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Started by bmes at 2009/10/06 09:59AM
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#41   2009/10/07 04:15PM
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DOOL1965
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I agree Magic---EJ sure isn’t acting like a amazing, wonderful, astounding, and remarkable man or father right now!

#42   2009/10/07 04:17PM
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magicsteacher
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I don't dispute that JS is a good actor and that he portrays a villain very well. But I do think that all the actors portray a character the way they are told to by the directors and producers of the show. I am sure the writers write certain characters the way they do for a purpose, and we may soon see the purpose of that.

#43   2009/10/08 08:08AM
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Chrissi
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Quote DOOL1965: This is an EJ thread, why do some have to been in Sami, Lucas, and Rafe when it’s not about them. I don’t understand!


Correct. I'm really disappointed in some of the posts I'm seeing. Stop with the stupid Rafe vs EJ vs Lucas posting crap and let's get on with this thread, which is only about EJ.

So chime in with your thoughts about whether or not EJ is being a jerk about Nicole's lies or not. This is not the proper thread to go back and forth about your petty arguments. I've already had to ban one girl. I don't want to ban more, so let's get back on target.

#44   2009/10/08 09:32AM
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In Ej's defense: I did not think EJ grabbed Nicole in a chokehold. He kind of had her by the face and shoulders so that she would look him in the eye and tell him the truth. It was almost as if he sensed that as long as she kept turning away from him, she just had more time to come up with different lies. She was lieing, and lieing, and lieing! Out of frustration, he had to grab her like that and make her focus in order to get the real truth out of her. In this one particular scene, I did not see it as abusive. He was angry, but also determined to know what was going on.

That being said, the character of EJ is being written as kind of selfish. He is only thinking about how the actions and deceits of others have hurt EJ, how angry EJ is, how betrayed EJ is, the losses that EJ has suffered, how EJ was fooled and lied to.

He is not seeing the other side of the coin as in how his own actions have affected others, including Sami and Nicole, and Johnny, and Sydney, and Grace. Even Stephanie who was once his friend. He did not even care if she lived or died as long as he won the battle in the Kiriakis/DiMera war that he and his father created. It all comes down to his turning a blind eye to everything except his quest to become his father's son and inherit all the power and wealth that goes with it.

Yes, he loves Sydney, but he thinks she is not of DiMera blood. He thinks and believes that her real parents might just show up and take her away, which will of course HURT EJ even more so he wants to break all ties now and get it over with. He is a lawyer. If he really loves Sydney and Nicole, then he could take steps to make the adoption legal. Chad and Mia are teenagers. If he is behaving like a responsible father and husband, then he would have a much better chance of convincing them to sign the papers.

If he is behaving like an angry jerk, then there's no way Chad is going to let his daughter stay with that family.

#45   2009/10/08 09:41AM
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Quote bghwme: In Ej's defense: I did not think EJ grabbed Nicole in a chokehold. He kind of had her by the face and shoulders so that she would look him in the eye and tell him the truth. It was almost as if he sensed that as long as she kept turning away from him, she just had more time to come up with different lies. She was lieing, and lieing, and lieing! Out of frustration, he had to grab her like that and make her focus in order to get the real truth out of her. In this one particular scene, I did not see it as abusive. He was angry, but also determined to know what was going on.

That being said, the character of EJ is being written as kind of selfish. He is only thinking about how the actions and deceits of others have hurt EJ, how angry EJ is, how betrayed EJ is, the losses that EJ has suffered, how EJ was fooled and lied to.

He is not seeing the other side of the coin as in how his own actions have affected others, including Sami and Nicole, and Johnny, and Sydney, and Grace. Even Stephanie who was once his friend. He did not even care if she lived or died as long as he won the battle in the Kiriakis/DiMera war that he and his father created. It all comes down to his turning a blind eye to everything except his quest to become his father's son and inherit all the power and wealth that goes with it.

Yes, he loves Sydney, but he thinks she is not of DiMera blood. He thinks and believes that her real parents might just show up and take her away, which will of course HURT EJ even more so he wants to break all ties now and get it over with. He is a lawyer. If he really loves Sydney and Nicole, then he could take steps to make the adoption legal. Chad and Mia are teenagers. If he is behaving like a responsible father and husband, then he would have a much better chance of convincing them to sign the papers.

If he is behaving like an angry jerk, then there's no way Chad is going to let his daughter stay with that family.




Extremely good points about EJ not seeing things from anyother perspective except for his own. If he would think about it, he would realize that the things he has done have affected so many lives in negative ways. Maybe Sami's bad karma is circling overhead.
I understand that EJ was angry and hurt over being deceived, but I did think his behavior with Nicole, even yesterday, was a little over the top, but that's JMO. I don't like men putting their hands on women like that.

#46   2009/10/08 09:52AM
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DOOL1965
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I agree with you on most points, but I did see EJ put his hand on Nicole neck, his thumb and fingers were under her ears, and that is not acceptable behavior even for a soap opera, there are other ways to get Nicole’s attentions!

#47   2009/10/08 09:56AM
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I love Ej's acting! Like Ive said all along he is crazy. I know if I went through what he is going through I would be PO to. But no man should ever lay a hand on a women! I still think Nicole and EJ will be together in the end. I think they are fit for each other. I do like the Brady, and the Nicole scenes together. But I do think Brady is to nice for Nicole. I love watching Day's right now!

#48   2009/10/08 10:03AM
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thank you chrissi...SO FUNNY, cause yesterday morning I was so impressed cause I made an EJ thread and people were being really civilized. people were giving their opinions and that was it...then shortly after that, it all went to hell..lol...

oh man...when Sami asked him if he wanted to hold his daughter, and he said that he shouldn't and to give her to Nicole, I wanted to smack my tv!!! lol...i sure hope he can find a way to put his anger aside, and realize it's Nicole's fault, not sydneys, otherwise he's totally going to regret it when he finds out everything.

#49   2009/10/08 02:38PM
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I DONT BLAME EJ FOR BEING MAD.
HE SHOULD KICK NICOLE OUT AND WE ALL KNOW NICOLE WOULD TAKE
SIDNEY WITH HER BECAUSE EJ DO'EST KNOW THAT SIDNEY IS HE'S
and SAMIE DAUGHTER.
I HOPE SAMIE KICK'S NICOLE AS*

#50   2009/10/08 03:43PM
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hootaboi
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Here's my question, what's with men assaulting woman on Soaps lately? First we have EJ grabbing Nicole by the throat on Days and then we have Johnny grabbing Claudia by the head on GH .. I think some soaps are starting to cross the line..

#51   2009/10/08 05:42PM
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magicsteacher
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Quote Trisha ann: I DONT BLAME EJ FOR BEING MAD.
HE SHOULD KICK NICOLE OUT AND WE ALL KNOW NICOLE WOULD TAKE
SIDNEY WITH HER BECAUSE EJ DO'EST KNOW THAT SIDNEY IS HE'S
and SAMIE DAUGHTER.
I HOPE SAMIE KICK'S NICOLE AS*





I don't blame EJ for being angry either. And, if he wanted to show Nicole the door, I could understand that, too. But the part that irritates me is that he doesn't want Sydney around either b/c she is not his blood daughter. What difference does it make? If you love a child, you love a child, it makes no difference who the biological parent(s) are. You don't turn that love off and on, depending on whether or not a certain person is the father or mother. That was a cold and cruel thing for him to do.

#52   2009/10/08 05:53PM
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EJ told Lexi today that he loves Sydney, but he knows he will lose her b/c as far as he knows, she is someone else's child & Nicole did not legally adopt her. According to an interview Ari Zucker gave,

*** SPOILERS ***

EJ will tell Nicole that he has reconsidered & wants Sydney in his life, but not Nicole. In the same interview Ari alludes to Nicole manipulating/seducing Chad to try & keep him from going after Sydney. Ari also says Nicole is delusional b/c she thinks she is going to be able to put her family back together. So, I don't think the Nicole/EJ pairing will be revisited, but Sydney's future is up in the air for sure.

#53   2009/10/08 08:09PM
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Quote hootaboi: Here's my question, what's with men assaulting woman on Soaps lately? First we have EJ grabbing Nicole by the throat on Days and then we have Johnny grabbing Claudia by the head on GH .. I think some soaps are starting to cross the line..


I agree, although GH has been notoriously bad about physical violence against women for years. Women blown up, shot, beaten, stabbed, etc. I stopped watching it when they turned the Iraq war vet into a violent person because I just couldn't take it anymore.

But I think EJ is seeing red and raging mad and that does NOT excuse his behavior, which I think it was wrong for him to grab Nicole like that, but I will say James is playing raging mad very well. I wonder if the actors are comfortable doing those scenes, especially with Ari being pregnant. Not that anything would happen, but she is playing hysterical every day and I think, take it easy, sister, don't get so worked up! LOL

#54   2009/10/08 08:18PM
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briebrie
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Quote magicsteacher:
Quote Trisha ann: I DONT BLAME EJ FOR BEING MAD.
HE SHOULD KICK NICOLE OUT AND WE ALL KNOW NICOLE WOULD TAKE
SIDNEY WITH HER BECAUSE EJ DO'EST KNOW THAT SIDNEY IS HE'S
and SAMIE DAUGHTER.
I HOPE SAMIE KICK'S NICOLE AS*





I don't blame EJ for being angry either. And, if he wanted to show Nicole the door, I could understand that, too. But the part that irritates me is that he doesn't want Sydney around either b/c she is not his blood daughter. What difference does it make? If you love a child, you love a child, it makes no difference who the biological parent(s) are. You don't turn that love off and on, depending on whether or not a certain person is the father or mother. That was a cold and cruel thing for him to do.


ITA, but maybe he thinks that he has no legal right to Sydney and without Nicole, he can't have Sydney so maybe he thinks he has to shut her out? I don't know. I haven't seen the show yet where he talks with Lexie and she will probably help him see how stupid he's being with regard to Sydney (or maybe Sami will help with that). I assume he'll change his mind about Sydney once the blood pressure in his brain lowers a little.

#55   2009/10/09 03:27AM
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Misstayliana
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Quote alane70:
Quote Sunnyflower:
Quote magicsteacher:
Quote bigtimesoapfan: So our shows should be about cheap hookups? The days of true love conquers all are done? Personally I find it all kinda sick that @ this point half the town has slept together!! I call that CHEAP!! and degrading! Just like EJ's charecter! Him throwing out syd was the last straw for me!
And actually to answer your ? When I was a teen I unfortunaltley did look to my shows to teach me!(thats why my kids don't watch!!)




And as a high school teacher, I can tell you that young people are so influenced by soaps and other shows that they watch. They are not yet mature enough in many ways to distinguish what is real and what is not and look up to these soap stars. Many who watch are as young as 11 or 12 years old and have little parental supervision when watching.
They do not need to watch abusive behavior like EJ is displaying or a man kicking his baby out of the house. They need positive role models.
As far as sweet romance and devoted love between people in love being boring-- not for me. I find it refreshing and wonderful.


Well, as a human being, I think that is ridiculous. Children aren't stupid and it is up to the parents and other adults in their lives to teach them right and wrong, not a soap opera. For heaven's sakes.


If anyone, of any age, watches a soap for any reason other than entertainment, I am shocked. There is rarely anything redeeming about a soap. Even if you hate EJ & love Rafe, Rafe may or may not have killed his fiance, he is one of many men Sami slept w/out of wedlock (there are parents who discourage this). . . the only people who are worthy of true respect are never on the show - Alice & maybe Caroline (although Caroline cheated on her husband!). If the morals, or lack thereof, of the show or the characters bothers you, I can't imagine why you watch. That must be frustrating. They do show Little House on the Prairie & Andy Griffith reruns I believe.


Fantastic post,your spot on..

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