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Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???

Started by Percy988 at 2008/08/26 09:59AM
Latest post: 2008/09/08 12:26PM, Views: 1458, Replies: 64
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#21   2008/08/27 01:03PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
JTsahottie
JTsahottie

Quote LUMIFOREVERANDEVER:
Quote Bryceson:
Quote LUMIFOREVERANDEVER:
Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.


i don't think Ej is going to go to court and sing Sami's praises or else the papers he filed would be null and void and Sami would be free to leave the mansion with her son. Remember, Ej was trying to prove that Sami is not a good parent and therefore could not leave with his son, so I don't think he will be defending Sami on this one or he will have egg all over his face.
Besides, Sami has a record a mile long anyway. Her crimes out do Lucas's any day of the week. If character witnesses are called into play, I think Sami would go down, big time. Let's just get the Chief of Staff at the hospital to testify aganist her as well as the other people Sami has plotted aganist in the past and she wouldn't have a prayer...well, Ali would probably end up in foster care..LOL


Actually EJ was not trying to prove Sami and unfit mother but to prevent her from doing exactly what she tied to do which was leave the house with Johnny and what Lucas is now trying to do in regards to Ali. He clearly stated that the court order only prevented her from leaving the house with Johnny till custody could be determined.

Lucas should have rights to his daughter, but he has no right to ask for full custody, Sami has been a good mother to her twins and Lucas needs to appreciate that.


That day, he was talking about her behavior in the past and present. That was the day he threw her past in her face (I just remember that because Ej fans say he never does that). To me, that was saying that she was not a good enough parent to keep the children on her own. That is what I got out of the court order...and didn't he bribe a judge to get that (I know, OT, but had to throw that in..LOL) I do agree asking for sole custody is way too much, but joint is very reasonable. I really think he is asking for sole to keep Ali away from the Dimeras and who can blame him for that?



That's right he said she wasn't the best parent and the environment was not conducive to raising his child. He basically said she was in no condition to have custody of his child.

but as for Lucas and Sami he should have joint custody which brings me to a spoiler..*********







Next week the judge rules that they will have joint custody but Sami will throw a fit and refuses to share custody with Lucas. So I guess she's back to her childish ways huh?

#22   2008/08/27 01:18PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tune2Days
Tune2Days

Great spoiler JT...I hope this makes them sit down and discuss this further...
I still hope Frankie comes back as Lucas's lawyer...
I dont like Mickey doing it since he hired..JR...


~* Lumi is family*~

#23   2008/08/28 06:12AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Dayz_Faze
Dayz_Faze

EJ doesn't work for Mickey any more, he left to work for John. I have always loved Sami maybe because I am always so surprised when she changes her position on things. She wants Lucas in Ali's life but doesn't want shared custody????? What's with that.

#24   2008/08/28 06:38AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER

Quote Dayz_Faze: EJ doesn't work for Mickey any more, he left to work for John. I have always loved Sami maybe because I am always so surprised when she changes her position on things. She wants Lucas in Ali's life but doesn't want shared custody????? What's with that.

Good Point!

#25   2008/08/28 11:08AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tune2Days
Tune2Days

I know the writers flip flopped Mickey and Maggie too... who we all know would stand by Lucas..and really not have hired JR...
Since Mickey did hire him..Id feel uncomfortable having him defend Lucas against JR...
ohhh..and maybe I just really want Frankie to be Lucas's lawyer..haha..I dunno...

#26   2008/08/30 06:34PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
wenel
wenel

I agree that any good father would ask for custody of their child. I understand Stephano is on the run and Lucas should be worried. But based on his current crimal history no judge in their right mind would give full nor joint custody to him. The maxium prison thing was an undercover operation but the fact remains Lucas went to jail for Attempted Murder, Resisting Arrest, trying to Flee the Country because there was an arrest warrant out for him and 3 counts of breaking house arrest. The judge isn't going to know how dangerous Stephano is. The judge will be looking at paper and that will show Lucas is a danger to Ali.

Also Sami is trying to work things out so they aren't fighting over Ali like they did with Will. Lucas is the one who is being a jerk because he wants to fight for custody of Ali, it is all or nothing with him. That to me sounds like he is selfish and fighting Sami because she slept with EJ. Lucas is out to punish Sami not protect Ali.

#27   2008/09/01 08:21AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Canadianprincess1984
Canadianprincess1984

Quote wenel: I agree that any good father would ask for custody of their child. I understand Stephano is on the run and Lucas should be worried. But based on his current crimal history no judge in their right mind would give full nor joint custody to him. The maxium prison thing was an undercover operation but the fact remains Lucas went to jail for Attempted Murder, Resisting Arrest, trying to Flee the Country because there was an arrest warrant out for him and 3 counts of breaking house arrest. The judge isn't going to know how dangerous Stephano is. The judge will be looking at paper and that will show Lucas is a danger to Ali.

Also Sami is trying to work things out so they aren't fighting over Ali like they did with Will. Lucas is the one who is being a jerk because he wants to fight for custody of Ali, it is all or nothing with him. That to me sounds like he is selfish and fighting Sami because she slept with EJ. Lucas is out to punish Sami not protect Ali.


Amen!!!

#28   2008/09/01 04:12PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
bghwme
bghwme

Sami is in a bad predicament. If she leaves the mansion, she loses Johnny; if she does not leave, she loses Ali.

These men, both of which she presumably "loves" are using her children to hurt her, control her, manipulate her.

She probably throws a fit because Lucas is planning on taking the Baby and going to Maggie's cabin with Chloe! Sorry, but Ali barely knows Lucas. He has spent most of Ali's life in jail; and pushing Sami away, I might add.

If he had not spent all his time telling her to "move on" and refusing to see her when she really, really needed to talk to him; then she would never have slept with E.J. She was literally BEGGING to see him and he just kept saying NO. And all the while, EJ was the one who was there for her, helping her and letting her lean on him.

One of the Spoilers says that Sami gets arrested..I'm thinkin' it's because she refuses to let Lucas have Ali after he is awarded joint custody; and that would be contempt of court.

Chloe does not strike me as mother material right now. I hope they end up with BOTH twins at that cabin. There will be no romancin' takin' place in that situation. I hope the twins scream and cry "I want my mommy!" the whole time.LOL

Sami needs a break anyway. She should let EJ have sole responsibiltiy for Johnny for a couple of weeks, and Lucas have sole responsibility for Ali for a couple of weeks; and take some time to figure out what she wants and where her life is headed.

#29   2008/09/03 08:02PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
daysbaby
daysbaby

Quote Brie81: Sami needs to take both her kids and get the heck out of the mansion..she should have done that a long time ago.
Lucas has every right to think about his daughter and wanting full custody of Allie.
Yes he was in prison and yes he might have done some dumb things but if we look at it that way, than Sami dont need any of her Kids..since her record aint clean either. Lucas did what he did to Protect his family.
He would never hurt Allie, he only wants what is best for her.
Sami on the other hand dont know what she wants and being in the mansion aint the greates Idea.
Lucas is very mad at her for what she did and I dont blame him she has done nothing but keep both men on strings and pulled whenever she needed one or the other...not saying that he has the right to call her names...but I dont think he ever said that with Allie right there with them in the room. Now im not bashing anyone for there oppinions...this is just mine.

#30   2008/09/03 08:12PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
daysbaby
daysbaby

Sami can't leave the mansion. She tried that a few weeks ago and EJ slapped a restraining order on her that she can't take Johnnie out of the house, remember? Sami may appear to be playing two men against the other, but both these men are totally dictating what she does with her children, if she tries to leave EJ, he threatens her with Johnnie, if she ticks Lucus off, he threatens her with Alli. I wish the writers would wake up and do some research on the subject matter. Lucus can't just walk in and take Alli, they are divorced, if there was no visitation set up in the divorce, then he has none since Sami has been the custodial parent while he was in jail. Then there is EJ. He never filed a paternity suit and she was married to Lucus at the time that the children were born, therefore, there is a presumption of parentage that Lucas is Johnnie's father, even with the DNA tests, EJ would have to have filed a lawsuit and established parernity through the Court. He started a lawsuit, but then Sami agreed to divorce Lucas and marry him, it was never shown that he established his paternity. There, that's what I have been yelling at the TV for about the last year when all this started with the two baby daddy's!! Sorry this is so long.

#31   2008/09/03 08:13PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
cpmorpheous
cpmorpheous

Does Sami know yet that her and EJ are officially DIVORCED??? Just wondering haven't watched the show in a little while!!!!!!!!

#32   2008/09/03 09:29PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
iheartdool
iheartdool

Oh jeesh! I dont even want to get started on this subject. Now, Im gonna put it out there, I am an Ejami fan, but my opinions on this particular subject are completely objective. Lucas must be a complete idiot to think he could even threathen Sami about custody!!! First of all theres the whole "Jail for attempted murder thing" (no biggy right?! ) And lets not forget Lucass temper. Either way!! Even if his temper wasnt bad, the courts frown upon the father if the parents are not together, not to be sexist, but thats just how it is in the real world. They always favor the mother, unless there is reason not to. Sami has been a good mother. And she deffinately didnt just get out of Jail, for trying to kill someone. (we wont bring up her past) Really lets be honest here, the way Lucas walked out of the room when Ali was sitting there all by herself, was just unexceptable. ANYTHING could have happened to her. At least Sami never let anything like that happen. Hes not a very good father! He just wishes he was and taking his daughter away from her mother, is not a good way to start being a father. Im a little heated about this s/l as you can tell. *whew* Its okay, its just a soap.

#33   2008/09/04 05:26AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER

I for one am glad that Lucas is getting joint custody of his daughter. He thought his life was over when he was in jail and that is why he pushed his family away. If you love someone, sometimes you have to let them go and that is what Lucas was trying to do when he refused Sami and Ali visitation. I hated that he did that, but I can understand it. I can also understand why Lucas would want to spend time with his daughter, who he has been away from most of her life, but I disagree with this way of thinking. I think if he would have called Sami and said he wanted a few days with his daughter or he wanted to talk about custody, then she would have sat down to do it (maybe not, but wishful thinking). You get more flies with honey instead of vinegar and that is the way he should have approached it. I am glad the courts are siding with Lucas and there is nothing Ej can do about it. Looks like he was a little slow taking out his wallet this time. (*Johnny's custody)

#34   2008/09/04 02:47PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tune2Days
Tune2Days

All this huffing and puffing..rants about Lucas wanting custody of his daughter are just laughable..
Not long ago Jr was mouthing about whisking Johnny off to Italy... against Sami's wishes...he also came up with some fake..court order to hold Sami captive again in the mansion..or what..she would lose Johnny...
Attempted murder on your wife's rapist..is pretty justifiable.. a man who stands up to protect the woman he loves..had it been any other character that did that they would get praise...
But the obsession rolls on...
If jail time meant that people lost custody of their children the world would be full of even more children with no parents..
Also its pretty laughable to think that JR was boasting he would protect the babies..from Stefano his excuse to be in the safe house...and now he forces Sami to live in the same house with him..?...hahaha BIZARRE
Both men would be real losers to use these kids as pawns to win Sami...and JR is no better for his games of manipulation..
what a total hypocrite to throw that in Stefano's face..what the hell does he think he is..?..he has does the same things..and Stefano was in a coma during his last manipulations...
ahh what a good boy...
When Sami realizes Johnny isnt Jr's spawn..which is obvious since Stefano really doesnt seem to care about Johnny right now...
She will run to Lucas...faster than JR can blink..an eye...

I just hope this time we get a real trial..not JR's fake documents..
Reality is..you have to go before a judge..chits just arent handed out...

This whole plot is pretty wack...
Anyone with a sound mind would want those kids..out of the crazy manor...

~* Lumi is family*~

#35   2008/09/04 03:20PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tammer
Tammer

Quote iheartdool: Oh jeesh! I dont even want to get started on this subject. Now, Im gonna put it out there, I am an Ejami fan, but my opinions on this particular subject are completely objective. Lucas must be a complete idiot to think he could even threathen Sami about custody!!! First of all theres the whole "Jail for attempted murder thing" (no biggy right?! ) And lets not forget Lucass temper. Either way!! Even if his temper wasnt bad, the courts frown upon the father if the parents are not together, not to be sexist, but thats just how it is in the real world. They always favor the mother, unless there is reason not to. Sami has been a good mother. And she deffinately didnt just get out of Jail, for trying to kill someone. (we wont bring up her past) Really lets be honest here, the way Lucas walked out of the room when Ali was sitting there all by herself, was just unexceptable. ANYTHING could have happened to her. At least Sami never let anything like that happen. Hes not a very good father! He just wishes he was and taking his daughter away from her mother, is not a good way to start being a father. Im a little heated about this s/l as you can tell. *whew* Its okay, its just a soap.


I think Lucas has every right to expect custody of his daughter! Or at least joint. Why shouldn't he? He is no worse than Sami or EJ. They have all done not so legal acts. EJ has shot, poisoned, murdered..need I go on. Sami has a list of crimes as well.
Lucas is a great father!
EVERY parent has walked out of the room leaving their child alone for a short time. He went to get a doll..30 seconds at best, that does not make him an irresponsible father.

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