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Liz keeps going on dinner dates with Lucky???Why
Started by ILoveJason at 2007/01/31 03:24PMLatest post: 2007/02/06 01:33PM, Views: 334, Replies: 30
ILoveJason |
Is she trying to make Jason jelous,he obviously does not care! Jason is sort of telling Liz to go back with Lucky.What does that tell you |
toorobbin |
Or maybe, she just wants a free meal. |
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ILoveJason |
Quote toorobbin: Or maybe, she just wants a free meal. mooocher!!!! Is that the word.She is pulling him by the nose,I mean she tells the whole world she does not want to be with him,why doesn't she tell him directly,instead of pulling him by the nose,making him look stupid i have alway's said her doing it like this she will be the reason he relapses she does not care. 
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mommymccormick |
:-) Quote ILoveJason: Quote toorobbin: Or maybe, she just wants a free meal. mooocher!!!! Is that the word.She is pulling him by the nose,I mean she tells the whole world she does not want to be with him,why doesn't she tell him directly,instead of pulling him by the nose,making him look stupid i have alway's said her doing it like this she will be the reason he relapses she does not care. Speaking of mooocher, I also think that she got a free dress on Em for the occasion...lol... 
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toorobbin |
I think Emily used Maxie's discount card. |
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ILoveJason |
Quote toorobbin: I think Emily used Maxie's discount card. Ins't that funny..LoL Maxies discount and Emily's money=MOOOOCHER |
onelifeonesoap. |
Quote ILoveJason: Quote toorobbin: I think Emily used Maxie's discount card. Ins't that funny..LoL Maxies discount and Emily's money=MOOOOCHER Funny~~~ |
miss opinion... |
Quote ILoveJason: Is she trying to make Jason jelous,he obviously does not care! Jason is sort of telling Liz to go back with Lucky.What does that tell you  I don't think so . I Think that she doesn't want to hurt Lucky and feels that her rejection could send him back to drugs . Though lying about the father of her child doesn't help . This is another relationship who I can't root for . A situation like Sonny's And Carly's , where Lucky is just trying to force the outcome he wants , and where Liz isn't speaking up and letting him know where he truly stand . A relationship doesn't stand a chance without , honesty , trust, respect or faith . Love isn't the only thing that matters . Also she isn't a mooch , Emily but her that dress by her own choice . Liz didn't even want to go to the Metro Court , and fom the looks of what is going on , her insticts were right . |
SparkApCider |
Quote miss opinionated: Quote ILoveJason: Is she trying to make Jason jelous,he obviously does not care! Jason is sort of telling Liz to go back with Lucky.What does that tell you I don't think so . I Think that she doesn't want to hurt Lucky and feels that her rejection could send him back to drugs . Though lying about the father of her child doesn't help . This is another relationship who I can't root for . A situation like Sonny's And Carly's , where Lucky is just trying to force the outcome he wants , and where Liz isn't speaking up and letting him know where he truly stand . A relationship doesn't stand a chance without , honesty , trust, respect or faith . Love isn't the only thing that matters . Also she isn't a mooch , Emily but her that dress by her own choice . Liz didn't even want to go to the Metro Court , and fom the looks of what is going on , her insticts were right . I know you wrote as you see it...but the writers are really elevating the 'drug' issue to Liz... But like Maxie said, it is his inability to get traction in his life... all parties will just have to deal with the blow out...eventually! |
Starrgirlfish |
Quote SparkApCider: Quote miss opinionated: Quote ILoveJason: Is she trying to make Jason jelous,he obviously does not care! Jason is sort of telling Liz to go back with Lucky.What does that tell you I don't think so . I Think that she doesn't want to hurt Lucky and feels that her rejection could send him back to drugs . Though lying about the father of her child doesn't help . This is another relationship who I can't root for . A situation like Sonny's And Carly's , where Lucky is just trying to force the outcome he wants , and where Liz isn't speaking up and letting him know where he truly stand . A relationship doesn't stand a chance without , honesty , trust, respect or faith . Love isn't the only thing that matters . Also she isn't a mooch , Emily but her that dress by her own choice . Liz didn't even want to go to the Metro Court , and fom the looks of what is going on , her insticts were right . I know you wrote as you see it...but the writers are really elevating the 'drug' issue to Liz... But like Maxie said, it is his inability to get traction in his life... all parties will just have to deal with the blow out...eventually! The writers are elevating the "drug" issue? Are you serious? Lucky...was addicted drugs..and is STILL tempted at every moment to take them! He had an affair with Maxie of all people. He continually said he was going to get clean, but didn't. And then he finally said he was going to get clean ONLY when he found out that Elizabeth was pregnant. It wasn't Elizabeth or Cameron that made him decide to get clean. It was the baby that she is carrying (Jason's by the way). Elizabeth has every right to say that she can't and probably never will trust Lucky. She has children to think about. And a drug addict in their lives would definitely NOT help them in any way, and the constant trust issue would still be there this early. I think that they aren't elevating it at all. It should be more elevated. But, Liz is trying to protect. I will say this again...in my opinion Liz is trying to protect Lucky fromg going back on drugs...which he probably will once he finds out that the baby isn't his. She isn't telling Jason because he has a life with Sam right now..and she doesn't want to cause anyone pain. She doesn't want to hurt anyone. Everyone keeps saying how selfish Liz is being but in my opinion that's not true at all. If Liz truly was selfish..she would have accepted Jason's marriage proposal, she would have flat out told Lucky..no I'm sorry I don't love you anymore, she would have told Jason she is in love with him and is pregnant with his child. But, she has done NONE of these things. Liz is a protector in my opinion...she doesn't want to cause anyone any pain or grief or chaos that her baby's paternity would cause. Again all of this is just my opinion. And I know what I said was probably pointless because everyone has their own opinions about both girls that probably can't be changed...but I was bored..and just wanted to write out my opinion on this matter. Happy posting 
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Devil-or-Angel |
In my opinion Liz may be a protector, but it's only of herself and her better than everyone else attitude. |
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Starrgirlfish |
Quote Devil-or-Angel: In my opinion Liz may be a protector, but it's only of herself and her better than everyone else attitude. She didn't have any trouble telling other people about Lucky's drug problem and she didn't care who was around when she screamed at Maxie about sleeping with her husband, but I noticed that she is not exactly telling the truth about WHAT she has done! Most likely it's cause she knows that once everyone realizes how two faced she is they will no longer consider her the "poor victim" in all this. Also if she really cared about Jason as much as she claimed she does she would have told him the truth from the begining and stuck to her "I want to raise my children by myself" desicion. At least then he would be making his decisions based on all the facts not walking blindfolded towards a cliff! And if she had ANY respect for JaSam's relationship she would avoid Jason when ever possible (since she knows that it upsets the woman he loves) instead of constantly seeking him out to talk about the same things over and over again. (Just how many times does Jason have to tell her that she should get back with Lucky before Liz gets the hint?) In the end her "protection" of Lucky is what will hurt him the most. It doesn't matter what Lucky did or that he did it first, Liz owed him honesty due to the fact that they were married at the time that her night with Jason and PG happened. All she is showing that that she is as bad has Lucky, no worse, because he has faced his mistakes and is tryng to work past them while she not the least bit sorry for her cheating and all her deceptions! Devil-or-Angel, I respect your opinion. But, I have to disagree with Liz being worse then Lucky, and about her only protecting herself: Like Liz, I think I have at times felt responsible for other peoples' well being, even when that feeling was erroneous. Haven't we all struggled with such choices? We make sacrifices, and we fail to act on things we want to do because someone, somewhere will get hurt and we feel responsible for their pain. Jason is the father of Liz's baby, and she loves him. But if she tells the truth, she hurts Jason and Sam, she hurts Lucky, she hurts Lulu and Gram and all the people rooting for her and Lucky to reunite, she jeopardizes Lucky's recovery as he keeps saying "I am motivated to stay clean because of the baby…" All sorts of people are invested in this, so Liz feels responsible to EVERYONE. She decides she will be the one to bear the pain and let everyone else be happy. I actually think that Liz is the exact opposite of selfish. We all know that if the truth about her baby's paternity gets out it would be mad chaos. Carly, Sonny, Sam, everyone rooting for Liz and Lucky to get back together, it would be horrible. Lucky repeatedly says that the only reason he is staying clean is because of the baby. All of Liz's friends keep coming up to her and pushing her towards Lucky because they feel if Liz lets him down...he will go back on drugs. And that is something that Liz doesn't want to be responsible for. Something that no one would want to be responsible for. I don't think that Liz is trying to just protect herself. If she was then she would have accepted Jason's marriage proposal and use her baby's paternity to steal Jason and guilt him into being with her. I actually don't think that Liz seeks Jason out. They just run into eachother. And Jason doesn't seem at all annoyed to be talking to Liz...he genuinely cares for her and wants to help her in any way that he can. That scene around Christmas when he got that toy for Cameron that Liz had been trying to get touched me. It was such a beautiful scene. I am in no way a fan of Maxie's. If I got a chance to fire Maxie from her job like Liz did. I would have took it. But, Liz didn't. She could have gotten Maxie fired from her job at the hotel...but, she chose not to. I think that was significant in who Liz really is. The only reason Liz isn't telling anyone about her baby's paternity is because it would be a complete and utter train wreck of disaster...she doesn't want to cause anyone pain. And pain is what this secret would cause. |
lighthouse112 |
I guess she just doesn't want to hurt Lucky. Although, not telling Jason he's the father is hurting him too. and it's hurting Jason too. |
I know it's a soap but I wouldn't want to be in that situation.
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SparkApCider |
The writers are elevating this drug issue to Liz. And they are doing so by tying Lucky's sobriety to her, as if the only thing that is holding him together is the reality that she creates. |
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Starrgirlfish |
Quote SparkApCider: The writers are elevating this drug issue to Liz. And they are doing so by tying Lucky's sobriety to her, as if they only thing that is holding him together is the reality that she creates. Can one's disgust for Maxie and the 'Luxie Affair' taint or blindsight them to the reality that Lucky's addiction had nothing to do with his affair with Maxie? Maxie is a player in the facilitation of his addiction...but Lucky had a prescription long before the 'pusher' came into circle. Lucky's addiction began as a clinical dependency... And then it elevated. Lucky's depression is the result of a chain of events that began with financial debt and elevated to more financial debt and injuries... Like Maxie said, in short he has no traction. The writers are now erasing the debt, hence he is spending money on expensive dinners and buying dogs. It is now being shifted to him not having Liz in his life... Lucky's addiction has now been elevated to Liz. Yes. I am serious. Even Liz says she believes that the 'secret' will cause him to revert back. The truth is that when is recovering from an addiction, they are left to face the circumstances of their addiction, which can set back the recovery... That isn't my opinion, that is a clinical perspective aligned with what is presented on the screen. You can hate Lucky, and hate Maxie...but Lucky's problem isn't Maxie. It goes well beyond that. And you don't have to not be a fan of his to see that, you simply have to be objective. I agree. Lucky's problems didn't happen because of Maxie. It does go well beyond that. He had an addiction before Maxie came along. Although, I do think that Maxie helped the addiction go deeper and further then what it was before. She supplied him with the drugs. She did have something to do with embedding Lucky's addiction further and more deeply along then what it was before. But, Lucky is really the only person to blame for his behavior. |
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