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Um, yes. Salem is full of sinners, secrets, betrayal, and paternity/maternity errors. And those are just from some of Salem's most upstanding citizens. Unless Sami is a dangerous murderer and abuser, then, yes, she deserves to be a mother of Sydney. |
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Quote Tammer: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. HAHAHA you amuse me! Not once did I say it couldn't happen, what I said was she didn't plan on it happening. Furthermore where did I say Sami was my favourite character? Surely you jest! Just a quick piece of advice, leave the personal comments to posters out of your posts, things stay friendlier that way. When you sleep with someone it should ALWAYS be in the back of your mind that conception is possible. That is just being responsible. Like I said before, I learned that in junior high. It amazes me that grown adults are ignoring this fact. Also I never said Sami was YOUR favorite character, I said she used to be MY favorite character. Here's a little piece of advice from me...read an entire post carefully before getting in defensive mode. |
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Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. I am still going back to the idea that protection during sex goes both ways. It is not the sole responsbility of the woman. Apparently, EJ used no protection, didn't care whether or not he made a baby either. If he had taken responsiblity, Sydney would not have been conceived. Of course protection isn't the sole responsibility of the woman. But wouldn't it have been wise to have taken a peak to see if he was wearing protection and stopped if he wasn't? And YES, EJ was just as much to blame for not wearing protection. My whole point in this is that all the dangers of the Dimera family, which Sami was completely aware of especially since they just had that silly vendetta storyline, didn't seem to bother her at the time that Sydney was concieved yet she still thought it prudent to hide EJ's child from him. |
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Quote tugboat77: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. I am still going back to the idea that protection during sex goes both ways. It is not the sole responsbility of the woman. Apparently, EJ used no protection, didn't care whether or not he made a baby either. If he had taken responsiblity, Sydney would not have been conceived. Of course protection isn't the sole responsibility of the woman. But wouldn't it have been wise to have taken a peak to see if he was wearing protection and stopped if he wasn't? And YES, EJ was just as much to blame for not wearing protection. My whole point in this is that all the dangers of the Dimera family, which Sami was completely aware of especially since they just had that silly vendetta storyline, didn't seem to bother her at the time that Sydney was concieved yet she still thought it prudent to hide EJ's child from him. Both of them are equally at fault for the conception of Sydney. That there was no protection is a moot point now. I think she slept with E.J. because at that time E.J. appeared to be moving closer to Sami and her family and lessening his involvement with his dad (lets not forget he also chose to keep his dad in a drug induced coma), I think Sami slept with him because he was being the man that she originally (when he first came to Salem) thought he was. It really wasn't until he got with Nichole that he started being a DiMera again. When he got with Nichole he went back to work for his father but by then Sami was already pregnant and when she saw this, it scared her. Mother's (most) have an instinct to protect their children by whatever means necessary. Sami chose to have her baby, not abort it. A man has no say in if women can have abortions (I don't agree with abortions). I think that the fact that she didn't abort the child gives her every right in the world to her child. She wanted that baby. |
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Quote Danielle: Quote tugboat77: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. I am still going back to the idea that protection during sex goes both ways. It is not the sole responsbility of the woman. Apparently, EJ used no protection, didn't care whether or not he made a baby either. If he had taken responsiblity, Sydney would not have been conceived. Of course protection isn't the sole responsibility of the woman. But wouldn't it have been wise to have taken a peak to see if he was wearing protection and stopped if he wasn't? And YES, EJ was just as much to blame for not wearing protection. My whole point in this is that all the dangers of the Dimera family, which Sami was completely aware of especially since they just had that silly vendetta storyline, didn't seem to bother her at the time that Sydney was concieved yet she still thought it prudent to hide EJ's child from him. Both of them are equally at fault for the conception of Sydney. That there was no protection is a moot point now. I think she slept with E.J. because at that time E.J. appeared to be moving closer to Sami and her family and lessening his involvement with his dad (lets not forget he also chose to keep his dad in a drug induced coma), I think Sami slept with him because he was being the man that she originally (when he first came to Salem) thought he was. It really wasn't until he got with Nichole that he started being a DiMera again. When he got with Nichole he went back to work for his father but by then Sami was already pregnant and when she saw this, it scared her. Mother's (most) have an instinct to protect their children by whatever means necessary. Sami chose to have her baby, not abort it. A man has no say in if women can have abortions (I don't agree with abortions). I think that the fact that she didn't abort the child gives her every right in the world to her child. She wanted that baby. You make very good points. These are the kind of posts I like to read. I also think that a good debate is healthy and just proves how much we all love this show. To everyone else, please don't take offense to any of my posts. We all have a right to our opinions and are not always going to agree on everything but we CAN agree that this is a great show. The fact that it evokes such emotion in its fans speaks volumes for the show itself. Have a great day |
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Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. HAHAHA you amuse me! Not once did I say it couldn't happen, what I said was she didn't plan on it happening. Furthermore where did I say Sami was my favourite character? Surely you jest! Just a quick piece of advice, leave the personal comments to posters out of your posts, things stay friendlier that way. When you sleep with someone it should ALWAYS be in the back of your mind that conception is possible. That is just being responsible. Like I said before, I learned that in junior high. It amazes me that grown adults are ignoring this fact. Also I never said Sami was YOUR favorite character, I said she used to be MY favorite character. Here's a little piece of advice from me...read an entire post carefully before getting in defensive mode. Every adult knows that sometimes when things get hot and heavy, they don't think about those kind of details. EJ & Sami were hot a heavy that night. This is soapland, not high school health class. Take care "tug" |
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Quote Ejamilover: Quote MandyL: I can't believe that there are still people out there who don't think Sami should be a mother to Sydney. She hasn't done anything wrong! SHE is the victim in all this, not Nicole or even EJ for that matter! EJ is the only victim here not Sami or Nicole they are the ones that told all the lies. EJ lost a daugther for real Nicole lost is baby and he knew about it as for Sami i find hard how anyone can feel sorry for her after the spiteful thing she did to EJ. Well i guess the hatred for EJ is so great that most people will take Sami side here. To me she is sick i mean telling about Grace after she was dead that she was his daughter Sami never even let say goodbye to her. Its going to be so sweet when the truth comes out she will finally get her Karma because she is going be shattered now many she will realise how EJ felt when she lied to him about Grace. Actually, I AM an EJami fan. I just think Sami is getting the raw end of the deal. You're basically saying that it's ok for Sami to not be a mother to Sydney because of what she did in regards to Grace. Isn't that hypocritical? Sami is the one who's daughter was taken from her at birth BY Nicole! Sami is the one who agonized because she believes her daughter died. The only person that deserves to be destroyed by Karma in this story is Nicole! She's gotten away with this for far too long. |
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Quote tugboat77: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. I am still going back to the idea that protection during sex goes both ways. It is not the sole responsbility of the woman. Apparently, EJ used no protection, didn't care whether or not he made a baby either. If he had taken responsiblity, Sydney would not have been conceived. Of course protection isn't the sole responsibility of the woman. But wouldn't it have been wise to have taken a peak to see if he was wearing protection and stopped if he wasn't? And YES, EJ was just as much to blame for not wearing protection. My whole point in this is that all the dangers of the Dimera family, which Sami was completely aware of especially since they just had that silly vendetta storyline, didn't seem to bother her at the time that Sydney was concieved yet she still thought it prudent to hide EJ's child from him. And Sami is known for making impulsive decisions at times and not always using the best judgement. IMO, Sami made an impulsive decision that night with EJ. She was upset over Lucas staying in prison and made a choice without thinking it through. If she would have stepped back and thought about it, I don't think she would have slept with him. By the time she found out she was pregnant and had seen the mayor murdered, she realized that the family was continuing to do evil things and that's why she made her decision to keep the pregnancy from EJ. |
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Well YES!!!!! She is the mother of Sydney, how would you like it if someone did that to you????????? No matter what kind of a person Sami is it is still her daughter. |
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Yes she does. She deserves to have her baby back. |
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Looking at this in Sami's defense. |
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Quote Tammer: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote tugboat77: Quote Tammer: Quote magicsteacher: Quote tugboat77: Quote racingfan: Sami has made bad choices yes and she never said ej was a bad father the reason she chose to keep grace away from ej was because of stefeno and jealousy didn't have anything to do with her deciding not to tell ej the day that stefeno and ej had phillip shot and should sami be concerned that her children should be raised to put hits out on people yes she's not concerned so much with thier safety it is who stefeno raises them to be. Kidnapping and shooting people or having people shot or locking the compition for a woman in a freezer truck or saving someones life in exchange for sex and ej says sami is worse then him or his father please I've said it once and I'll say it again...EJ being a Dimera and Stefano's son didn't seem to bother Sami when she was on her back concieving Sydney did it? No. This bullcrap about protecting Grace from the Dimeras by not telling EJ about her is just that, a bunch of crap. OK--- she had a booty call. She found out that Lucas was not coming back to her, so she turned to EJ for sex. We have all heard of one night stands. This doesn't mean that she didn't know what kind of man he was-- she did. And as soon as Lucas saw them, she jumped out of bed and she and EJ never "got together" again. I can't imagine any woman not wanting to protect her child from murders, kidnappers, and thieves. Here, here ITA!! It's not like she knew she was conceiving a child when she had sex with EJ...and wanting to protect your child from being brought up in a, murderous family like that is no crap! Seriously? One of the first things I ever learned in junior high health class was that it only takes one time to make a baby. No offense but that is a very naive statement. I understand being a fan of a certain character. I've said before that Sami was my all time favorite character on the show for over a decade. Actually I've still got a mad crush on Allison Sweeney lol. But please don't allow your intelligence to fly out the window over your love for a fictional character. HAHAHA you amuse me! Not once did I say it couldn't happen, what I said was she didn't plan on it happening. Furthermore where did I say Sami was my favourite character? Surely you jest! Just a quick piece of advice, leave the personal comments to posters out of your posts, things stay friendlier that way. When you sleep with someone it should ALWAYS be in the back of your mind that conception is possible. That is just being responsible. Like I said before, I learned that in junior high. It amazes me that grown adults are ignoring this fact. Also I never said Sami was YOUR favorite character, I said she used to be MY favorite character. Here's a little piece of advice from me...read an entire post carefully before getting in defensive mode. Every adult knows that sometimes when things get hot and heavy, they don't think about those kind of details. EJ & Sami were hot a heavy that night. This is soapland, not high school health class. Take care "tug" That's exactly what all my friends call me |
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Quote snanax4: Looking at this in Sami's defense. 1-Lucas told her to move on and she thought he was in jail for a looooong time. 2-Stefano was in a catatonic state, thanks to Marlena, and not around or likely to be there to interfere. 3-EJ had proven he was trying to change for Sami's sake. 4-EJ always wanted another child with Sami, and not just because he wanted another Dimera heir. 5-Sami and EJ were falling in love. EJ already was in love with her, as he is now. 6-Sami could have had an abortion, BUT DIDN'T 7-Sami is a good mother and loves and fights for her children, regardless of any other fault she may have. Just my opinions!!! Couldn't have said it better myself, |
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Quote bghwme: Sami had to tell EJ that Grace was his after she died. Grace was gone, and Sami was devasted and grief-stricken beyond description. Then, EJ showed up ready to be all sweet and loving and comforting...How could she accept comfort and support from him with him not knowing that it was his child that lay in that casket? That just would not have been right. On the other hand, you have Nicole letting him go through all the grief and torment that he is going through, knowing full well that EJ's daughter is not dead. Sami has come clean, told the truth, faced EJ's wrath, and accepted responsiblily for her actions. Nicole is still running around lieing, covering, telling more lies, getting people killed, paying out the nose, intimidating and manipulating to protect her secret. I agree with you. And there were a few times that Sami DID try to tell Ej that he was Grace's father, before she died and he seemed to do something each time to make her mad or give her more reason to not tell him the truth. I really hope that Sami and Ej can come to some kind of middle ground on this. Nicole on the other hand, has done exactly the same to Ej as Sami has plus some. At least Sami gave Ej the opportunity to greive with everyone else about Grace. He was not given the opportunity to greive with Nicole over their baby girl. She only gave that opportunity to Brady. Ej has gotten the short end of the stick, all the way around, but he has brought some of it on himself. And Sami has tried to correct her wrong, she just ran out of time to do it before Grace died. I really think she would have told Ej the truth eventually. She was constantly battling back and forth about telling him. Syd belongs with Sami, and Ej deserves equal time with her, like he has with Johnny. |
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Quote Ejamilover: When i think about this was the child she was planning to Rafe to raise and let him adopt her if Nicole hadn't switched babies EJ would of never of know he had a daughter. Why should EJ show her any compassion when the truth comes out? She never cared about his feelings she still treats as someone who not even a human being telling him to get over losing Grace the other week you i hate saying this but i am so happy Sami lost all this time with Sydney because she is going a broken woman when she finds out Nicole made a fool out her. No sane mother would ask this question! This is really all wrong and I recognize this thread seems started by someone who has never had a child or ever lost a child. Look at all the missing children in this world do you think every mother deserved not to be with their child? I am amazed by what you just asked? Then answered the way you did. How can any mother deserve losing time with their child. SAMI wanted to protect her child. The number one rule for all parents is to protect their child! I realize society has some issues as the news over the years which has shown parents causing all harm to their children. Soaps are giving people ideas and promoting this behavior by demonstrating it over, and over. Which is one reason why I despise this baby swapping. This is one cause that we need to stand behind. There should not be any harm to any child! Stealing children, swapping children, harming children really needs to have serious punishment. Instead of putting our energy into this thread, we should donate to saving missing children! We need more than milk cartons to stop this. |
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