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Sam asked...Liz are you even sorry you slepted with Jason?...
Started by soapnoitall at 2007/01/31 03:19PMLatest post: 2007/02/07 02:32PM, Views: 2144, Replies: 91
soapnoitall |
Quote toorobbin: Lucky isn't going back on pills.  He proved it to himself, when he threw away the pills he took from the bust. He still has the pills. He didn't really throw them out. He lied. You might have missed that part. |
gh3412 |
i really dont understand why people have to keep defending liz. this is ridiculous... her soul mate/ love of her life put her, her baby on the way and her toddler in harms way all the while he was doing the deed with someone the same age as his lil sister........... but i have always loved liz and lucky but no on can blame her for whats going on. You can tell how much she loves and cares for both men, not telling jason so she wont mess things up w him & sam, not telling lucky so he doesnt go back to pills. Shes not leading him on shes trying to do what she thinks is right... I mean Lucky did everything he could to protect her when she was raped maybe she feels now that she has to protect him from falling back to the pills. Liz has endured a lot of pain throughout her stay in port charles. and for her being w jason that night more power to her. |
madhearts4li... |
I totally agree..and if u look at all the many storylines..You will find that most ppl have been in a situation where they felt they needed to keep a secret or lie to protect someone they love..and even if we dont agree with their reasons..it doesnt mean they are being malicious..Liz is trying to protect Lucky and Jason..the same way that Carly has tried to protect Sonny and Jason..the same way that Sonny has tried to protect Carly..the same way that so many characters have tried to protect other characters..It happens all the time..so why everyone is making such a big deal out of Liz's secret is beyond me..Jason, Carly..let Brenda, Mike, and many others believe that Sonny was dead..for their own protection..See, sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the ones you care about..and it's not always right..but that doesnt make the person completely evil either..But right now..the way ppl are hating on Liz..she's going to be danged if she does..and danged if she doesnt..they hate her for not telling..and they will hate he when she does tell..so either way..she's going to be hated..and it's not fair..I think she's doing what she feels she needs to..a little understanding for her situation wouldnt kill ppl. |
toxflo |
Of course Liz is not sorry , and Jason's so sorry he slept with Liz, he asked her to stay with him, and they made love again, and talked all night,touching each other, holding hands not even thinking about sam .but about each other,,,, about their friendship and the trust they have and how he would miss her if she wasn't there.They turned to each other for comfort after watching their others sleeping with other people.I don't believe it was planned and making love twice was a perk. |
Starrgirlfish |
Quote toxflo: Of course Liz is not sorry , and Jason's so sorry he slept with Liz, he asked her to stay with him, and they made love again, and talked all night,touching each other, holding hands not even thinking about sam .but about each other,,,, about their friendship and the trust they have and how he would miss her if she wasn't there.They turned to each other for comfort after watching their others sleeping with other people.I don't believe it was planned and making love twice was a perk. I'm confused by your comment...so sorry if this doesn't apply.  I'm sorry. But, are you implying that Jason is sorry that he slept with Liz. You must not have seen the episode before Liz and all the others were held hostages. Because Liz and Jason were talking...and BOTH not just Liz let me make my point again....BOTH said they DIDN'T...regret their night at all. Now people can take that whatever way they want...if they like it because they are a Liason fan...or if they hate it because they're a Jasam fan. The fact still remains. Jason does not regret his night with Liz. He told that to her face. Sorry...I'm just so sick of people saying that Jason regrets his night with Liz...he doesn't...he admitted he doesn't and didn't have any regrets regarding that night. People have the right to hate that Jason doesn't regret his night with Liz...but, still.....he doesn't regret it.
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soapnoitall |
Quote gh3412: i really dont understand why people have to keep defending liz. this is ridiculous... her soul mate/ love of her life put her, her baby on the way and her toddler in harms way all the while he was doing the deed with someone the same age as his lil sister........... but i have always loved liz and lucky but no on can blame her for whats going on. You can tell how much she loves and cares for both men, not telling jason so she wont mess things up w him & sam, not telling lucky so he doesnt go back to pills. Shes not leading him on shes trying to do what she thinks is right... I mean Lucky did everything he could to protect her when she was raped maybe she feels now that she has to protect him from falling back to the pills. Liz has endured a lot of pain throughout her stay in port charles. and for her being w jason that night more power to her. I Second every bit of that! 
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soapnoitall |
Quote madhearts4liason: I totally agree..and if u look at all the many storylines..You will find that most ppl have been in a situation where they felt they needed to keep a secret or lie to protect someone they love..and even if we dont agree with their reasons..it doesnt mean they are being malicious..Liz is trying to protect Lucky and Jason..the same way that Carly has tried to protect Sonny and Jason..the same way that Sonny has tried to protect Carly..the same way that so many characters have tried to protect other characters..It happens all the time..so why everyone is making such a big deal out of Liz's secret is beyond me..Jason, Carly..let Brenda, Mike, and many others believe that Sonny was dead..for their own protection..See, sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the ones you care about..and it's not always right..but that doesnt make the person completely evil either..But right now..the way ppl are hating on Liz..she's going to be danged if she does..and danged if she doesnt..they hate her for not telling..and they will hate he when she does tell..so either way..she's going to be hated..and it's not fair..I think she's doing what she feels she needs to..a little understanding for her situation wouldnt kill ppl. I totally agree! The only reason they are harping on Liz for keeping the secret about the baby is because that is all they can come up with being Liz is so sweet considerate of others feelings they really cant find anything else to harp/complain about. |
happi |
Quote soapnoitall: Quote madhearts4liason: I totally agree..and if u look at all the many storylines..You will find that most ppl have been in a situation where they felt they needed to keep a secret or lie to protect someone they love..and even if we dont agree with their reasons..it doesnt mean they are being malicious..Liz is trying to protect Lucky and Jason..the same way that Carly has tried to protect Sonny and Jason..the same way that Sonny has tried to protect Carly..the same way that so many characters have tried to protect other characters..It happens all the time..so why everyone is making such a big deal out of Liz's secret is beyond me..Jason, Carly..let Brenda, Mike, and many others believe that Sonny was dead..for their own protection..See, sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the ones you care about..and it's not always right..but that doesnt make the person completely evil either..But right now..the way ppl are hating on Liz..she's going to be danged if she does..and danged if she doesnt..they hate her for not telling..and they will hate he when she does tell..so either way..she's going to be hated..and it's not fair..I think she's doing what she feels she needs to..a little understanding for her situation wouldnt kill ppl. I totally agree! The only reason they are harping on Liz for keeping the secret about the baby is because that is all they can come up with being Liz is so sweet considerate of others feelings they really cant find anything else to harp/complain about. i agree!!! |
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madhearts4li... |
I do feel it's a personal dislike for Liz's character..The main thing she's being hated on for..is because she is keeping a secret supposedly..but the truth is..the ppl that are hating on her..are angry because she is pregnant with Jason's baby..but she didnt get that way all by herself..she had a lil help..LOL..As for the secret..come on now..if she would have told Jason as soon as she found out..that it's his baby..would the ppl that are hating on her..feel differently..I think not. |
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Starrgirlfish |
Quote madhearts4liason: I do feel it's a personal dislike for Liz's character..The main thing she's being hated on for..is because she is keeping a secret supposedly..but the truth is..the ppl that are hating on her..are angry because she is pregnant with Jason's baby..but she didnt get that way all by herself..she had a lil help..LOL..As for the secret..come on now..if she would have told Jason as soon as she found out..that it's his baby..would the ppl that are hating on her..feel differently..I think not. Exactly, they'd still hate her just as much. They'd just say that she's using her pregnancy to get in the way of Jason and Sam. That she has this idea of marrying Jason and having a happily ever after with him. Even though, his heart they say is with Sam. I think that they'd hate Liz just as much even if she did reveal the true paternity. |
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Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote pdames4: Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote toorobbin: If Liz isn't lying, then she is certainly misleading Lucky into thinking he's the baby's father. And why does she continue to go out with him. Misleading is just as horrible as lying. ( No. Lucky going back on drugs and destroying his life and everyone around him would be more horrible in my opinion. Although, it's enivitable that in the end no matter what choice Liz makes he'll go back on drugs. She cares about him though...and doesn't want to be responsible for him doing so. pdames4:  Either way you look at it. She is wrong I think. If what you say is true, then Liz is a Co-dependent because she feels responsible for someone else's failures or accomplishments. In life, we have a choice. If Lucky decides to go back on drugs because of something he finds out that Elizabeth did, it will be on his head and his head only. If what you say is true, then Elizabeth is certainly in need of Co-dependent therapy. She needs to make an appointment with Lainey. This is not my opinion this time, it is fact. LOL I think Liz has the right to care about someone who was a huge part of her life for the longest time, and still is. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that she doesn't want Lucky to be back on drugs. The drugs completely changed Lucky's character, and Liz doesn't want that. She wants his well being. She doesn't need to go to therapy just because she doesn't want Lucky on drugs. If Liz didn't care if Lucky went back on drugs or not then that would be called selfishness. Something that Liz is NOT. JMO!! Caring about someone is different from keeping the truth from them in the name of protecting them. It is making a statement that you think they are too weak to make a difficult decison for themselves. You have made a decision about their life asnd left them totally out of the loop. That fits the description of what the DSMIV states "Co-dependent. Lucky will be very upset that Liz kept the truth from him all this time and he has every right to be. She is allowing sam asnd Jasonm to go on and make plans to be together as if nothing is different knowing full well that she is going to tell Jason at some point. She should have told Jason as soon as she found out and allowed the chips to fall as they may. What about Lucky. She is making it worse by not trelling him. the longer she waits, the more everyone is going to suffer. I hope they all tell her off for what she has done supposedly in the name of caring. In my opinion, Carly called the wrong person a "dumb twit." |
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pinkgirl |
I think Jason love Liz but he's not sure if she Love him...As for sam jason is not what she needs Jason needs Liz as Liz needs Jason...They will be Happy for ever |
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soapnoitall |
Quote pdames4: Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote pdames4: Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote toorobbin: If Liz isn't lying, then she is certainly misleading Lucky into thinking he's the baby's father. And why does she continue to go out with him. Misleading is just as horrible as lying. ( No. Lucky going back on drugs and destroying his life and everyone around him would be more horrible in my opinion. Although, it's enivitable that in the end no matter what choice Liz makes he'll go back on drugs. She cares about him though...and doesn't want to be responsible for him doing so. pdames4: Either way you look at it. She is wrong I think. If what you say is true, then Liz is a Co-dependent because she feels responsible for someone else's failures or accomplishments. In life, we have a choice. If Lucky decides to go back on drugs because of something he finds out that Elizabeth did, it will be on his head and his head only. If what you say is true, then Elizabeth is certainly in need of Co-dependent therapy. She needs to make an appointment with Lainey. This is not my opinion this time, it is fact. LOL I think Liz has the right to care about someone who was a huge part of her life for the longest time, and still is. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that she doesn't want Lucky to be back on drugs. The drugs completely changed Lucky's character, and Liz doesn't want that. She wants his well being. She doesn't need to go to therapy just because she doesn't want Lucky on drugs. If Liz didn't care if Lucky went back on drugs or not then that would be called selfishness. Something that Liz is NOT. JMO!! Caring about someone is different from keeping the truth from them in the name of protecting them. It is making a statement that you think they are too weak to make a difficult decison for themselves. You have made a decision about their life asnd left them totally out of the loop. That fits the description of what the DSMIV states "Co-dependent. Lucky will be very upset that Liz kept the truth from him all this time and he has every right to be. She is allowing sam asnd Jasonm to go on and make plans to be together as if nothing is different knowing full well that she is going to tell Jason at some point. She should have told Jason as soon as she found out and allowed the chips to fall as they may. What about Lucky. She is making it worse by not trelling him. the longer she waits, the more everyone is going to suffer. I hope they all tell her off for what she has done supposedly in the name of caring. In my opinion, Carly called the wrong person a "dumb twit." It's just like we have been saying..you Liz haters would be fussing even if she had told Jason the truth. You all know if you were watching...that every time she tried to tell Jason the truth he or someone else gave her reason not to. Things just keep getting in the way and you all know it. so stop hating! Jason tried to marry her knowing he may not even be the father, just think what he would have done if he knew he was...Then you would blame her for taking Jason from Sam...bla...bla...bla 
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Quote soapnoitall: Quote pdames4: Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote pdames4: Quote Starrgirlfish: Quote toorobbin: If Liz isn't lying, then she is certainly misleading Lucky into thinking he's the baby's father. And why does she continue to go out with him. Misleading is just as horrible as lying. ( No. Lucky going back on drugs and destroying his life and everyone around him would be more horrible in my opinion. Although, it's enivitable that in the end no matter what choice Liz makes he'll go back on drugs. She cares about him though...and doesn't want to be responsible for him doing so. pdames4: Either way you look at it. She is wrong I think. If what you say is true, then Liz is a Co-dependent because she feels responsible for someone else's failures or accomplishments. In life, we have a choice. If Lucky decides to go back on drugs because of something he finds out that Elizabeth did, it will be on his head and his head only. If what you say is true, then Elizabeth is certainly in need of Co-dependent therapy. She needs to make an appointment with Lainey. This is not my opinion this time, it is fact. LOL I think Liz has the right to care about someone who was a huge part of her life for the longest time, and still is. I don't think it's unreasonable at all that she doesn't want Lucky to be back on drugs. The drugs completely changed Lucky's character, and Liz doesn't want that. She wants his well being. She doesn't need to go to therapy just because she doesn't want Lucky on drugs. If Liz didn't care if Lucky went back on drugs or not then that would be called selfishness. Something that Liz is NOT. JMO!! Caring about someone is different from keeping the truth from them in the name of protecting them. It is making a statement that you think they are too weak to make a difficult decison for themselves. You have made a decision about their life asnd left them totally out of the loop. That fits the description of what the DSMIV states "Co-dependent. Lucky will be very upset that Liz kept the truth from him all this time and he has every right to be. She is allowing sam asnd Jasonm to go on and make plans to be together as if nothing is different knowing full well that she is going to tell Jason at some point. She should have told Jason as soon as she found out and allowed the chips to fall as they may. What about Lucky. She is making it worse by not trelling him. the longer she waits, the more everyone is going to suffer. I hope they all tell her off for what she has done supposedly in the name of caring. In my opinion, Carly called the wrong person a "dumb twit." It's just like we have been saying..you Liz haters would be fussing even if she had told Jason the truth. You all know if you were watching...that every time she tried to tell Jason the truth he or someone else gave her reason not to. Things just keep getting in the way and you all know it. so stop hating! Jason tried to marry her knowing he may not even be the father, just think what he would have done if he knew he was...Then you would blame her for taking Jason from Sam...bla...bla...bla Believe it or not, I used to feel just like you all, I just see Liz differently now. But it's all good! Who knows, you may be right. My perspective just tends to be different than you guys who love Liz, and that's okay. |
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madhearts4li... |
It's obvious that Jason cares very deeply for Liz..and vice versa..and ppl are going to hate Liz no matter what..He did offer to marry her..EVEN IF the baby isnt his..how is that obligation..would he feel obligated to marry her if she's pregnant with someone else's baby..I dont think so. It's much more than that..They have always had a connection..It's always been there..the timing has never been right..and sometimes that happens with diff characters..so the writers wait..for the perfect time..so it's very possible that the writers think that finally..it's time for Liz and Jason.. |
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