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The "Sami and Lucas" thread. (Free from character bashing!)

Started by Chrissi at 2007/08/08 11:49AM
Latest post: 2009/01/08 06:59AM, Views: 128391, Replies: 3014
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#1661   2008/08/23 08:42AM
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holamsa, Welcome to our board Wow, I just love everything you wrote. You are 100% completely right!! I feel the same way that you do about everything. You have said it all. You too as always, Greatbear! I hope to see more of you around here holamsa
Lumi is Family!!

#1662   2008/08/23 10:44AM
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Just wanted to stop in and give some LUMI LOVE, "holamsa" welcome aboard the LUMI-Train which is destined to be reunited. What you wrote, reiterates what all LUMIS feel and you stated it so eloquently and with facts. It brought a smile to my face to see that there are so many of us out here, everyone does not blog, but that does not mean we(LUMIS) do not have gi-normous numbers. We just have to let TPTB know we are mad as He!! and we are not going to take this hogwash that they are serving up, and ITA with GB "BRAVO" on your post. Always Remembering ***LUMI IS FAMILY***

#1663   2008/08/23 11:16AM
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Good morning everyone. Hope all is well with you and yours.
***Spoiler Alert***
Sami is not going to be pleased with the end results of her
battle with Lucas and will turn to EJ for support. However,
EJ is not ready to give up on Nicole. Nicole's divorce settlement is at risk when the truth is revealed about Trent. Lucas and Chloie's romance will be interrupted by an unwelcome visitor. ***end of spoiler**
Hopefully Nicole will keep Sami and EJ apart so Sami doesn't
make any stupid mistakes to spite Lucas. I think what the spoiler is referring to is custody of Ali. After all isn't that what they were about to argue about? I hope Nicole has
to give her settlement back, that means EJ has to pay his fee back too, because she was never legally married to Victor. She shoudln't have gotten anything to begin with for trying to kill Victor. If EJ was so much in love with Sami, he would not be giving any attention to Nicole. Sami needs to wake up! Sami needs to back off and concentrate on her children and forget about men for a while. She needs to try to reach out to Will and establish a relationship with him. She needs to take a good hard look at everything that has taken place and all the lies and threats and terror that EJ has caused her and her family and put things in perspective. As for Lucas given time I think he will chose family and Sami but she will have to be clear of EJ first.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***

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#1664   2008/08/23 02:30PM
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Quote Greatbear100: Good morning everyone. Hope all is well with you and yours.
***Spoiler Alert***
Sami is not going to be pleased with the end results of her
battle with Lucas and will turn to EJ for support. However,
EJ is not ready to give up on Nicole. Nicole's divorce settlement is at risk when the truth is revealed about Trent. Lucas and Chloie's romance will be interrupted by an unwelcome visitor. ***end of spoiler**
Hopefully Nicole will keep Sami and EJ apart so Sami doesn't
make any stupid mistakes to spite Lucas. I think what the spoiler is referring to is custody of Ali. After all isn't that what they were about to argue about? I hope Nicole has
to give her settlement back, that means EJ has to pay his fee back too, because she was never legally married to Victor. She shoudln't have gotten anything to begin with for trying to kill Victor. If EJ was so much in love with Sami, he would not be giving any attention to Nicole. Sami needs to wake up! Sami needs to back off and concentrate on her children and forget about men for a while. She needs to try to reach out to Will and establish a relationship with him. She needs to take a good hard look at everything that has taken place and all the lies and threats and terror that EJ has caused her and her family and put things in perspective. As for Lucas given time I think he will chose family and Sami but she will have to be clear of EJ first.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***



GB, the writing for this SL really suck in more ways than one; first you have Sami bowing down to EJ and not even try to fight this supposedly court order that wouldn't allow her to leave the mansion with the twins,and bowing yet again when EJ threatened to take Johnny away,(she NEVER sought a lawyer) but now according to the writers, she (fights) turns to EJ for support??? Hopefully this will spell the end for EJAMI, if EJ puts Sami on the back burner to help Nicole, Sami will definitely be left out in the cold, which is good. She needs to be ALONE for a while and concentrate on her kids, then maybe after being alone she can evaluate what makes a family; not lies and manipulation, but honesty, support, and true love.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***

#1665   2008/08/23 03:33PM
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Hey Holamsa Welcome to our thread. You'll love it here and you took the words right out of my mouth. You should send that post to TPTB on the NBC website. heck if you let me I'll send it. You're certainly speaking for a whole lot of us who are completely hating what this show has become.
Post with us often and I am really serious about you sending the writers this post.

Lumi is family!

#1666   2008/08/23 03:36PM
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Quote JTsahottie: Hey Holamsa Welcome to our thread. You'll love it here and you took the words right out of my mouth. You should send that post to TPTB on the NBC website. heck if you let me I'll send it. You're certainly speaking for a whole lot of us who are completely hating what this show has become.
Post with us often and I am really serious about you sending the writers this post.

Lumi is family!


I second that!!

LUMI is Family!!

#1667   2008/08/23 08:28PM
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Hey guys found this video of Lumi. Its new. I needed a good cry. You'll love it and it totally confirms why I love Lumi.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Vys8XSRlY

#1668   2008/08/24 05:21AM
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Quote Greatbear100:
Quote holamsa: This is my first day on these boards, and I was so happy to see that there are so many Lucas and Sami fans. I am so tired of the boards overflowing with Ej fans. (I mean, I like the character of Ej for the show, same as I like the Stefano character, but that doesn't mean I want either of them with Sami or Marlena.) Finally, there are some people that agree with what I have been thinking over the last year about the ridiculous pairing of Sami & Ej.

First of all I want to say welcome to the board holamsa. And second I agree with you both, but have one thing to add, when the writers, tried to explain away Ej raping Sami, it is just like slapping rape victims in the face. I was raped in a very similat manner, and was very insulted by this feeble attempt. Rape is rape, and you can`t whitwash it, its always been a violent crime, and always will be. No it`s not blackmail. Blackmail is moreless considered taking money off some one, for hiding information, Ej raped and than blackmailed her also. Blackmailed to keep her quiet. The way this show is now, why would a mother want their young children to watch it. If the show would continue down the road, they may not have any long time viewers, because if I had young children in the house, I wouldn`t want them to see Ej breaking laws and getting away with them for 2 years. Childrens minds are so impressable, they need to see people getting punished for their crimes. JMO.Blin. "Lumi is family"

How Sami could overlook the fact Ej tried to kill so many of her family members, forcing her into sex/raping her, not being willing to help Lucas or anyone else in her family by convincing Stefano to end the Vendetta unless he got what he wanted, constantly butting into her life & threatening her, blackmailing her into divorcing the man she loved & marrying him... I have been so frustrated the last several months thinking everyone was going crazy in accepting that Sami could allow a murderer, lier, torturer, rapist, extortionist/blackmailer...DiMera (in every sense of the name, not by blood or name only like other characters on the show) not only into her home, but also into her family and her bed.

I know Ej has lots of fans, but the storyline is so unbelievable and twisted. As I said, I like Ej, but just not with Sami. He is an excellent villain, and I might like him redeemed, but with someone else like Nicole, Ava or Chloe, etc., just NOT Sami. I was sick to my stomach from the very beginning of it.

I was happy when Sami and Lucas finally got through a wedding, but then disgusted with how their marriage continually seemed to be about Ej. I didn't buy it when she rushed to his side in the hospital countless times, but didn't seem to care about Lucas' recovery after she shot him. What have the writer's gotten the characters into? I have all along, even before the evidence at the cabin or the other suspects were announced, believed that Will was Ej's shooter. Until I saw Stefano's reaction, I even thought he might have arranged it as a way to play on Sami's sympathy, but that happened anyway.

I also have always believed that Johnny being Ej's son was fixed too, since Rolf originally said he was not, and that is something he would not lie about, but something that Ej and Stefano would. I have been upset that Ej never got caught for the murder of Eve Michaels (the police officer) or any of the black gloved crimes, or the attempted murder of John and Lucas or his desire to murder Will or Belle.

How Ejami fans can claim he loves Sami after all he has done to her family and loved ones is beyond me. The only feelings she has ever had for Ej are out of guilt or manipulation. If she knew the true Ej, she would not allow him near her kids, father or not. The fact she does know he raped her and was doing Stefano's dirty work is more than enough for her to stay away from him.

The little apology recently from Ej was a joke and Sami's comparison to what happened between her and Austin was a lame excuse for the writer's to get Sami & Ej into bed. When Sami drugged Austin, she was a self conscious disturbed teenager who had recently been raped herself. She had a huge crush on Austin and wanted him to like her. On the night of the "rape", she did slip something into his drink, undressed and laid next to him, but it was Austin that took off his own clothes and actually initiated their "lovemaking" - he was not forced, he was confused, actually saying "I love you" and performing the act of "love" with Sami thinking she was Carrie. Sami being immature and obsessed went along with it, because it was what she wanted to hear/do. If Austin was not a "willing" participant (just not to the person he was imagining Sami was), nothing could/would have happened. It's not like Sami jumped on top of him with a weapon or threat to hurt Carrie or grabbed his privates forcing him to cooperate (sorry for the graphic description, just trying to make a point).

There is a huge difference in these rapes. Maybe Austin would not have "made love" to Sami (in his mind Carrie) if he wasn't under the influence of the drugs, but Sami did not have a gun like Ej and was not threatening or blackmailing him. She also was not telling Ej she loved him, like Austin did several times to her during the act, which probably confused her even more. I am not condoning what Sami did, but she was a misguided tramatized teen who had recently been abused, convinced that Austin really cared for her (which he did, just not in that way), but Ej was an adult completely aware of what he was doing, knowing that Sami was about to be married and completely in love with Lucas but did not care about hurting her to get what he wanted. Ej knew Lucas' life was in danger. If he truly loved Sami, he would have rushed to help save Lucas' life knowing how much she loved him to earn her trust, not force her to have sex against her will as a condition where timing could have caused him to die anyway.

I'm sure on this particular topic, I don't have to try to convince anyone that Ej and Sami don't belong together which is so refreshing for a change. I do hope all of you are right that have said "true love wins out in the end". I have been hoping for that. I cannot wait for all the nonsense with Ej to be over. His character is supposed to be strong, but with Sami he just looks like a loser. I know Ejami fans say that about Lucas, but at least they have a true healthy foundation and a reason to fight for their relationship. They have been through so much together. They have made mistakes and learned from them, and have made sacrifices for each other, but they have never put each other or their families in jeopardy. Ejami fans say Lucas sent Sami to deathrow, but the truth is he saved her from it. Lucas' anger has always been justified and out of love. Ej has only lied to Sami and manipulated her feelings. Those feelings are not real.

I cannot wait for Sami to finally see Ej for who he is. The writer's are making her look like a fool and unfit mother to trust Ej and Rolf to care for her children(even though I like the actors/characters and Rolf has been endearing, they are criminals who should not be trusted). Like Lucas said Sami' mother and many other family members would have gladly helped out. Why is she trusting people that have hurt her family? This never made sense to me. I hope someone with influence at the show is actually reading these comments and stops trying to make another "supercouple" out of a rapist and his victim. There are too many young girls that watch the show (even older ones and males) that could get the wrong message from this. It's bad enough most guys in situations like this (when they are hot & bothered and want a girl) convince themselves that the girl always wants it. They do not need encouragement frm shows like this making it seem there is hope for a rapist to win over the affection of his victim. Forgiveness, maybe, but love, never.

Please writers (if you are listening) start cleaning up this mess and make Ej pay for all his crimes or at least be found out by Sami. He is a coward that has never taken responsibility for his actions unless it is to manipulate someone. (I don't believe he is sorry about anything he has ever done, and don't believe he helped with John or turned in Stefano out of the goodness of his heart either. Anyone that does is obviously blind or hasn't been watching the show closely.)

I'm sure many of the stuff I mentioned someone probably discussed somewhere on here. I did see some of it, but I only read about the first and last 5 or 10 pages before posting this. Sorry about that. I hope to read more later.

I love Lumi and will never give up hope that someday they will get their happily ever after.


holamsa welcome to our thread. BRAVO! Your thoughts are right on and I agree with all you said. Just the fact that EJ tore Sami away from her family is enough to make her hate him. I don't see how you forgive the man who destroyed your marriage and kept you from the man you love. Add all the pain he put your family through to that and it makes no sense. EJ has not shown any remorse or guilt for anything he has done to anyone from murder to attempted murders to stealing body parts or rape, etc. etc. Therefore he never really changed because you have to be sorry for what you did
in the past before you make a genuine change. EJ just put an act on for Sami and pretended to be the way he knew she wanted him to be. He told her he wanted her to be happy. But when he could have made her happy by letting her go he lied about the annulment to keep her from Lucas. And there are many more examples that show what he really meant was I want you happy but only if you are with me. EJ learned about love from Stefano whose idea of love is obsession and possession. It makes no sense for Sami to have feelings for EJ. I really hope that she is having Lexie do another DNA test to check Johnny's paternity and that supposed glance has nothing to do with a pregnancy test. I have said it before the DNA test on the plane by Stefano's men showed EJ was not the father and that is the one that counts because they needed those stem cells desperately at that time and there was no way anyone could tamper with the test. Along with Stefano wanting Sami to give him heirs seems to indicate he knows Johnny is not a real Dimera.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***

#1669   2008/08/24 05:29AM
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Quote JTsahottie: Hey guys found this video of Lumi. Its new. I needed a good cry. You'll love it and it totally confirms why I love Lumi.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Vys8XSRlY


Goodmorning everyone.
I tried to find this video and I get no such video. Help.
I don't go to You tube that often. Tell me if this is right I go to
www.youtube.com then sign in then put v=Q2Vys8XSR1Y in search block next to the word videos???? What am I doing wrong?

#1670   2008/08/24 05:34AM
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Sorry guys, I tried to enter a post I don`t know what happened to it. Welcome aboard Halamsa, I agree with you and GB too. All I want to add is this, the way they tried to smooth the whole Ej rape Sami, s/l is like slappine real rape victims in the face. I was raped in a very similar manner, and I felt very insulted by this attempt of justification. And if I had young children in the house I wouldn`t want them to start watching garbage like they have been showing. Children do not need to see someone breaking laws for 2 years, and never having to pay for his crimes. Not only do they show Ej not paying for his crimes, they show him being rewarded for them. Because it is looking hes being rewarded by winning the girl. Very bad writing.JMO.Blin."Lumi is family."

#1671   2008/08/24 08:03AM
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Quote Greatbear100:
Quote JTsahottie: Hey guys found this video of Lumi. Its new. I needed a good cry. You'll love it and it totally confirms why I love Lumi.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Vys8XSRlY


Goodmorning everyone.
I tried to find this video and I get no such video. Help.
I don't go to You tube that often. Tell me if this is right I go to
www.youtube.com then sign in then put v=Q2Vys8XSR1Y in search block next to the word videos???? What am I doing wrong?


Hey GB put the link in your internet search engine bar. Its like an address. If you search videos look under the words "What if I said"

#1672   2008/08/24 08:29AM
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Just poppin in to say happy Sunday!!

LUMI is Family!!

#1673   2008/08/24 09:48AM
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WOW__Found the video and it's great. The song with it says it all and I remember seeing it on one of the shows. If you haven't seen it yet I give it high points and think it will
give us all hope that LUMI will survive.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***

#1674   2008/08/24 01:47PM
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"Close friends share a bond. That bond grows with time.
Time connects true love", these words were shown over the start of the video and say it so well. LUMI could not have come all this way to be torn apart by Stefano and EJ. True love will prevail and they will get back together to reunite their family.
***LUMI IS FAMILY***

#1675   2008/08/24 04:50PM
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I hate the so-called love scenes between EJ & Sami and Lucas & Chloe. There is no chemistry between these couples! To see them together just seems wrong! I have been watching Days since the beginning & I loved Sami even when she was bad! If you doubt the chemistry between Sami & Lucas, just watch some utube videos! I watched a bunch of them tonight & was so sad that they are apart - AGAIN! Will this couple ever get a break??? I will admit that EJ is good looking, but I don't like his character! I also admit that Chloe is a beauty, but I don't like her character either...maybe those two should be together??? As for Nichole, I have never liked her. Chloe should just go back to Brady - she was good with him. Ok, I'm done venting for now.

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