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Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
Started by DaytimeDreamer at 2008/10/28 09:23PMLatest post: 2008/10/30 03:47PM, Views: 1794, Replies: 95
#11
2008/10/29 11:49AM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
alwaysEJ |
Quote Tammer: Quote alwaysEJ: Quote meerkat1: I totally agree, Tammer. Had it been anyone else catching EJ’s eye, it would have been the same situation. I would not be a fan of anyone else EJ was paired with b/c I want him with Sami. That said, even if Nicole were having a baby with say, Philip, I wouldn't buy this sober, maternal, nursery decorating Nicole. Her baby's life & her hold on EJ are all going to be threatened & her claws will come out. She said it herself; her hold on EJ is tenuous. The only time they've been together EJ called her Samantha. That was when that baby was conceived - when EJ couldn't even remember her name. Since Nicole seems to do nothing but hang around the mansion these days, someone needs to get her a copy of that book He's Just Not That Into You to read. I don't get it, if Johnny was conceived from "rape" ( or whatever you wanna call it), it certainly wasn't the most loving way for a child to be made" and he is loved, why can't Nicole look past that STUPID name thing? Who cares, it's a far cry from what Sami had to endure while Johnny was conceived. It's obvious that she is sincere, give her credit where its due. If something happens to her baby, I can't blame her for the "claws" coming out. Right now she does not deserve this. It's not like she is faking this turn around... She is aware that EJ loves Sami, but he can't have her..so he is moving on. She has EVERY right to pursue him. BTW, why is it just Nicole you don't buy this "act" from, EJ isn't exactly an upstanding citizen himself. He is quite capable off letting his claws come out...and they will. Edited to add, he is CLEARLY into her..or he wouldn't be with her. He was into her before she even told him she was pregnant. Remember, he COULD NOT choose when Nicole asked him too. That speaks volumes. EJ is not a sap, if he didn't have feelings for Nicole, he would just throw cash her way, not move her in and promise her marriage and a life. That is just not EJ's style. You don't think Johnny is even EJ's son, right? So let's not argue about Johnny's conception since we don't even agree about when & with whom that took place. I don't like the way EJ is being written right now. I agree he thinks he can't be with Sami so he's trying to move on, but he doesn't look too happy about it most of the time. Of course he is attracted to Nicole (like he said, it's biology) & since she's pregnant he's going to try & make it work but clearly his heart is not into it. Bottom line, if you want Nicole to be a new woman & have her baby, great. If she is with EJ, Sami will always be in the picture & that means Nicole will always be on guard & Nicole will never get unconditional love from EJ. I don't like EJ, Sami, or Nicole right now. They are all more interesting when they have more of an edge to them. |
#12
2008/10/29 11:57AM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
LUMIFOREVERA... |
Quote alwaysEJ: Quote Tammer: Quote alwaysEJ: Quote meerkat1: I totally agree, Tammer. Had it been anyone else catching EJ’s eye, it would have been the same situation. I would not be a fan of anyone else EJ was paired with b/c I want him with Sami. That said, even if Nicole were having a baby with say, Philip, I wouldn't buy this sober, maternal, nursery decorating Nicole. Her baby's life & her hold on EJ are all going to be threatened & her claws will come out. She said it herself; her hold on EJ is tenuous. The only time they've been together EJ called her Samantha. That was when that baby was conceived - when EJ couldn't even remember her name. Since Nicole seems to do nothing but hang around the mansion these days, someone needs to get her a copy of that book He's Just Not That Into You to read. I don't get it, if Johnny was conceived from "rape" ( or whatever you wanna call it), it certainly wasn't the most loving way for a child to be made" and he is loved, why can't Nicole look past that STUPID name thing? Who cares, it's a far cry from what Sami had to endure while Johnny was conceived. It's obvious that she is sincere, give her credit where its due. If something happens to her baby, I can't blame her for the "claws" coming out. Right now she does not deserve this. It's not like she is faking this turn around... She is aware that EJ loves Sami, but he can't have her..so he is moving on. She has EVERY right to pursue him. BTW, why is it just Nicole you don't buy this "act" from, EJ isn't exactly an upstanding citizen himself. He is quite capable off letting his claws come out...and they will. Edited to add, he is CLEARLY into her..or he wouldn't be with her. He was into her before she even told him she was pregnant. Remember, he COULD NOT choose when Nicole asked him too. That speaks volumes. EJ is not a sap, if he didn't have feelings for Nicole, he would just throw cash her way, not move her in and promise her marriage and a life. That is just not EJ's style. You don't think Johnny is even EJ's son, right? So let's not argue about Johnny's conception since we don't even agree about when & with whom that took place. I don't like the way EJ is being written right now. I agree he thinks he can't be with Sami so he's trying to move on, but he doesn't look too happy about it most of the time. Of course he is attracted to Nicole (like he said, it's biology) & since she's pregnant he's going to try & make it work but clearly his heart is not into it. Bottom line, if you want Nicole to be a new woman & have her baby, great. If she is with EJ, Sami will always be in the picture & that means Nicole will always be on guard & Nicole will never get unconditional love from EJ. I don't like EJ, Sami, or Nicole right now. They are all more interesting when they have more of an edge to them. I just don't think that is true. If/when Ej finds out about Sami being pregnant and not telling him, I think Ej is going to see Sami in a different light and move on from her. They have only been in each others lives for two years! He will get over it..it is not like they have known and loved each other for that long, (or even admitting to loving in Sami's case..). Relationships come and go, especially on soaps, so to say that Ej will never love anyone else fully..well, let's just say I disagree. |
#13
2008/10/29 12:02PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
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alwaysEJ |
Quote LUMIFOREVERANDEVER: Quote alwaysEJ: Quote Tammer: Quote alwaysEJ: Quote meerkat1: I totally agree, Tammer. Had it been anyone else catching EJ’s eye, it would have been the same situation. I would not be a fan of anyone else EJ was paired with b/c I want him with Sami. That said, even if Nicole were having a baby with say, Philip, I wouldn't buy this sober, maternal, nursery decorating Nicole. Her baby's life & her hold on EJ are all going to be threatened & her claws will come out. She said it herself; her hold on EJ is tenuous. The only time they've been together EJ called her Samantha. That was when that baby was conceived - when EJ couldn't even remember her name. Since Nicole seems to do nothing but hang around the mansion these days, someone needs to get her a copy of that book He's Just Not That Into You to read. I don't get it, if Johnny was conceived from "rape" ( or whatever you wanna call it), it certainly wasn't the most loving way for a child to be made" and he is loved, why can't Nicole look past that STUPID name thing? Who cares, it's a far cry from what Sami had to endure while Johnny was conceived. It's obvious that she is sincere, give her credit where its due. If something happens to her baby, I can't blame her for the "claws" coming out. Right now she does not deserve this. It's not like she is faking this turn around... She is aware that EJ loves Sami, but he can't have her..so he is moving on. She has EVERY right to pursue him. BTW, why is it just Nicole you don't buy this "act" from, EJ isn't exactly an upstanding citizen himself. He is quite capable off letting his claws come out...and they will. Edited to add, he is CLEARLY into her..or he wouldn't be with her. He was into her before she even told him she was pregnant. Remember, he COULD NOT choose when Nicole asked him too. That speaks volumes. EJ is not a sap, if he didn't have feelings for Nicole, he would just throw cash her way, not move her in and promise her marriage and a life. That is just not EJ's style. You don't think Johnny is even EJ's son, right? So let's not argue about Johnny's conception since we don't even agree about when & with whom that took place. I don't like the way EJ is being written right now. I agree he thinks he can't be with Sami so he's trying to move on, but he doesn't look too happy about it most of the time. Of course he is attracted to Nicole (like he said, it's biology) & since she's pregnant he's going to try & make it work but clearly his heart is not into it. Bottom line, if you want Nicole to be a new woman & have her baby, great. If she is with EJ, Sami will always be in the picture & that means Nicole will always be on guard & Nicole will never get unconditional love from EJ. I don't like EJ, Sami, or Nicole right now. They are all more interesting when they have more of an edge to them. I just don't think that is true. If/when Ej finds out about Sami being pregnant and not telling him, I think Ej is going to see Sami in a different light and move on from her. They have only been in each others lives for two years! He will get over it..it is not like they have known and loved each other for that long, (or even admitting to loving in Sami's case..). Relationships come and go, especially on soaps, so to say that Ej will never love anyone else fully..well, let's just say I disagree. EJ & Sami always get over things...he'll be upset at first, but when he realizes Sami is having his baby, he'll be happy. If Nicole was to be the one EJ ends up, Sami's would be the pregnancy he was made aware of & Nicole would be the one being kept from him & their baby would be the big reveal. |
#14
2008/10/29 12:06PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
meerkat1 |
Quote alwaysEJ: EJ & Sami always get over things...he'll be upset at first, but when he realizes Sami is having his baby, he'll be happy. If Nicole was to be the one EJ ends up, Sami's would be the pregnancy he was made aware of & Nicole would be the one being kept from him & their baby would be the big reveal. Exactly! EJ would also understand Sami’s reason for keeping it from him, once she explained it to him. You are so right as to the latter, what would soaps be without all those trials and tribulations, after all?!? |
#15
2008/10/29 12:10PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
Tammer |
Quote alwaysEJ: Quote Tammer: Quote alwaysEJ: Quote meerkat1: I totally agree, Tammer. Had it been anyone else catching EJ’s eye, it would have been the same situation. I would not be a fan of anyone else EJ was paired with b/c I want him with Sami. That said, even if Nicole were having a baby with say, Philip, I wouldn't buy this sober, maternal, nursery decorating Nicole. Her baby's life & her hold on EJ are all going to be threatened & her claws will come out. She said it herself; her hold on EJ is tenuous. The only time they've been together EJ called her Samantha. That was when that baby was conceived - when EJ couldn't even remember her name. Since Nicole seems to do nothing but hang around the mansion these days, someone needs to get her a copy of that book He's Just Not That Into You to read. I don't get it, if Johnny was conceived from "rape" ( or whatever you wanna call it), it certainly wasn't the most loving way for a child to be made" and he is loved, why can't Nicole look past that STUPID name thing? Who cares, it's a far cry from what Sami had to endure while Johnny was conceived. It's obvious that she is sincere, give her credit where its due. If something happens to her baby, I can't blame her for the "claws" coming out. Right now she does not deserve this. It's not like she is faking this turn around... She is aware that EJ loves Sami, but he can't have her..so he is moving on. She has EVERY right to pursue him. BTW, why is it just Nicole you don't buy this "act" from, EJ isn't exactly an upstanding citizen himself. He is quite capable off letting his claws come out...and they will. Edited to add, he is CLEARLY into her..or he wouldn't be with her. He was into her before she even told him she was pregnant. Remember, he COULD NOT choose when Nicole asked him too. That speaks volumes. EJ is not a sap, if he didn't have feelings for Nicole, he would just throw cash her way, not move her in and promise her marriage and a life. That is just not EJ's style. You don't think Johnny is even EJ's son, right? So let's not argue about Johnny's conception since we don't even agree about when & with whom that took place. I don't like the way EJ is being written right now. I agree he thinks he can't be with Sami so he's trying to move on, but he doesn't look too happy about it most of the time. Of course he is attracted to Nicole (like he said, it's biology) & since she's pregnant he's going to try & make it work but clearly his heart is not into it. Bottom line, if you want Nicole to be a new woman & have her baby, great. If she is with EJ, Sami will always be in the picture & that means Nicole will always be on guard & Nicole will never get unconditional love from EJ. I don't like EJ, Sami, or Nicole right now. They are all more interesting when they have more of an edge to them. What I personally think has nothing to do with the s/l. Right now as far as they want us to know Johnny is indeed EJ's. That is what I base my opinion on...and he was conceived from rape. IMO I have never said that EJ wouldn't rather be with Sami, however Sami has put the kibosh on that. I think EJ does have feelings for Nicole, and it's not based on sex...heck they don't even have it. You may very well be surprised what EJ might choose in the end. I think we all could be. Right now Nicole is sincere, and she has never done any manipulating to get EJ. That is the bottom line. |
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#16
2008/10/29 12:15PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
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Tammer |
Quote meerkat1: Quote alwaysEJ: EJ & Sami always get over things...he'll be upset at first, but when he realizes Sami is having his baby, he'll be happy. If Nicole was to be the one EJ ends up, Sami's would be the pregnancy he was made aware of & Nicole would be the one being kept from him & their baby would be the big reveal. Exactly! EJ would also understand Sami’s reason for keeping it from him, once she explained it to him. You are so right as to the latter, what would soaps be without all those trials and tribulations, after all?!? No way! That's where we disagree. He will be furious..at least he should be. Why is it that this new baby's safety is more important than Johnny's??? I think this whole Stefano is a threat is bogus!! Johnny is at that mansion, and Sami does nothing....EJ will question why she didn't feel that he could protect this new child like he does Johnny. 
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#17
2008/10/29 12:25PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
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meerkat1 |
Quote Tammer: Quote meerkat1: Quote alwaysEJ: EJ & Sami always get over things...he'll be upset at first, but when he realizes Sami is having his baby, he'll be happy. If Nicole was to be the one EJ ends up, Sami's would be the pregnancy he was made aware of & Nicole would be the one being kept from him & their baby would be the big reveal. Exactly! EJ would also understand Sami’s reason for keeping it from him, once she explained it to him. You are so right as to the latter, what would soaps be without all those trials and tribulations, after all?!? No way! That's where we disagree. He will be furious..at least he should be. Why is it that this new baby's safety is more important than Johnny's??? I think this whole Stefano is a threat is bogus!! Johnny is at that mansion, and Sami does nothing....EJ will question why she didn't feel that he could protect this new child like he does Johnny. Oh, EJ will be livid. I’m not sure that she will tell him at all, though. I have this odd believe that she will try to give it up for adoption to get it away from Stefano. However, I do believe that EJ will ultimately come around for his Samantha, once he finds out. To me, the difference between the new baby and Johnny is that Stefano already knows about Johnny. She is trying to keep the new baby safe. |
#18
2008/10/29 12:37PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
Tune2Days |
I just got through watching todays show...and to me..it was all JR trying to "get" Nicole.. |
#19
2008/10/29 12:48PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
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meerkat1 |
Quote Tune2Days: I just got through watching todays show...and to me..it was all JR trying to "get" Nicole.. He is pushing marriage and family..Nicole is not jumping.. Nicole would rather be happy alone with her baby.. Then be a pawn for Dimera's...  I dont like JR at all..never cared for Nicole..but I like her now.. JR will be a real jerk to not accept her love..because he is just pitiful and too obsessive with Sami...  Good for Nicole. I love that she is being strong and reliant on herself. |
#20
2008/10/29 04:15PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
dhstes1973 |
Question for Tammer, please? |
#21
2008/10/29 04:19PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
bghwme |
I think EJ does know about Sami's new baby. I think he guessed it the night little Johnny touched his mommies tummy and said "baby." |
#22
2008/10/29 04:26PM
Re: Things seem to be going downhill for Nicole...fast
starrb |
Quote alwaysEJ: Quote meerkat1: I totally agree, Tammer. Had it been anyone else catching EJ’s eye, it would have been the same situation. I would not be a fan of anyone else EJ was paired with b/c I want him with Sami. That said, even if Nicole were having a baby with say, Philip, I wouldn't buy this sober, maternal, nursery decorating Nicole. Her baby's life & her hold on EJ are all going to be threatened & her claws will come out. She said it herself; her hold on EJ is tenuous. The only time they've been together EJ called her Samantha. That was when that baby was conceived - when EJ couldn't even remember her name. Since Nicole seems to do nothing but hang around the mansion these days, someone needs to get her a copy of that book He's Just Not That Into You to read. lol that is soo true  that book is the perfect fit:) i cant think of more fitting advice for that girl.
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#23
2008/10/29 04:26PM
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Tammer |
Quote dhstes1973: Question for Tammer, please? I don't know if I can ask a question here but if it doesn't go through that is ok. I can tell you really like Nicole, so do I. We kinda went back and forth on the 'Nicole' thread. Remember I said that I like Nicole as the bad girl. My question is: If all of a sudden Sami came back from the safe house within the next few days and told EJ that she was pregnant; do you really think that he would stay with Nicole? I want Nicole to find happiness also but I just can't see it happening with EJ. He is one fine hunk of a man and a great catch on top of that but I truly think that if he had to choose between the two women it would be Sami. That would absolutely break Nicole's heart. I can't see the happily everafter with him for her. This is just MO but I do think things are going to go downhill for Nicole if she stays with EJ. I think if she stays with EJ she will end up right back where she was in the beginning. Sure you can ask me a question, anytime. Ok heres what I think. EJ had a chance to choose one of them, he couldn't. He told Nicole that he has feelings for both women, before Nic told him she was having his baby(clearly he does). Nic accepted that and walked away. She wanted all or nothing. Good for her. Now, I have never said EJ loves Nic more than Sami, again that would be silly. I haven't heard him use the word love to Nic...am I wrong on that? Please let me know. I believe he is sick to death of Sami and her pushing him away, he, right now is ready to move on. Do I think he won't try again with Sami? Of course not. I do however think he will be furious with her, and I'm not sure he will let her walk all over him anymore! I like Nicole yes, but I have also stated that it isn't because I want Nicole to be with EJ...I just want her to have her baby, and get some much needed happiness in her sad, sad life. Frankly I don't care who is with EJ as long as Lucas& Sami are together. Which in the end they will be. So I hope I have answered your question..if not let me know I'll try again. 
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#24
2008/10/29 04:30PM
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Tammer |
Quote bghwme: I think EJ does know about Sami's new baby. I think he guessed it the night little Johnny touched his mommies tummy and said "baby." I think EJ has been lying to Nicole. He is also now messing with her head talking about marriage when he has no intention of marrying her, just to test her. Mark my words. EJ is up to something. He has a plan. Sorry, I think that is wishful thinking. Johnny is a year old...I'm sure EJ didn't get that from him saying "baby" I don't think he is messing with Nicole...why would he be? What would he gain? Nothing. Nicole hasn't done anything wrong to him. I think he truly wants to move on...or he at least thinks he does. There is no way he would let Sami go without telling her he knows about her pregnancy. No way in hell. Why would he?
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#25
2008/10/29 04:54PM
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Tune2Days |
I think..If JR "played" Nicole by acting as if he cares by moving her in..faking a proposal..he would be more slimy and evil than even I think he is... |
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