General Hospital - MESSAGE BOARDS

Quote Smiletatoo:

My theory on this is....All her and Lucky do it talk about money and she likes to travel and wishes she were in far off parts of the world...maybe she wants Jason's money!!!! Maybe she want him to take care of her!!! Then she won't have to work or run around or live at grammys house anymore. She'll have body guards and a large bank account!
JMO!!! Don't get mad! You said conspiracy theories!!!

Quote dillion2me: my point she was being selffish, and carless cause she didnt care. not cause she didnt care intentionally about hurting other, but she was carless, about hurting herself, thats what she wanted.
on the other hand Liz is caring, and doesnt want to hurt knowone uintentionally, yet, she is, which is worser, cause she cares and caring to much and not totally thinking about, the childs needs, enough. shes been taking care of her andother needs more then her baby.
you know this is funny, we like both of them, its just they are caught in a wierd situation. and were going on and on about whos more wrong. i think we're going to both stick with our opinions.

Quote onelifeonesoap.:

I agree with you.Liz is making all sorts of problems,My opinion is she had her chances with Jason before him and Sam got back together,she did not want him then but now that Jason is happy with Sam,Liz is all the sudden in love with him,please Liz is by far worse then Maxie,Liz certainly did not like what Maxie did to her but it is ok for Liz to do the samething and not be wrong.That is just hating.If Jason were not with Sam it would be another whole story,he proposed to Liz before him and Sam got back together and she rejected saying they both loved other people.When in reality she does not love Lucky obviously if she did she would give him another chance,she refused Jason casue she new he loved Sam and no matter what she could never win his heart! The end! Liz will NEVER win Jason's heart! Never ever ever! Oh and if i recall corectly wasn't it Liz that told Jason them sleeping together was only that night and never again!

Quote Starrgirlfish:


I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Maxie lied to manipulate Lucky. She lied to keep him bound in relationship with her when he didn't want anything to do with her. She said she was pregnant when she wasn't, even going so far as to fall down a flight of stairs and fake a miscarriage and played the grieving mother to be. Her reasons were purely and totally self serving.

Liz, on the other hand, is pregnant and has withheld the truth about her baby's paternity as she is trying to protect Lucky and keep him from relapsing in his addiction to pills. And since we saw Lucky wrestling with temptation when he busted someone with Hydrocodone, perhaps you'll concede that Liz's concerns are justified.

One is meant to manipulate, one is meant to protect. One comes from a devious spirit; one comes from love and concern. Sure, both lies are lies, but the reasons for the lies make these two women polar opposites. Since Liz's motives are pure is she justified in lying? Nope. But I can feel sympathy for her, and I can imagine making such a choice.

Like Liz, I think I have at times felt responsible for other peoples' well being, even when that feeling was erroneous. Haven't we all struggled with such choices? We make sacrifices, and we fail to act on things we want to do because someone, somewhere will get hurt and we feel responsible for their pain. Jason is the father of Liz's baby, and she loves him. But if she tells the truth, she hurts Jason and Sam, she hurts Lucky, she hurts Lulu and Gram and all the people rooting for her and Lucky to reunite, she jeopardizes Lucky's recovery as he keeps saying "I am motivated to stay clean because of the baby…" All sorts of people are invested in this, so Liz feels responsible to EVERYONE. She decides she will be the one to bear the pain and let everyone else be happy.

They are completely different lies. And Liz's lie is WAY more justified then Maxie's selfish lie.

JMO!!!
Maxie, OTOH lied to get what she wanted and didn't care who she hurt. She's a selfish lying skank

Quote army_wife: ITA. Maxies lie was horrible but atleast they dint drag out the s\l. The Liz s\l not telling the truth to Jason & Lucky is so over done & to top it off after she finally tells the truth we'll find out the test was changed. Just like a soap.

Quote toorobbin: Liz is still jerking Jason and Lucky around, and pulling their strings. Which is just as wrong in my opinion.

As a nurse, Liz is trained to show compassion, but she doesn't do that. All she does is talk down to every one, and asks every one to cover for her.

Quote Starrgirlfish:


I agree that Liz should tell Jason and Lucky the truth. But, I don't think that she's jerking Jason and Lucky around. In my opinion she's trying to do what she thinks is best. She doesn't want to be the one responsible for breaking up Jason and Sam, she doesn't want to be the one responsible for putting Lucky back on drugs, and she doesn't want to be the one responsible for causing so much pain to her friends and family who want her with Lucky. She's doing what she thinks is best right now. Of course, she should tell the truth, but she doesn't want to be the one responsible for so much hurt.

And I'm sorry but, I don't think I've ever recalled Liz talking down to someone or asking someone to cover for her. When did this happen?

Quote dillion2me: your right, Maxie lied, to get what she wanted. Think of what kind of person she was before. Maxie was happy, and when she lost Jesse. she continued to hurt herself and others to,recarnate Jesse with other cops, starting with Lucky. Lucky was hurting and already taking pills before she came along. she shouldnt have given him none, but in her mind she needed him, and that was the only way, and she did whatever it took to keep him, including lying about pregancy. But Liz yes Lucky cheated on her, yet it was wrong of her to sleep with Jason still married. i believe she doesnt want to tell Lucky because shes afraid of him relapsing. I'm also think she wont tell the truth because she doesnt want to face what she did, and now having feelings for Jason.

and Maxie did not put a gun to his head to make him take those pills. im not saying its easy to turn away from pills, he was under the influense of pills to where he cheated, to where he was doing only for himself,

Maxie had lost the love of her life, and stop seeing clearly, to where she only did for herself.she really does want to feel less.

and Liz, she is stuck on him going back on drugs, but she has nothing holding her back. she just is afraid to face the truth.
Everyone has came out with the thruth, either by being caught or not, except Liz. Yes what Maxie and Lucky did had hurt eachother and Liz, yet what is is lying about will hurt much more people, and that clearly is worser then Maxies faults.

Quote Morganfamily:

Good point! I think both are evil!

Quote Smiletatoo:

My theory on this is....All her and Lucky do it talk about money and she likes to travel and wishes she were in far off parts of the world...maybe she wants Jason's money!!!! Maybe she want him to take care of her!!! Then she won't have to work or run around or live at grammys house anymore. She'll have body guards and a large bank account!
JMO!!! Don't get mad! You said conspiracy theories!!!

Quote LAURA143: Maxie and Liz are the same

Quote soapnoitall:

jmo: some ppl only say things like that for 1 of 2 reasons:

1)Liz hater because shes having Jasons Baby.
2)watching GH from another planet.

Quote madhearts4liason:

I think it's both..Liz haters..and watching from the planet of DENIAL..LOL..Everyone knows Liz isnt evil..she's making mistakes..as humans do..and as the GH writers want the storyline to go..But I dont see them suddenly turning her into some evil person..Ppl keep saying her secrets are going to hurt everyone..everyone on the show has had secrets..so what if it's Liz's turn..When is everyone going to just admit they hate Liz because she's having Jason's baby..hating her isnt going to change that..I feel ppl know where this storyline is heading and it's making them angry so they are lashing out at Liz's character..Jason was just as much a part of the so called one night stand (with all of the cuddling..kissing..hair touching..handholding..face touching) as she was..but ppl arent hating on him..They are angry because he doesnt regret it..he's not sorry..and guess what..he never will be..he'll never be sorry that he created a child with someone he loves and cares for so much..and this makes ppl angry..When Liz helped Jason once before..he said this to her..and I quote "A friend doesnt drag someone out of the snow and take care of them..A friend doesnt get you help even when you tell them not to..A friend doesnt lie to everyone they know to protect you..That's not a friend..that's more than a friend..and there's not a word to describe how I feel about you"..says it all.