just shrewd people, they ended up capturing all of them and holding them prisoners and they were going to use Lucky to exterminate them all. Somehow Lucky was no longer brainwashed and the mission failed. I think Helena always blamed Lizzie because she lost control over Lucky. Anyway they have a long history and they was a lot to this storyline. I might be off on some of the details; but, not too far off. I hope you get the gist of it. Thanks for the recap. I really miss s/l likes this. |
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I don't know why she hates Liz but I want to know how Helene knows everything that's going on, who the spy Alfred? |
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Helena hates Liz for the same reason that I hate Liz and that is because she's lying, evil, and condecending little Per Soaps.com guidelines, using derogatory names against a character is not allowed who is edited around with Nik behind Lucky and Rebecca's back. I HATE LIZ!! |
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I think Helena's comments to Liz today were comical. Did Helena say anything that wasn't true, no because Liz has never HAD a halo and she was never perfect. |
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Quote genhospchat: I think Helena's comments to Liz today were comical. Did Helena say anything that wasn't true, no because Liz has never HAD a halo and she was never perfect. When has Liz EVER claimed to be perfect? NEVER! She has ALWAYS told Jason and Lucky (who have both called her perfect) that she's not and she makes mistakes and wrong decisions like everyone else. What's funny is Liz TRIES her best to do what's best for EVERYONE ELSE BUT herself. Is she always right in those decisions, heck no and she's ALWAYS the first to say it. Liz is one that acts how others EXPECT her to act, not always how she WANTS to act, hence why there are times that she will act on her feelings but then turn around and say "oh I can't do this." It's what she WANTS but knows it's not always best for others around her. Hmm, imagine, she's HUMAN! It's only the people that don't like Liz that say "oh look she's not perfect after all." Hmm, that's funny, because her fans ALREADY knew that! I think it's GREAT she can call out her own mistakes but then try her best to fix them, instead of blaming everyone else for her mistakes and then having to do stunts to make people like her again. I can't WAIT to see how this story goes with her and Helena because I know Liz will come out on top....like the last two times Helena tried to take her down! While I have only watched the show for two years I agree with your assessment of Liz. She is not perfect, as none of us are, however I never saw her purposely go out of her way to hurt someone. I never saw a "I will get you back attitude". She really tries to make the right decisions for her and her kids, however our minds can not always rule over our hearts. As far as Helena, I think she would like nothing better than to break Nicks ties with his brother and Luke. It would make him more vulunerable to a takedown by her. Any woman that Nick cares about is only a pawn for Helena and at this point she knows that Liz is one of his soft spots. |
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Quote luluspencer: I don't know why she hates Liz but I want to know how Helene knows everything that's going on, who the spy Alfred? I think Helena would hate any person who Nick trusts and confides in. It almost reminds me of Claudia and Johnny. You notice I said almost because nobody can be as possessive as Claudia. LOL Probably the man who operates the Launch or another housekeeper. I really doubt Alfred. |
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Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!! and that is 183! lol lmao!! Ha - I posted on this topic (sort of) on the another MB. I hate Hellz - always have, always will! She is the one character I love to hate (with the possible exception of Jerry Jacks). But this one time, just this once, I an totally pulling for her to expose NizzZZZZzzz. My only regret is that it will deeply hurt Lucky, who (IMO) does not deserve it this time around! Go Hellz! |
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Quote M.Alongi: Quote luluspencer: I don't know why she hates Liz but I want to know how Helene knows everything that's going on, who the spy Alfred? I think Helena would hate any person who Nick trusts and confides in. It almost reminds me of Claudia and Johnny. You notice I said almost because nobody can be as possessive as Claudia. LOL Probably the man who operates the Launch or another housekeeper. I really doubt Alfred. True, but I remenber one time Helene was handcuff to the bed and someone let her go, and Alfred, was there. |
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Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!! and that is 183! lol Helena is my hero! God, I love that woman. |
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Quote RainStormRaider: Helena is usually an equal-opportunity hater (except for when it comes to Nikoloser)....but I'm pretty sure outside of Luke, Elizabeth has been the only one to ever best her at her own game....that probably breeds hatred and rivalry....gotta admire the Webber/Hardy genes there.... I don't think that Helena is scared of Elizabeth. |
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Quote Devil-or-Angel: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!! and that is 183! lol lmao!! Ha - I posted on this topic (sort of) on the another MB. I hate Hellz - always have, always will! She is the one character I love to hate (with the possible exception of Jerry Jacks). But this one time, just this once, I an totally pulling for her to expose NizzZZZZzzz. My only regret is that it will deeply hurt Lucky, who (IMO) does not deserve it this time around! Go Hellz! Helena is the BEST!!! |
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Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! Totally awesome!! |
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