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Just for the fun of it..I'd like to hear the "great conspiracy" theories on why everyone believe's Liz is "really" keeping the secret..Of course I believe it's because she's trying to protect everyone..and she's confused..and she has too many ppl telling her she should be with Lucky..and the baby should be his.and blah blah..But apparently there is another deep dark secret reason that Liz is keeping her secret from everyone? So I'd like to hear it..What does she have to gain..by keeping it from Jason..if her evil intentions are to steal Jason from Sam..hmm..I'd like to hear this.. |
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Quote dillion2me: yes, when Maxie lied, she did it to self gain, then on the other hand, alot of people in life try to do things for once, for them selves to gain more for yourselves. its just that Maxie was emotionally still tramatized, and she went a whole nother level getting what she wanted. in my opinion, Liz is a good person, who is just simply making wrong choices, and thats partly because she doesnt want to face what she got into, and what she should be dealing with. when Maxie did what she did, she hurt, Liz by sleeping with Lucky and giving him pills. Aint in the first thing you learn in rehap, you are responsible for yourself, and taking drugs at the end was your choice. Maxie helped give Lucky pills, but it was Lucky's choice and he took it. think about this, if Maxie was in her right mind, and was not emotionally tramatized, she would have never given Lucky those pills. come on think about how she was, before Jesse died. Okay, you keep saying that Maxie was emotionally tramatized. But, if Lucky is supposed to take full responsibility with no help from anyone else for the pills. Well Maxie should take full responsibility for her OWN actions as well. Emotionally damaged or not...she knew what she was doing. She knew what she wanted. And she didn't care who she hurt to get what she wanted. Being emotionally damaged did not cause her to suddenly stop realizing what she was doing. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She should take full responsibility for her OWN actions as well. And not blame it on being emotionally tramatized. JMO. IMO she didn't look very emotionally tramatized. She looked evil, manipulative, and selfish. All out to get Lucky..and not caring what she did to HIM or others to get what she wanted. |
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well, shes not forsefully trying to steal Jason, but just the thought of her wanting him, and constantly throwing her problems in his life, is like a way for her to get closer to him. if she is not going to tell the truth about Jason being the father of her child. yea people say she should be with Lucky but like Maxie made her dicisons and Lucky, she didn't get a gun put to her head to stick with that, and shes getting involved with lucky. |
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Quote dillion2me: well, shes not forsefully trying to steal Jason, but just the thought of her wanting him, and constantly throwing her problems in his life, is like a way for her to get closer to him. if she is not going to tell the truth about Jason being the father of her child. yea people say she should be with Lucky but like Maxie made her dicisons and Lucky, she didn't get a gun put to her head to stick with that, and shes getting involved with lucky. She's not intentionally throwing her problems into his life. He's her friend and wants to help her..she's not asking for him to help her or give her advice or to just talk to her. He WANTS to help her. The key word is WANTS to. He cares about her. They talk because that's what friends do. She's not acting on her want for him. She's not being selfish by using her baby as leverage to get him away from Sam. |
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theres different ways to feeling emotionally, tramatized. she knew what she was doing, i dont doubt that. what im saying is that, after all she went through with jesse dying, She STOPPED caring for her actions.she knew what she was doing, and she was doing it for herself. people go emotionally tramatized in many ways like: andry, careless, sad, suicidal, etc... and for this case she went careless. and im not saying Liz is a bad person, shes just making wrong choices, for wrong reason. the truth is she is not responsible for Lucky, just like Maxie wasnt responsible for his behavior.so in other words, she needs to think about the beby, and whos best for the baby, and not how Lucky could get back on pills. Lucky's not even the father, so when she states the truth, its not going to effect the beby as bad as not telling the truth. how will everyone take it when they find out, they may act cool, but inside, will damage |
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im not saying shes going to jason and spreading out her feelings, im saying that she knows if she has a situation she knows he will want to know, and before thinking it through ir doesshe, she tells him her problem shes feeling. well the only thing she needs to really tell him is the truth which she holds back from him. |
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Quote dillion2me: theres different ways to feeling emotionally, tramatized. she knew what she was doing, i dont doubt that. what im saying is that, after all she went through with jesse dying, She STOPPED caring for her actions.she knew what she was doing, and she was doing it for herself. people go emotionally tramatized in many ways like: andry, careless, sad, suicidal, etc... and for this case she went careless. and im not saying Liz is a bad person, shes just making wrong choices, for wrong reason. the truth is she is not responsible for Lucky, just like Maxie wasnt responsible for his behavior.so in other words, she needs to think about the beby, and whos best for the baby, and not how Lucky could get back on pills. Lucky's not even the father, so when she states the truth, its not going to effect the beby as bad as not telling the truth. how will everyone take it when they find out, they may act cool, but inside, will damage The thing is..only 2 ppl are going to be hurt directly..Lucky and Jason..I believe Jason will be really forgiving..he's an understanding person..Lucky will be angry..because he's hoping a baby means another chance for him and Liz..without the baby..he will lose hope..and he will be angry that she had sex with Jason..but he has no right to judge her for that considering his own actions..as for the ppl being hurt indirectly..Emily..because she will be disappointed that Liz didnt confide in her..Lulu..because she is fearful that Lucky will go back on pills..Sam..because she will feel threatened..and of course grahm will be hurt because Liz didnt tell her either..I know some keep saying that Liz shouldnt feel responsible for Lucky..but how many ppl keep telling her that the only reason he's clean is because of her? Lulu..rodriguez..Nik..the only person that is telling her that she shouldnt feel responsible..is Jason..so how can she not be confused? |
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Quote dillion2me: theres different ways to feeling emotionally, tramatized. she knew what she was doing, i dont doubt that. what im saying is that, after all she went through with jesse dying, She STOPPED caring for her actions.she knew what she was doing, and she was doing it for herself. people go emotionally tramatized in many ways like: andry, careless, sad, suicidal, etc... and for this case she went careless. and im not saying Liz is a bad person, shes just making wrong choices, for wrong reason. the truth is she is not responsible for Lucky, just like Maxie wasnt responsible for his behavior.so in other words, she needs to think about the beby, and whos best for the baby, and not how Lucky could get back on pills. Lucky's not even the father, so when she states the truth, its not going to effect the beby as bad as not telling the truth. how will everyone take it when they find out, they may act cool, but inside, will damage Well then there's the problem right there. Just because she stopped caring doesn't excuse her for her actions. It's exactly what makes her selfish. She suddenly forgot about all the people around her and went after the thing she wanted not caring who she hurt or what she did to get what she wants. She hurt people. Liz on the other hand CARES. She doesn't want to hurt anyone and cares about what she does. She's willing to bare the pain she feels inside so everyone else won't get hurt. I don't think Maxie or Liz is a BAD or EVIL person. I just think that Maxie's intentions and actions were worse then Liz's. |
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Even when Maxie knew that Lucky didnt want her..she didnt stop..she even used his addiction as a way to keep her hooks in him..she told him she wouldnt give him pills unless he has sex with her..she was treating him like a crackwh0r3..and when the truth came out about her faked pregnancy..the way she blurted it out to Lucky like it was no big deal..with no feeling..that was cold..I dont think Maxie is evil..but she is selfish..it's obvious she was only thinking about herself..perhaps it was brought on by the death of jesse..and hopefully we will be seeing a nicer side to her..I've enjoyed her scenes in the vault with Three..she's not so bad when she isnt manipulating..LOL.. |
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well eaxactly, my point your saying its ok for her to lie cause Jason will just forgive and lucky will get over it. well that will just be testing there feelings. and thats not a good way to do that. and it will hurt others, besides jason and lucky, it will hurt sam. and other names that i cant describe. so what she does, well he is responsible for himself Lucky., whether shes doing right or wrong for her personal reasons hes responsible for his mistakes. same for Maxie, for her own personal reasons, hes responsible for himself. |
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my point she was being selffish, and carless cause she didnt care. not cause she didnt care intentionally about hurting other, but she was carless, about hurting herself, thats what she wanted. |
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I'm not sure who ur post is for..but I will just say that..I've never said Liz keeping the secret is ok..I think we are just debating reasons..Like reaons Maxie did what she did..and reasons why Liz is keeping her secret..I dont disagree that it's wrong..in both cases..no matter what the reasons are..but if someone is going to defend Maxie for her reasons..and say Liz's reasons are worse..then that opens a debate as to which of the wrongs are the lesser of the two..it's no debate that both are wrong in my opinion..Liz is making a mistake by keeping it a secret..but she has her reasons..just like everyone else has their reasons for keeping secrets..if you try to make one a lesser of 2 evils..then you have to prove that both intentions are evil..I dont see Liz's reasons as malicious..but Maxie's definitely were malicious.. |
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i would definately have to say that i completely dislike maxie. she kept lucky on drugs. and in my eyes its her fault why elizabeth is pregant with jasons baby. it's her fault why lucky got fired. it's her fault why sam and carly both cussed elizabeth out. it's her fault why sam and elizabeth are both disliking each other. but in reality they probably could be good friends with both emily too because she's related to jason. so in conclusion to all of this liz would definately win becauwse she put up with her husbands addiction for as long as she could. she put up with him after he said he had dreams about him killing her. about howww.soaps.com/images/ifc/icons/icon8.gifw he didn't trust him around Dr.Drake. about him cheating on her. also for him to "accidently" push her down when she revealed that she was pregenant. Lucky loved her even when he was sober and normal. the only reason why he liked maxie was because she gave him pills and because he felt bad because he thought that he pushed her down and made her lose her baby. even though he didn't really push her down stairs and for the main fact that she wasn't pregenant in the first place. |
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Quote madhearts4liason: Just for the fun of it..I'd like to hear the "great conspiracy" theories on why everyone believe's Liz is "really" keeping the secret..Of course I believe it's because she's trying to protect everyone..and she's confused..and she has too many ppl telling her she should be with Lucky..and the baby should be his.and blah blah..But apparently there is another deep dark secret reason that Liz is keeping her secret from everyone? So I'd like to hear it..What does she have to gain..by keeping it from Jason..if her evil intentions are to steal Jason from Sam..hmm..I'd like to hear this.. My theory on this is....All her and Lucky do it talk about money and she likes to travel and wishes she were in far off parts of the world...maybe she wants Jason's money!!!! Maybe she want him to take care of her!!! Then she won't have to work or run around or live at grammys house anymore. She'll have body guards and a large bank account! JMO!!! Don't get mad! You said conspiracy theories!!! |
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Maxie and Liz are the same |
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