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Dissapointed

Started by catherineb at 2009/10/10 09:55AM
Latest post: 2009/10/12 09:00AM, Views: 571, Replies: 12
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#1   2009/10/10 09:55AM
Dissapointed
catherineb
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I am very disappointed in most people. Who have seem to have lost their memories and are now treating sami and EJ like they are Jesus who have never done anything wrong in their lives poor poor sami and poor poor Ej. Oh Plz give me a break i don't feel any remorse for any of them even i don't feel sorry for Nicole well i kinda do feel sorry for her. Because out of all this people she lost something that she has ever wanted in her life. Are u forgetting it was sami's fault that Nicole couldn't get pregnant when they had a fight and Nicole ended up in the hospital that time when Brandon was there.

I Mean when Nicole lost the Baby she was told she could never have kids ever i mean the chances are very little. Can't u atleast feel her pain. Another thing yes what she is doing to sami and ej is wrong she shouldn't have done that and yes everyone deserves punishment and she will get her punishment. But to say that she doesn't deserve happiness that is wong. What about Ej and Sami what about them, they have done so many bad things in the past especially Sami who is so ungrateful she even hurt some of the members of her family one in particular her two sisters. If sami and Ej deserve happiness then Nicole deserves too ALRIGHT damn it.

Nicole does deserve some happiness in the world she is a person who is looking for affectionate, love and yes she loves brady she is just afraid. Again if u people are saying that Nicole should go to jail then EJ, Sami, Stefano, Victor, Kate etc they should also go to jail for what they have done.

THE ONLY PERSON I FEEL SORRY FOR IN THIS IS BABY SYDNEY. She is the only who is the real victim her not sami, or ej or nicole. Again forgive me if i have offeneded anyone

#2   2009/10/10 11:04AM
Re: Dissapointed
Danielle
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Quote catherineb: I am very disappointed in most people. Who have seem to have lost their memories and are now treating sami and EJ like they are Jesus who have never done anything wrong in their lives poor poor sami and poor poor Ej. Oh Plz give me a break i don't feel any remorse for any of them even i don't feel sorry for Nicole well i kinda do feel sorry for her. Because out of all this people she lost something that she has ever wanted in her life. Are u forgetting it was sami's fault that Nicole couldn't get pregnant when they had a fight and Nicole ended up in the hospital that time when Brandon was there.

I Mean when Nicole lost the Baby she was told she could never have kids ever i mean the chances are very little. Can't u atleast feel her pain. Another thing yes what she is doing to sami and ej is wrong she shouldn't have done that and yes everyone deserves punishment and she will get her punishment. But to say that she doesn't deserve happiness that is wong. What about Ej and Sami what about them, they have done so many bad things in the past especially Sami who is so ungrateful she even hurt some of the members of her family one in particular her two sisters. If sami and Ej deserve happiness then Nicole deserves too ALRIGHT damn it.

Nicole does deserve some happiness in the world she is a person who is looking for affectionate, love and yes she loves brady she is just afraid. Again if u people are saying that Nicole should go to jail then EJ, Sami, Stefano, Victor, Kate etc they should also go to jail for what they have done.

THE ONLY PERSON I FEEL SORRY FOR IN THIS IS BABY SYDNEY. She is the only who is the real victim her not sami, or ej or nicole. Again forgive me if i have offeneded anyone


I agree they should all be in jail but this is a soap so it is not going to happen. I felt bad for Nichole until she took someone elses baby. Sami has done a bunch of crappy things but she is now trying to grow up. Nichole is still me, me, me. She should have just adopted a baby instead of taking one that wasn't hers because now the truth is going to come out and she will have nothing, atleast if she had adopted, she would still have the baby she said she so desperately wanted. I love how soaps twist medical things, I remember at one time, there was a post about why nichole couldn't have kids and I kept thinking to myself, that is so wrong, she can still have kids. I did. I would feel sorry for any mother that lost their child, despite their past. Nichole has also done a great deal of crummy things.

#3   2009/10/10 11:30AM
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DOOL1965
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I would feel sorry for Nicole if she wasn’t a selfish person, but she has always thought about herself first and no one else. She said in the park Friday that she didn’t take Sydney to hurt Sami, that’s a bunch of crap. Sami did some terrible things when she was younger, but she has changed and her feeling sorry for Nicole now proves that. I think Sami will be so happy to get her baby back when the truth finally comes out, that she is not going to react to Nicole like she would have 10 years ago.

#4   2009/10/10 08:07PM
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days-forever
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You said Nicole would still have the baby that she adopted. That child would have been baby Grace so Nicole wouldn't have a baby now even if she had kept the child she was given.

#5   2009/10/10 08:12PM
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Danielle
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Quote days-forever: You said Nicole would still have the baby that she adopted. That child would have been baby Grace so Nicole wouldn't have a baby now even if she had kept the child she was given.

When i say adopted, I mean a legal adoption. Mia's baby wasn't legal, therefore how could Grace be considered adopted. Grace was going to be a black market baby sold to the highest bidder, for the profit of Doc baker. If Nichole had not blackmailed the doc, this is what would have happened. If Nichole had gone the legal route and adopted, she would, in fact still probably have her baby.

#6   2009/10/11 06:27AM
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catherineb
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Alright. I had said in my point that what Nicole did was wrong and she should get punished for her sins i know this is only a soap. But honestly you people the way u are defending sami and ej is kinda disgusting. This people have made mistakes and have done so many bad things to many people. Even sami almost sold her sister to the black market but u people seem to have forgotten that she should also have gone to jail alright, EJ should also go to jail for what he has done and i don't feel sorry for him or sami no matter what i just don't. I don't feel sorry for Nicole also cause she brought all this on herself.

But for u guys to say that sami and EJ deserve happiness even after what they have done also then nicole also deserves some happiness. And plz if u guys say that Nicole should go to jail for her crimes then EJ, Sami, Stefano and Victor should go to jail for all of their crimes it's not fair that u want Nicole to go to jail for her crimes but none of the people that i mentioned shouldn't go to jail.

The only person who i feel sorry for is Sydney because she is the victim here and EJ as u people seem to worship him should love Sydney even though thats not his blood.

#7   2009/10/11 06:41AM
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DayzDreamin
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Nichole is off her rocker since she lost her baby. I do feel sorry for her for that and for the lengths she has gone to for Ej's love it is very sad (it is also very real to see women like that. In her own way Nichole does have regrets over her actions, especially for the pain it has caused Sami.

Sami has done many horrible things in her past and she knows it. The last year (Grace and all) have taught Sami a ton and she realizes now the effects of her actions on others and how selfish she was. While things have been tough and tragic for her, she has emerged a better person with a better understanding of things than had she not experienced this.

Ej, I wish for once it wasnt all about him and how he was wronged, but it always is, it never changes with him. Wish Ej had sympathy and compassion for someone, anyone, but when you think he is starting to say something compassionate it turns out to be all about him.

No definetely not jail for Nichole, she is certainly no worse than the rest of Salem. Even Ej (and Stefano) if Kate isnt going to pay, he doesnt get to either.

#8   2009/10/11 07:28AM
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days-forever
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Quote Danielle:
Quote days-forever: You said Nicole would still have the baby that she adopted. That child would have been baby Grace so Nicole wouldn't have a baby now even if she had kept the child she was given.

When i say adopted, I mean a legal adoption. Mia's baby wasn't legal, therefore how could Grace be considered adopted. Grace was going to be a black market baby sold to the highest bidder, for the profit of Doc baker. If Nichole had not blackmailed the doc, this is what would have happened. If Nichole had gone the legal route and adopted, she would, in fact still probably have her baby.


If Nicole had done a legal adoption in the first place it would be a completely different storyline going on today. She can still do a legal adoption as far as that goes.

#9   2009/10/11 07:55AM
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DOOL1965
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When Sami kidnapped Belle she was a teenagers, (I’m not making excuses for her), but she was young, but Sami has grown by leaps and bounds, by losing Grace and having a good, honest man like Rafe in her life, she realizes what she has done in the past, and she doesn’t want to repeat those same mistakes and live like that anymore.

Sometimes I think Nicole is sorry for what she has done, and in the same breathe it all about her. Nicole and EJ are so much alike it’s scary, it has been, it is now, and will also be about them and no one else. Nicole will do anything so she comes out ahead, and she doesn’t care who she throws under the bus, just so she can have her way.

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#10   2009/10/11 08:08AM
Re: Dissapointed
magicsteacher
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Quote DOOL1965: When Sami kidnapped Belle she was a teenagers, (I’m not making excuses for her), but she was young, but Sami has grown by leaps and bounds, by losing Grace and having a good, honest man like Rafe in her life, she realizes what she has done in the past, and she doesn’t want to repeat those same mistakes and live like that anymore.

Sometimes I think Nicole is sorry for what she has done, and in the same breathe it all about her. Nicole and EJ are so much alike it’s scary, it has been, it is now, and will also be about them and no one else. Nicole will do anything so she comes out ahead, and she doesn’t care who she throws under the bus, just so she can have her way.




I so totally agree with you. She even told Stefano that if she went down for this and lost her family, that she would take him down with her ( not likely that would happen, but she still threatened it). She wants Sydney and EJ and that is all Nicole really cares about or has cared about in the beginning. She has said at various times that she feels sorry for Sami and what has happened, but then she starts thinking of herself again and her feeling sorry goes out the window.
I know that taking Sydney and that whole thing was terrible, but I think one of the worst things I have seen Nicole do was to pretend to be Sami's friend and give her advice that Sami thought was genuine, to take advantage of her was she was so vulnerable, and try to turn her against Rafe when she knew that Sami loved him so much. The whole bit about helping her see Johnny was another selfish move-- she just didn't want EJ to go to jail and leave her alone, so she pretended to care about Sami's relationship with Johnny. This was all done to try and get Rafe off her back when she knew he was on to her. He had nothing to do with feeling sorry for Sami or trying to help her.
That is why she and EJ are perfect for each other-- it always about them and what they want and what they feel.
Sami has grown up and it shows. I think when we see this whole babyswitch come out, we will see Sami's reaction being different than it would have been in the past. Her thoughts will be those of loving her baby and putting her family back together, not thoughts of how can I get revenge on Nicole.

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#11   2009/10/11 07:35PM
Re: Dissapointed
snanax4
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I watched when Nicole's dad shot her when she was trying to save Jan Spears from being raped by him. The doctors told her then she could never have a baby. I don't remember if it was because they had to remove her uterus and such to repair her stomach because of the bullet path, or not. In any case, she has pushed Sami's buttons for her own agenda. The other poster said it all about making Sami distrust Rafe because he was onto her. Not saying Nicole does not need some sympathy now, but losing her child put her over the edge. That will be her defense with it all. Before EJ forgives her because she arranged for him to have the daughter Sami planned to and did hide from him.

#12   2009/10/12 08:06AM
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LadyDi50
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I would feel differently about Nicole if she would have done the right thing last week. If she would have told both Sami and EJ that Snydey was theirs... then I would say that Nicole has changed and really wanted to do what was best for Snydey. She had her chance to redeem herself, but once again Nicole thought about Nicole.

Sami although it was a bit late realized that she was wrong in withholding the truth about Grace from EJ. She told him because the guilt was tearing her up... just another sign of Sami's growth and willingness to pay for her wrongs

EJ loves Nicole, I do believe that... but with everything that she has pulled, the deception and the fact that she didn't TRUST him enough to share the truth with him about the miscarriage and she shared it with Brady, Nicole may have destroyed that love and turned her precious EJ into a very bitter man toward all women.

And Stefano doesn't like Nicole, he only put up with her because of Snydey.

Yes Sami was just as calculating and conniving as Nicole... but the operative word here is WAS.

#13   2009/10/12 09:00AM
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Hey...I agree with your post to a point. I feel sorry for Nicole because she has not been right in the head since she lost her baby, but it is always about her and no one else. She has used and abused poor Brady until he has nothing left. He sacrificed his happiness time and again for her and she blamed him in the park for her being caught. He said it right when he said that she was sick to say those things to him. She and EJ deserve each other...he is an idiot who is letting pride get in the way of his having a baby. I do not feel that bad for Nicole because she is still lying and denying EJ his happiness by telling him the truth about his daughter. If she truly loved him, she would tell him the full truth...if you love something set it free and all that jazz...she is selfish and fits in well with the Dimera clan...

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