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Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???

Started by Percy988 at 2008/08/26 09:59AM
Latest post: 2008/09/08 12:26PM, Views: 1459, Replies: 64
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#11   2008/08/26 07:18PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
DaysPossessed
DaysPossessed

Of course he has every right to seek custody of his daughter. All things considered.

I hate the way they are writing it in.

This is not a conversation that EJ needs to be in on unless he is counsel to one of them. And Lucas would be better off having been more civil about it.

He still needs to calm down..after all he called his daughter's mother a wh0re and that is over the top.

#12   2008/08/26 09:07PM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
briebrie
briebrie

Quote Mint: Wow! Really good arguments! Bryceson, you made a good point about Lucas not being safe either.

I agree that they should have joint custody. I hate it when we see fighting over children. It usually ends up being about one parent trying to hurt the other instead of really doing what is best for the child.


ITA. The tired and repetitive custody battle is a storyline that I could do without. It is far fetched for Lucas to think he can get sole custody, but I see his side of things. Stefano's crazy. I'd want my baby far, far away from him. But yeah, Bryceson's right in that Lucas isn't exactly safe from Stefano either.

#13   2008/08/27 06:56AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
H.R.
H.R.

OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.

#14   2008/08/27 08:09AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Dayz_Faze
Dayz_Faze

Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.




Good point, I don't think in any state Lucas would be given full custody because of his criminal record, even if his sentence was commuted. BUT....

The sensible thing would be for Lucas to ask for shared custody, and the sensible thing for Sami would be to accept shared custody, especially since Sami doesn't want to take Ali from her father. But this is a soap and without the fighting and bad decisions there would be no drauma and no basis for the soap. So, we have to grin and bear this story line, probably forever!

#15   2008/08/27 09:01AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER

Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.


i don't think Ej is going to go to court and sing Sami's praises or else the papers he filed would be null and void and Sami would be free to leave the mansion with her son. Remember, Ej was trying to prove that Sami is not a good parent and therefore could not leave with his son, so I don't think he will be defending Sami on this one or he will have egg all over his face.

Besides, Sami has a record a mile long anyway. Her crimes out do Lucas's any day of the week. If character witnesses are called into play, I think Sami would go down, big time. Let's just get the Chief of Staff at the hospital to testify aganist her as well as the other people Sami has plotted aganist in the past and she wouldn't have a prayer...well, Ali would probably end up in foster care..LOL

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#16   2008/08/27 09:19AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Brie81
Brie81

Sami needs to take both her kids and get the heck out of the mansion..she should have done that a long time ago.
Lucas has every right to think about his daughter and wanting full custody of Allie.
Yes he was in prison and yes he might have done some dumb things but if we look at it that way, than Sami dont need any of her Kids..since her record aint clean either. Lucas did what he did to Protect his family.
He would never hurt Allie, he only wants what is best for her.
Sami on the other hand dont know what she wants and being in the mansion aint the greates Idea.
Lucas is very mad at her for what she did and I dont blame him she has done nothing but keep both men on strings and pulled whenever she needed one or the other...not saying that he has the right to call her names...but I dont think he ever said that with Allie right there with them in the room. Now im not bashing anyone for there oppinions...this is just mine.

#17   2008/08/27 09:51AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Sherlindrea
Sherlindrea

I think Lucas needs to calm down and stop barging into the mansion demanding to see Allie at all hours of the day/night. Can't he and Sami make better arrangements so he gets to spend quality time with his daughter while laying off all that arguing.

Sami acted mature about the whole situation. She's the one who suggested joint custody, whereas Lucas simply wants to take Allie away all the time. His "I'm gonna call Micky right now" came off like "I'll tell mom on you"... very immature. I like how Sami said that she "isn't going to play tug-of-war with Lucas" like she did in the past... very mature, girl. Who knows, it could get ugly down the road, but at least she's doing what she can to prevent it.

#18   2008/08/27 09:54AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Dool215
Dool215

I think Lucas has rights and so does Sami I just think Lucas is going about this all wrong!!! He is starting fire with fire!

JMO

#19   2008/08/27 09:58AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Sherlindrea
Sherlindrea

D'oh. Well said... lol... you summed up my thoughts better than I could.

Quote Dool215: I think Lucas has rights and so does Sami I just think Lucas is going about this all wrong!!! He is starting fire with fire!

JMO

#20   2008/08/27 10:14AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tammer
Tammer

Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.


No one is saying Sami is unfit. They are both convicts. He has every right to want his daughter, even if he is a convict. It doesn't make him an unfit father.

#21   2008/08/27 10:28AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Dayz_Faze
Dayz_Faze

Did Sami have criminal charges? I really can't remember, but I do think she has been clean longer than Lucas and that matters in real life custody matters. But, Lucas should have equal rights in seeing his daughter at reasonable times.

I just had a thought, if Lexi is now chief of staff, Sami should be head of the medial records department.

#22   2008/08/27 10:32AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Bryceson
Bryceson

Quote LUMIFOREVERANDEVER:
Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.


i don't think Ej is going to go to court and sing Sami's praises or else the papers he filed would be null and void and Sami would be free to leave the mansion with her son. Remember, Ej was trying to prove that Sami is not a good parent and therefore could not leave with his son, so I don't think he will be defending Sami on this one or he will have egg all over his face.
Besides, Sami has a record a mile long anyway. Her crimes out do Lucas's any day of the week. If character witnesses are called into play, I think Sami would go down, big time. Let's just get the Chief of Staff at the hospital to testify aganist her as well as the other people Sami has plotted aganist in the past and she wouldn't have a prayer...well, Ali would probably end up in foster care..LOL


Actually EJ was not trying to prove Sami and unfit mother but to prevent her from doing exactly what she tied to do which was leave the house with Johnny and what Lucas is now trying to do in regards to Ali. He clearly stated that the court order only prevented her from leaving the house with Johnny till custody could be determined.

Lucas should have rights to his daughter, but he has no right to ask for full custody, Sami has been a good mother to her twins and Lucas needs to appreciate that.

#23   2008/08/27 11:03AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
geew1992
geew1992

The point is that Allie is in harms way if Stefano moves in. Although I believe Lucas wants Allie because of EJ, saying she isn't safe there is very true. Yes Stefano can get his hands on Allie anytime he wants. We know that. But it won't be easy access.

As far as saying Lucas shouldn't be with Allie because he is a convicted criminal is unfair to say. Although it was never said, we all assume he was protecting his son. That to me is the signs of a good father. Sami is no so innocent either. She may have never did time, but that doesn't make her any better.

I say they should have joint custody though.

#24   2008/08/27 11:22AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER
LUMIFOREVERANDEVER

Quote Bryceson:
Quote LUMIFOREVERANDEVER:
Quote H.R.: OMG--I can not believe you guys are actually talking about this. it doesn't matter which prison lucas went to HE WAS IN PRISON AND HE IS A CONVICT!! it doesn't matter who really shot EJ because LUCAS CONFESSED TO SHOOTING HIM! and besides all that, Sami is not an unfit mother which i'm sure EJ will prove. also, LUCAS DOESN'T HAVE A HOME!!!!! what's he going to tell the judge i'll get a house, oh, after i find a job..but in the mean time me & my daughter will shack up with my new girlfriend (who also has no job or money) in a hotel with no yard to play in because it's just so wrong for her to be with a good mother and EJ whom is a lawyer (who has a job) and live that big mansion. i mean really come on.


i don't think Ej is going to go to court and sing Sami's praises or else the papers he filed would be null and void and Sami would be free to leave the mansion with her son. Remember, Ej was trying to prove that Sami is not a good parent and therefore could not leave with his son, so I don't think he will be defending Sami on this one or he will have egg all over his face.
Besides, Sami has a record a mile long anyway. Her crimes out do Lucas's any day of the week. If character witnesses are called into play, I think Sami would go down, big time. Let's just get the Chief of Staff at the hospital to testify aganist her as well as the other people Sami has plotted aganist in the past and she wouldn't have a prayer...well, Ali would probably end up in foster care..LOL


Actually EJ was not trying to prove Sami and unfit mother but to prevent her from doing exactly what she tied to do which was leave the house with Johnny and what Lucas is now trying to do in regards to Ali. He clearly stated that the court order only prevented her from leaving the house with Johnny till custody could be determined.

Lucas should have rights to his daughter, but he has no right to ask for full custody, Sami has been a good mother to her twins and Lucas needs to appreciate that.


That day, he was talking about her behavior in the past and present. That was the day he threw her past in her face (I just remember that because Ej fans say he never does that). To me, that was saying that she was not a good enough parent to keep the children on her own. That is what I got out of the court order...and didn't he bribe a judge to get that (I know, OT, but had to throw that in..LOL) I do agree asking for sole custody is way too much, but joint is very reasonable. I really think he is asking for sole to keep Ali away from the Dimeras and who can blame him for that?

#25   2008/08/27 11:25AM
Re: Lucas trying to get custody of Allie???
Tammer
Tammer

Quote Dayz_Faze: Did Sami have criminal charges? I really can't remember, but I do think she has been clean longer than Lucas and that matters in real life custody matters. But, Lucas should have equal rights in seeing his daughter at reasonable times.

I just had a thought, if Lexi is now chief of staff, Sami should be head of the medial records department.


Well does it really make a difference? ALL of them have committed horrible crimes...just because or if one hasn't been legally charged with it, doesn't "clear" them of it. What Lucas did is no worse than or even less worse than what Sami or EJ have done. It doesn't make him a bad father, and it doesn't take away his rights as a father.

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