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Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
Started by alissain at 2009/10/12 01:54PM
Latest post: 2009/10/17 08:40AM,
Views: 1092, Replies: 38
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2009/10/12 01:54PM
Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
alissain

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Brief me, I don't remember that. How would Elizabeth even figure into the Cassadines or Helena's world? What happened?
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2009/10/12 01:56PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
Jasam09

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Quote alissain: Brief me, I don't remember that. How would Elizabeth even figure into the Cassadines or Helena's world? What happened? Well she used to be married to a Spencer, and she means something to Nikolas. Maybe Helena will see her as some sort of leverage to use against Nik, or something.
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2009/10/12 02:14PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
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2009/10/12 03:02PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
liz-fan

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Helena and Liz and history 101.. Liz and Lucky where young and in love only Lucky was kidnapped and persumed dead in a fire... Only Helena and that one guy had him... Liz was the reason Lucky took so long to control for them... Then Nicholas (even though the show is ignoring it started having feelings for Liz) Liz didn't return those feelings in fact she was starting to care for Jason. Then Jason left and Lucky returned. Liz was the only one who actaully reached past Helena's control... And there was Gia in Nic's life... Helena hated Gia... She actaully wanted him with Liz because she thught that was what he wanted nd anything was better than Gia in her eyes... So she wiped Lucky of any memory of Liz and his love... Then she realized wiping Lucky only took care of half the problem Liz still loved Lucky... So Helena used Liz to test Nicholas... She had him pison Liz ony he didn't really and Liz escaped her... So in the end she hates anyne Nicholas is involoved with... Liz is just the lucky one that always gets caught up in her escapades.
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#5
2009/10/12 04:12PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
Lizzie Come ...

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It was awhile ago so I might be a little fuzzy on some of this. Anyway, Helena Cassadine’s hatred for Elizabeth all ties in with Luke, Laura, Stavros, Lucky and Nik. Helena Cassadine didn’t like the idea that Lizzie out smarted her several years ago and has a debt to pay. When Lucky came back from the dead, Helena had controlled him by brainwashing him. Lizzie realized that something wasn’t right about Lucky because Lucky kept trying to push her into Nik’s arms. Lizzie found out that Helena had brainwashed Lucky so Lizzie got him professional help and Helena didn't like that. It worked for awhile. Helena Cassadine once again found away to control Lucky and she had Lucky do horrible things. I don’t remember why; but, Helena gave Lucky a ring to give to Lizzie. Laura saw the ring on Lizzie and knew that Helena was controlling Lucky again. Lucky knew he couldn’t fight Helena’s control over him so he wanted to take Lizzie and they leave Port Charles. This was around the same time Dr. Tony Jones played Dr. Frankenstein and brought Frankenstien which was Stavros back from the grave per Helena’s request. Things didn’t go the way Helena expected because Stavros wanted his family back. Anyway Stavros wanted to make sure Nik was 100% Cassadine so they had Nik pursue Lizzie. I think Nik was going with Gia at the time and Helena convinced Nik to break off with Gia which Nik did. I am trying to remember as much as I can, I think Nik wanted to know how Helena was controlling Lucky so Nik had Helena wipe Lucky’s memory and love of Lizzie so Nik could have Lizzie for himself. Lizzie was hiding and listening and they both found out how Helena was controlling Lucky by using the “Ice Princess.” Once Lizzie found out how Helena brainwashed Lucky she went looking for the “Ice Princess” and found it. Helena put two and two together and realized Lizzie had the “Ice Princess” so she ordered Nik to kill Lizzie. Nik didn’t want to do it; but, it was another test to see if Nik was 100% Cassadine. Nik passed the test at least that's what Helena thought. Lizzie asked Bobbie to help her fake her death. Bobbie agreed. Sonny also helped by hiding Lizzie's body so Helena wouldn't know the truth. Helena and Stavros were just shrewd people, they ended up capturing all of them and holding them prisoners and they were going to use Lucky to exterminate them all. Somehow Lucky was no longer brainwashed and the mission failed. I think Helena always blamed Lizzie because she lost control over Lucky. Anyway they have a long history and they was a lot to this storyline. I might be off on some of the details; but, not too far off. I hope you get the gist of it.
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2009/10/12 04:21PM
#6
2009/10/13 12:31PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
TashiMarlie92

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this is kinda off topic but i just started watching gh last year and i was wondering does helena really love nikolas? i am so confused if she is or not because she doesn't like anyone nik has feelings for?? someone please help me with this.
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#7
2009/10/13 12:41PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
JaneDoe

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Quote lovelyliz: That is news to me because I always thought she adore Liz. Now all of a sudden she do not like Liz. I also thought she like Liz and Nic together. Now it's Rebecca and Nic she likes.  That does not surprise me Gh don't want Liz with anyone. Word to GH don't start anything in the first place if they have no intention of making them as a couple.  These writers are a bunch of asses! I don't think Helena has ever adored anyone other than Nikolas and Stavros. She only wanted Liz with Nik because she hated Gia. Liz has outsmarted Helena in the past and I can't imagine Helena NOT hating Liz for that. Helena hates everyone involved with her precious Nik and if she's suddenly wanting him with Rebecca, it has to serve some ultimate purpose for her (Helena).
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2009/10/13 12:42PM
#8
2009/10/13 06:54PM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
cherrycola

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Quote TashiMarlie92: this is kinda off topic but i just started watching gh last year and i was wondering does helena really love nikolas? i am so confused if she is or not because she doesn't like anyone nik has feelings for?? someone please help me with this. I think she thinks she does, but that she has love confused with obsession.
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#9
2009/10/15 04:49AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
soapwwefan23

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Hopefully Nikolas helps Liz
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#10
2009/10/15 05:45AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
Lizzie Come ...

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Quote soapwwefan23: Hopefully Nikolas helps Liz I think he will help Lizzie because I think he truly love her and don't want her harm. I would also like to see Nik and Lizzie outsmart Helena.
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2009/10/15 05:50AM
#11
2009/10/15 07:44AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
katie28

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Because helena is awesome!!
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#12
2009/10/15 09:39AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
really241

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Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post!
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#13
2009/10/15 09:43AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
katie28

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Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena
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#14
2009/10/15 09:44AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
really241

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Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik
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2009/10/15 09:44AM
#15
2009/10/15 09:48AM
Re: Why does Helena hate Elizabeth?
katie28

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Quote really241: Quote katie28: Quote really241: Quote katie28: Because helena is awesome!! and five more points! 182!....oh yeah ditto to this post! shiiiibbyyyyy! i heart helena lol she is def one of those people you love to hate and hate to love but oddly enough find yourself loving her....hmmm wondering what that says about my state of mind that I think that her evilness is fabulous! she hates everyone equally that gets close to nik it means that you are awesome!!
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