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Does anyone think this is possible???

Started by Greek Godess at 2009/10/24 06:38PM
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#11   2009/10/26 12:17PM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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I think it is absurd to think that Sami is going to ask Nicole for help! Are you kidding me? Do we know who we are talking about? There is no way in heck Sami is going to ask Nicole for anything. Her claws are going to come out and if I was Nicole I would leave town the minute the truth comes out. I can't in a million years imagine how I would feel if someone I considered a friend day in and day out lied to me and stole my baby. Sami can act and say all the sweet things she wants to right now about Nicole deserving Sydney but I can promise you that will change the minute she realizes Sydney is really hers.

#12   2009/10/26 12:52PM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I don't think that it is a matter of how many kids Nicole and Sami has it is a matter that Sydney is Sami kid and I do believe what Stefano said that Nicole is only thinking of herself. Nicole brought this on herself for she didn't have to steal another person child to get what she wants when she has options. She could ask for a surrogate mother or legally adopt a child if she wanted one.

#13   2009/10/26 04:50PM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote bmes: well like I said in another post, technically she SHOULD do that, especially after everything she's said to Nicole, otherwise she's going to look like a total hypocrit and fool! idk...maybe she'll be FURIOUS at first, and start having a power struggle with Sydney, and come to her wits end, put her anger aside, and ask Nicole for help dealing with sydney...whether Nicole will WANT to help by then, who knows.


Well, when Sami was saying all of that stuff to Nichole, Sami was under the impression that Mia willingly gaver her Sydney, not that Nichole had stolen Sami's baby. I do not think Sami will look like a hypocrit if she takes back her baby and wants Nichole to stay as far away from Sydney as possible. Nichole broke the law to selfishly get what she wanted. She didn't care who got hurt, both Sami and E.J. have been mourning a baby that wasn't theirs. If Sydney had been with her real parents. they wouldn't be going through all of this pain now. If I were in Sami's position, I would want my baby back and the person that took her sitting in jail and i wouldn't care how it made me look to anyone.

#14   2009/10/26 07:49PM
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Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I just really don't see how someone can think that just because I have 3 children and my ex-husband's new wife doesn't have any that she would have the right to come into the hospital and take my 4th baby and try to raise it as her own without my permission simply because she doesn't have one. I don't feel sorry for Nicole, what she did was legally and morally wrong. Sami may have been wrong for not telling EJ but that still does not justify what Nicole did.
Maybe Sami does have too many children but that is not our call. Life and soap opras are like that.

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#15   2009/10/27 05:08AM
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Quote days-forever:
Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I just really don't see how someone can think that just because I have 3 children and my ex-husband's new wife doesn't have any that she would have the right to come into the hospital and take my 4th baby and try try raise it as her own without my permission simply because she doesn't have one. I don't feel sorry for Nicole, what she did was legally and morally wrong. Sami may have been wrong for not telling EJ but that still does not justify what Nicole did.
Maybe Sami does have too many children but that is not our call. Life and soap opras are like that.



ITA with your post. Sami may have not made the best choice in many people's eyes, but what she did was not illegal. Nicole's choices were illegal. Many times we do not have the choice in how many children we have-- fair or not.

#16   2009/10/27 10:56AM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote Danielle:
Quote bmes: well like I said in another post, technically she SHOULD do that, especially after everything she's said to Nicole, otherwise she's going to look like a total hypocrit and fool! idk...maybe she'll be FURIOUS at first, and start having a power struggle with Sydney, and come to her wits end, put her anger aside, and ask Nicole for help dealing with sydney...whether Nicole will WANT to help by then, who knows.


Well, when Sami was saying all of that stuff to Nichole, Sami was under the impression that Mia willingly gaver her Sydney, not that Nichole had stolen Sami's baby. I do not think Sami will look like a hypocrit if she takes back her baby and wants Nichole to stay as far away from Sydney as possible. Nichole broke the law to selfishly get what she wanted. She didn't care who got hurt, both Sami and E.J. have been mourning a baby that wasn't theirs. If Sydney had been with her real parents. they wouldn't be going through all of this pain now. If I were in Sami's position, I would want my baby back and the person that took her sitting in jail and i wouldn't care how it made me look to anyone.


yes you're right, that Sami is under the impression that Mia gave her baby away willingly, cause that part IS true. But Sami also KNOWS that Chad was never imformed about Mia's baby, and Mia gave her baby away ILLEGALLY AND without Chad's consent. So in a way, Sami is supporting Nicole's decision to run off with a baby that is not "legally" hers...doesn't matter if Sami doesn't know that Nicole stole Sydney from HER...she technically still STOLE a baby,and Sami is helping her with running off with that baby...Sami feels that that is what ANY mother would do, because Nicole is the only mother Sydney has ever known. and this is where Sami will look like a hypocrit, cause when she finds out the WHOLE truth, she's going to start singing a different tune.

#17   2009/10/27 11:01AM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote magicsteacher:
Quote days-forever:
Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I just really don't see how someone can think that just because I have 3 children and my ex-husband's new wife doesn't have any that she would have the right to come into the hospital and take my 4th baby and try try raise it as her own without my permission simply because she doesn't have one. I don't feel sorry for Nicole, what she did was legally and morally wrong. Sami may have been wrong for not telling EJ but that still does not justify what Nicole did.
Maybe Sami does have too many children but that is not our call. Life and soap opras are like that.



ITA with your post. Sami may have not made the best choice in many people's eyes, but what she did was not illegal. Nicole's choices were illegal. Many times we do not have the choice in how many children we have-- fair or not.


sorry but i have to kind of disagree with that. i'm pretty sure that when Sami was going to let Rafe adopt Grace, without EJ's knowledge is pretty much illegal. the biological father has to give away his rights first, which did not happen.

#18   2009/10/27 11:53AM
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Quote bmes:
Quote Danielle:
Quote bmes: well like I said in another post, technically she SHOULD do that, especially after everything she's said to Nicole, otherwise she's going to look like a total hypocrit and fool! idk...maybe she'll be FURIOUS at first, and start having a power struggle with Sydney, and come to her wits end, put her anger aside, and ask Nicole for help dealing with sydney...whether Nicole will WANT to help by then, who knows.


Well, when Sami was saying all of that stuff to Nichole, Sami was under the impression that Mia willingly gaver her Sydney, not that Nichole had stolen Sami's baby. I do not think Sami will look like a hypocrit if she takes back her baby and wants Nichole to stay as far away from Sydney as possible. Nichole broke the law to selfishly get what she wanted. She didn't care who got hurt, both Sami and E.J. have been mourning a baby that wasn't theirs. If Sydney had been with her real parents. they wouldn't be going through all of this pain now. If I were in Sami's position, I would want my baby back and the person that took her sitting in jail and i wouldn't care how it made me look to anyone.


yes you're right, that Sami is under the impression that Mia gave her baby away willingly, cause that part IS true. But Sami also KNOWS that Chad was never imformed about Mia's baby, and Mia gave her baby away ILLEGALLY AND without Chad's consent. So in a way, Sami is supporting Nicole's decision to run off with a baby that is not "legally" hers...doesn't matter if Sami doesn't know that Nicole stole Sydney from HER...she technically still STOLE a baby,and Sami is helping her with running off with that baby...Sami feels that that is what ANY mother would do, because Nicole is the only mother Sydney has ever known. and this is where Sami will look like a hypocrit, cause when she finds out the WHOLE truth, she's going to start singing a different tune.


Good post! I agree completely.

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#19   2009/10/27 12:05PM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote bmes:
Quote magicsteacher:
Quote days-forever:
Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I just really don't see how someone can think that just because I have 3 children and my ex-husband's new wife doesn't have any that she would have the right to come into the hospital and take my 4th baby and try try raise it as her own without my permission simply because she doesn't have one. I don't feel sorry for Nicole, what she did was legally and morally wrong. Sami may have been wrong for not telling EJ but that still does not justify what Nicole did.
Maybe Sami does have too many children but that is not our call. Life and soap opras are like that.



ITA with your post. Sami may have not made the best choice in many people's eyes, but what she did was not illegal. Nicole's choices were illegal. Many times we do not have the choice in how many children we have-- fair or not.


sorry but i have to kind of disagree with that. i'm pretty sure that when Sami was going to let Rafe adopt Grace, without EJ's knowledge is pretty much illegal. the biological father has to give away his rights first, which did not happen.


The whole adoption was done illegally but putting that aside, if the father is not listed on the birth certificate, it is not illegal. The only thing a court will do if a father comes back, is run DNA and void the adoption. There are no criminal charges filed. It is part of the Father's Rights clause that many states carry. Maybe I carry it too far but I am of the mind (with as screwed up as the legal system is) if a woman can choose to terminate a pregnancy, by her own choice, without the father's consent, she should be able to choose whether or not she raises the child on her own or to put the baby up for adoption. I do not believe in abortion but the judicial system has basically given women the right to chose whether a child lives or dies. I do believe Chad has the right to his child, his family has the means to help support his child but there are many boys out their whose families do not have the means to help the teen parents and in those cases, the child is probably better off being put up for adoption. I am just of the mind that children have a way of making their parents look like hypocrits. There are things or ideas that we say we are never going to do but we find ourselves doing them. I think Sami's conversation with Nichole has more to do with what Mia said and promised. Mia should have went to Chad's parents (since she couldn't get in touch with them) and told them what was going on. I know that I would rather have my grandchild than see the baby adopted out. Justin was right, she sold her baby. No amount of reasoning on Mia's part is going to negate that fact. I think friends will side with friends. Sami is trying to be a friend, she sees her friend going through this and wants to help her. I would probably help my friend try to keep her child but I would hope I would use a more legal method. The only victims that I see in this are Chad, Sydney, and Grace. Mia had options and she chose the wrong ones. There are many pregnant teens in this world that choose to give their babies up for adoption and the father's very seldom have a say in it. I know the Catholic church that my parent's go to have a teen crisis pregnancy home. This is a home where pregnant teens can go until their baby is born and then the Catholic Church helps find families within the Christian community to adopt them so I do not think it is all that illegal to adopt your child out without the father's consent. If the father does find out and wants his child, there is a court case and the judge will look at whether the father has the means and stability to support the child before removing the child from the child's adoptive parents. It just goes to show that the judicial system can do whatever it wants concerning it's court cases. There are loop holes in every judicial statute, a person just has to find them.

#20   2009/10/27 12:13PM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote kktt:
Quote bmes:
Quote Danielle:
Quote bmes: well like I said in another post, technically she SHOULD do that, especially after everything she's said to Nicole, otherwise she's going to look like a total hypocrit and fool! idk...maybe she'll be FURIOUS at first, and start having a power struggle with Sydney, and come to her wits end, put her anger aside, and ask Nicole for help dealing with sydney...whether Nicole will WANT to help by then, who knows.


Well, when Sami was saying all of that stuff to Nichole, Sami was under the impression that Mia willingly gaver her Sydney, not that Nichole had stolen Sami's baby. I do not think Sami will look like a hypocrit if she takes back her baby and wants Nichole to stay as far away from Sydney as possible. Nichole broke the law to selfishly get what she wanted. She didn't care who got hurt, both Sami and E.J. have been mourning a baby that wasn't theirs. If Sydney had been with her real parents. they wouldn't be going through all of this pain now. If I were in Sami's position, I would want my baby back and the person that took her sitting in jail and i wouldn't care how it made me look to anyone.


yes you're right, that Sami is under the impression that Mia gave her baby away willingly, cause that part IS true. But Sami also KNOWS that Chad was never imformed about Mia's baby, and Mia gave her baby away ILLEGALLY AND without Chad's consent. So in a way, Sami is supporting Nicole's decision to run off with a baby that is not "legally" hers...doesn't matter if Sami doesn't know that Nicole stole Sydney from HER...she technically still STOLE a baby,and Sami is helping her with running off with that baby...Sami feels that that is what ANY mother would do, because Nicole is the only mother Sydney has ever known. and this is where Sami will look like a hypocrit, cause when she finds out the WHOLE truth, she's going to start singing a different tune.


Good post! I agree completely.


If Sydney would have been Mia's and Chad's child then I disagree with Nichole having stole the child. Mia assured Nichole that the father was not going to be a problem. As I stated before, there are many women that give their children up for adoption without the consent of the father, in some states it is not needed, exp when it concerns a pregnant teen. I know a girl that I went to school with, she gave all three of her babies up for adoption (guess she never heard of birth control) and she didn't have to have the father's consent for any of the adoptions. There are loop holes you just have to find them. If the father's name is on the birth cert then yes his permission is required but if its not then the mother can adopt the baby out if she wants to. She is the sole parent.

#21   2009/10/27 04:19PM
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There is no way that Sami will be a hypocrite. We are talking about the difference in a baby that was given up for adoption and a baby that was kidnapped.
If someone gave you their baby and then wanted it back I would say to you to fight to keep the child especially since the birth mother is on your side. But on the other hand if you had kidnapped my baby and swapped it for another baby that you were entrusted with, forget it. If you think you are going to get to keep it then you must have really hit your head hard when you fell off that turnip truck. Does that make me a hypocrite? Who gives a crap! I did not give you my baby and you're not keeping it.
This is a soap opera but that still doesn't make Sami a hyprocrite.

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#22   2009/10/28 06:46AM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote dumbfairiesgirl:
Quote ghlover2009: Sami might let Nicole around her who knows it is a soap? I just think it isn't fair that sami has four kids while Nicole has none and Mia's baby dies.


I don't think that it is a matter of how many kids Nicole and Sami has it is a matter that Sydney is Sami kid and I do believe what Stefano said that Nicole is only thinking of herself. Nicole brought this on herself for she didn't have to steal another person child to get what she wants when she has options. She could ask for a surrogate mother or legally adopt a child if she wanted one.


That is not what i meant thank you i meant to say it isn't fair that they killed grace and nicole's baby off

#23   2009/10/28 07:08AM
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This is what could happen. Might be a little spoilish so be warned.
Nicole moves in with gullible Sami. The truth doesn't come out for quite a while. Sami bonds with Sydney and also Allie bonds with Allie. Will throws in the towel when Nicole moves in and moves in with Nathan at his dad's house.
Well then Nicole and Sami really get to know each other and bond as well. They discuss their broken hearts through the years. They both sought men and had their hearts broken. Both by EJ. Nicole realizes how EJ hurt Sami and now her and Sydney. Well if you see where I'm going here, DOOL could have its first gay couple. That would mean no more ejami, safe or lumi. And if EJ has a meltdown, just maybe Sami could get full custody of Johnny and Sydney.
Now that I think you would admit would sure be a "twist'.

#24   2009/10/28 08:14AM
Re: Does anyone think this is possible???
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Quote days-forever: There is no way that Sami will be a hypocrite. We are talking about the difference in a baby that was given up for adoption and a baby that was kidnapped.
If someone gave you their baby and then wanted it back I would say to you to fight to keep the child especially since the birth mother is on your side. But on the other hand if you had kidnapped my baby and swapped it for another baby that you were entrusted with, forget it. If you think you are going to get to keep it then you must have really hit your head hard when you fell off that turnip truck. Does that make me a hypocrite? Who gives a crap! I did not give you my baby and you're not keeping it.
This is a soap opera but that still doesn't make Sami a hyprocrite.


ha ha turnip truck!!! lol...

OBVIOUSLY Sami has a right to demand her baby back!!! that's only natural. we all know Sami is going to do exactly that...flip out and take Sydney from Nicole, and demand that she stay far far away...OF COURSE!!! if she doesn't, then something is wrong with her. this is why, like i said in another post, that Sami should SHUT UP!! (and Stefano told her to shut her mouth too, which i thought was totally hilarious btw...lol..) but I think what every body is forgetting is that there IS someone out there that wants their baby back (or maybe not exactly FORGETTING...but overlooking it, just cause he's a young teenage punk). Mia gave away her baby without talking it over with Chad...he didn't even know she was pregnant...that part of it, like someone else has said, is probably not illegal, and all the loop holes and whatnot. but mia did it illegally..she SOLD her baby, and now that Chad does know about it, he wants his baby back. plain and simple. and although I disagree with his motives (i feel he's doing it out of revenge, and not because he loves his child), he still has rights, unfortunately. even if he's NOT on the birth certificate, he can still go to the courts and request a DNA sample (obviously this dna sample won't match...we all know that...but Sami doesn't know this)...now remember, SAMI is aware of ALL OF THIS!!! and she's STILL supporting and helping Nicole run away with a baby when she KNOWS the adoption was illegal, and there's someone out there who wants his baby. would Sami let nicole run off with Sydney if she knew that baby was HERS???? OF COURSE NOT!!! ok...lets think another way...if it was her son WILL that was in Chad's position, would Sami still support Nicole, or would she support her son in getting back his child that he never knew about? i would think she'd choose Will. why would it be ok to run off with Chad's child and nobody else's? that's what i'm trying to say here. sami would never let someone run off with her child, but at the same time she supports people who run off with a child that's not legally theirs. a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings is called a hypocrite!! it won't make sami WRONG for wanting her baby back, but she does need to shut up!! lol...

#25   2009/10/28 09:06AM
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Quote bmes:
Quote days-forever: There is no way that Sami will be a hypocrite. We are talking about the difference in a baby that was given up for adoption and a baby that was kidnapped.
If someone gave you their baby and then wanted it back I would say to you to fight to keep the child especially since the birth mother is on your side. But on the other hand if you had kidnapped my baby and swapped it for another baby that you were entrusted with, forget it. If you think you are going to get to keep it then you must have really hit your head hard when you fell off that turnip truck. Does that make me a hypocrite? Who gives a crap! I did not give you my baby and you're not keeping it.
This is a soap opera but that still doesn't make Sami a hyprocrite.


ha ha turnip truck!!! lol...

OBVIOUSLY Sami has a right to demand her baby back!!! that's only natural. we all know Sami is going to do exactly that...flip out and take Sydney from Nicole, and demand that she stay far far away...OF COURSE!!! if she doesn't, then something is wrong with her. this is why, like i said in another post, that Sami should SHUT UP!! (and Stefano told her to shut her mouth too, which i thought was totally hilarious btw...lol..) but I think what every body is forgetting is that there IS someone out there that wants their baby back (or maybe not exactly FORGETTING...but overlooking it, just cause he's a young teenage punk). Mia gave away her baby without talking it over with Chad...he didn't even know she was pregnant...that part of it, like someone else has said, is probably not illegal, and all the loop holes and whatnot. but mia did it illegally..she SOLD her baby, and now that Chad does know about it, he wants his baby back. plain and simple. and although I disagree with his motives (i feel he's doing it out of revenge, and not because he loves his child), he still has rights, unfortunately. even if he's NOT on the birth certificate, he can still go to the courts and request a DNA sample (obviously this dna sample won't match...we all know that...but Sami doesn't know this)...now remember, SAMI is aware of ALL OF THIS!!! and she's STILL supporting and helping Nicole run away with a baby when she KNOWS the adoption was illegal, and there's someone out there who wants his baby. would Sami let nicole run off with Sydney if she knew that baby was HERS???? OF COURSE NOT!!! ok...lets think another way...if it was her son WILL that was in Chad's position, would Sami still support Nicole, or would she support her son in getting back his child that he never knew about? i would think she'd choose Will. why would it be ok to run off with Chad's child and nobody else's? that's what i'm trying to say here. sami would never let someone run off with her child, but at the same time she supports people who run off with a child that's not legally theirs. a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings is called a hypocrite!! it won't make sami WRONG for wanting her baby back, but she does need to shut up!! lol...


Absolutely correct! I agree 100%

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