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Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?

Started by Ejamilover at 2009/09/19 01:35PM
Latest post: 2009/09/23 12:25AM, Views: 1464, Replies: 60
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#11   2009/09/19 06:24PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
everybodysmile
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Quote Bellaflor:
Quote Ejamilover:
Quote bghwme: Sorry. But, because of the circumstances Sami was given; I do not think she did anything wrong..unless you go all the way back to the night she forgave EJ for raping her and then turned around a slept with him. That was a poor choice, but she was pretty much tricked into it.

After that, Sami became a DiMera Victim. She was doing everything she could to prevent her child from becoming a DiMera victim too. Everytime she convinced herself that perhaps she was wrong, EJ did something to scare her away.

I think Rafe went a little too far in wanting to "illegally adopt" Sami's child, but he really did love Grace and thought of himself as her father. He could not have loved her more if she had been his. His only motive was also to protect Grace, and Sami from becoming DiMera Victims again.

Nicole STOLD Sami's child right out of the delivery room. In fact, she deliberately set out to steal everything she THOUGHT Sami had. Then she taunted her and rubbed her nose in it. Nicole is so wrong!

Of course Sami deserves to be a mother to Sydney.


Sami knew EJ was a great father so that excuse is crap that she protecting her from the Dimeras this all because she was jealous that EJ moved on with Nicole. Let face it she is a horrible and spiteful woman telling EJ he had a daughter after it died what a sick and twisted woman. It wouldn't better for her not to say anything at all she did it so she twist the knife in him she loved seeing him in pain.

Sami was never tricked in sleeping with EJ what rubbish she wanted him that she even told Lucas its amazes me how the Ejami haters love to blame EJ for all Sami's wrongs she not inocent at all she knew what she was doing when she bedded EJ and used no protection the little tramp just couldn't resist him.




I beieve Sami deserves her daughter not just because she is the biological mother but simply because she is a gr8 mother. She protects her children and IMO has matured significantly.......her decisons in the past were questionable, but no I don't think EJ is to blame. I think Sami should be responsible for her own actions. Now did EJ's actions affect Sami's decisions??? I think they did.... but he is not to blame for her decisions.

Now I find it interesting that if we comment about EJ or disagree with some opinions we are automatically EJAMI HATERS....hate is a pretty strong word and let's not generalize.

Yes, I love SAFE but that does not mean I hate EJAMI

BTW just a question, please do not take this offensive.....if Sami is such an evil person for what she did to EJ during Grace's death...why do you wish for her to be with him in a relationship?


Good point. If Sami is so evil why would anyone want her with EJ or Rafe or Lucas, either?
Hypothetical thought! Had Sami never told Rafe that Grace was his child and somehow EJ found out Sami was Sydney's biological mother would he be all rightous about it or would he decide to keep the truth from her?
Sami would have told EJ the truth but then she found that Philip had been shot and knew EJ knew and was involved. Also step brother Brady was beaten. Her cousin Stephanie was kidnapped.
Sami is not a threat to Sydney. Stephano was ready to harvest Johnny for his stem cells to save his said lif. So Sami is the evil one?
I think this storyline is going to be one of heartache for a lot of people including Mia.
And the victim here IS SYDNEY.

#12   2009/09/19 06:46PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
magicsteacher
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Quote everybodysmile:
Quote Bellaflor:
Quote Ejamilover:
Quote bghwme: Sorry. But, because of the circumstances Sami was given; I do not think she did anything wrong..unless you go all the way back to the night she forgave EJ for raping her and then turned around a slept with him. That was a poor choice, but she was pretty much tricked into it.

After that, Sami became a DiMera Victim. She was doing everything she could to prevent her child from becoming a DiMera victim too. Everytime she convinced herself that perhaps she was wrong, EJ did something to scare her away.

I think Rafe went a little too far in wanting to "illegally adopt" Sami's child, but he really did love Grace and thought of himself as her father. He could not have loved her more if she had been his. His only motive was also to protect Grace, and Sami from becoming DiMera Victims again.

Nicole STOLD Sami's child right out of the delivery room. In fact, she deliberately set out to steal everything she THOUGHT Sami had. Then she taunted her and rubbed her nose in it. Nicole is so wrong!

Of course Sami deserves to be a mother to Sydney.


Sami knew EJ was a great father so that excuse is crap that she protecting her from the Dimeras this all because she was jealous that EJ moved on with Nicole. Let face it she is a horrible and spiteful woman telling EJ he had a daughter after it died what a sick and twisted woman. It wouldn't better for her not to say anything at all she did it so she twist the knife in him she loved seeing him in pain.

Sami was never tricked in sleeping with EJ what rubbish she wanted him that she even told Lucas its amazes me how the Ejami haters love to blame EJ for all Sami's wrongs she not inocent at all she knew what she was doing when she bedded EJ and used no protection the little tramp just couldn't resist him.




I beieve Sami deserves her daughter not just because she is the biological mother but simply because she is a gr8 mother. She protects her children and IMO has matured significantly.......her decisons in the past were questionable, but no I don't think EJ is to blame. I think Sami should be responsible for her own actions. Now did EJ's actions affect Sami's decisions??? I think they did.... but he is not to blame for her decisions.

Now I find it interesting that if we comment about EJ or disagree with some opinions we are automatically EJAMI HATERS....hate is a pretty strong word and let's not generalize.

Yes, I love SAFE but that does not mean I hate EJAMI

BTW just a question, please do not take this offensive.....if Sami is such an evil person for what she did to EJ during Grace's death...why do you wish for her to be with him in a relationship?


Good point. If Sami is so evil why would anyone want her with EJ or Rafe or Lucas, either?
Hypothetical thought! Had Sami never told Rafe that Grace was his child and somehow EJ found out Sami was Sydney's biological mother would he be all rightous about it or would he decide to keep the truth from her?
Sami would have told EJ the truth but then she found that Philip had been shot and knew EJ knew and was involved. Also step brother Brady was beaten. Her cousin Stephanie was kidnapped.
Sami is not a threat to Sydney. Stephano was ready to harvest Johnny for his stem cells to save his said lif. So Sami is the evil one?
I think this storyline is going to be one of heartache for a lot of people including Mia.
And the victim here IS SYDNEY.




Your post has many good points. If Sami is so terrible, then why would anyone want her with any of the men in Salem?
Of course, Sami deserves to be Sydney's mother. She carried and protected that child with her life for 9 months, doing anything she had to do to keep her safe. It is not Sami's fault that Nicole lost her baby, faked her pregnancy, and stole Sami's baby. Maybe not telling EJ and having Rafe adopt Grace wasn't the best idea, but none of it was done with malice intended. Sami did it to protect her child from the Dimeras and EJ is a Dimera and part of the evil things they do.
And, in this day and age, I find it amazing that anyone would say that a woman "bedded a man and didn't use protection". I believe that isn't only the responsibility of the woman. It is equally the responsibility of the man. Apparently, EJ didn't think to use any protection either or Sydney would not have been conceived.

#13   2009/09/19 06:48PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
Danielle
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Quote everybodysmile:
Quote Bellaflor:
Quote Ejamilover:
Quote bghwme: Sorry. But, because of the circumstances Sami was given; I do not think she did anything wrong..unless you go all the way back to the night she forgave EJ for raping her and then turned around a slept with him. That was a poor choice, but she was pretty much tricked into it.

After that, Sami became a DiMera Victim. She was doing everything she could to prevent her child from becoming a DiMera victim too. Everytime she convinced herself that perhaps she was wrong, EJ did something to scare her away.

I think Rafe went a little too far in wanting to "illegally adopt" Sami's child, but he really did love Grace and thought of himself as her father. He could not have loved her more if she had been his. His only motive was also to protect Grace, and Sami from becoming DiMera Victims again.

Nicole STOLD Sami's child right out of the delivery room. In fact, she deliberately set out to steal everything she THOUGHT Sami had. Then she taunted her and rubbed her nose in it. Nicole is so wrong!

Of course Sami deserves to be a mother to Sydney.


Sami knew EJ was a great father so that excuse is crap that she protecting her from the Dimeras this all because she was jealous that EJ moved on with Nicole. Let face it she is a horrible and spiteful woman telling EJ he had a daughter after it died what a sick and twisted woman. It wouldn't better for her not to say anything at all she did it so she twist the knife in him she loved seeing him in pain.

Sami was never tricked in sleeping with EJ what rubbish she wanted him that she even told Lucas its amazes me how the Ejami haters love to blame EJ for all Sami's wrongs she not inocent at all she knew what she was doing when she bedded EJ and used no protection the little tramp just couldn't resist him.




I beieve Sami deserves her daughter not just because she is the biological mother but simply because she is a gr8 mother. She protects her children and IMO has matured significantly.......her decisons in the past were questionable, but no I don't think EJ is to blame. I think Sami should be responsible for her own actions. Now did EJ's actions affect Sami's decisions??? I think they did.... but he is not to blame for her decisions.

Now I find it interesting that if we comment about EJ or disagree with some opinions we are automatically EJAMI HATERS....hate is a pretty strong word and let's not generalize.

Yes, I love SAFE but that does not mean I hate EJAMI

BTW just a question, please do not take this offensive.....if Sami is such an evil person for what she did to EJ during Grace's death...why do you wish for her to be with him in a relationship?


Good point. If Sami is so evil why would anyone want her with EJ or Rafe or Lucas, either?
Hypothetical thought! Had Sami never told Rafe that Grace was his child and somehow EJ found out Sami was Sydney's biological mother would he be all rightous about it or would he decide to keep the truth from her?
Sami would have told EJ the truth but then she found that Philip had been shot and knew EJ knew and was involved. Also step brother Brady was beaten. Her cousin Stephanie was kidnapped.
Sami is not a threat to Sydney. Stephano was ready to harvest Johnny for his stem cells to save his said lif. So Sami is the evil one?
I think this storyline is going to be one of heartache for a lot of people including Mia.
And the victim here IS SYDNEY.

I agree with you. E.J. raped Sami to get the stem cells for Stephano. The only thing that stopped him from killing Johnny was that he fell in love with Sami. Yet Sami is the evil one. A man that would've been perfectly happy with killing his unborn child. If he had not fallen in love with Sami, there wouldn't have been a Johnny. I guess this is all part of being a saint. Sami did everything to protect her children from the DiMeras (Johnny, Ali, Grace) but yet she is the evil one. E.J. raped to get Johnny and was going to kill him for his father, the only thing that stopped him was his love for Sami. Your right Ejamilover he is the best father out there. When Johnny is older he can tell him, I raped your mother, then I was going to have you torn from her womb so that your grandfather could live, I guess your lucky I fell in love with her or you wouldn't be here today. Should make for some great bed time stories.

#14   2009/09/19 08:53PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
Misstayliana
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Quote bghwme: Sami had to tell EJ that Grace was his after she died. Grace was gone, and Sami was devasted and grief-stricken beyond description.

Then, EJ showed up ready to be all sweet and loving and comforting...How could she accept comfort and support from him with him not knowing that it was his child that lay in that casket? That just would not have been right.

On the other hand, you have Nicole letting him go through all the grief and torment that he is going through, knowing full well that EJ's daughter is not dead.

Sami has come clean, told the truth, faced EJ's wrath, and accepted responsiblily for her actions.

Nicole is still running around lieing, covering, telling more lies, getting people killed, paying out the nose, intimidating and manipulating to protect her secret.

I absolutely agree.. The scenes with Ali and James were fantastic, when he conforted her and she told him the truth about Grace and his reaction.. I actually had tears for both of them (yeah i know it's only make believe but I'm a sookie la la when it comes to tragic s/l's).. Nicole is soon to be found out and the last episode that I saw,Rafe's just realised the truth so hopefully won't be long now..I just hope Nicole doesn't bugger off with Sydney, Sami and Ej have been grieving long enough for the daughter neither of them have lost.

#15   2009/09/19 10:59PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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sami deserves to have Sydney and rafe back i cant stand nicole or e.j. that family has been bad for yrs. and come on people this is a soap if rafe adopted grace how would that be illegal it's tv they dont follow laws like we do in real life.i hope nicole looses sydney and e.j.

#16   2009/09/19 11:30PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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I disagree with most of you which may have a lot to do with me being a guy I don't know. I personally tend to enjoy the "bad" guys and the action on this show much more than the sappy, goodie goodies, and love scenes. The crazy storylines are the reason I started watching this show in the first place.

I personally feel that Nicole is a MUCH better mother than Sami has ever been and that Sydney is better off where she is. Before I get slammed, let me say that if this were real life, obviously Sami would deserve to get her child back. However since most of us on these boards are able to recognize that this is a fictional show with fictional characters, I stick with my opinion that Sydney is better off with Nicole and EJ. Let's face it, Sami can't handle the three she already has. They are hardly ever with her. She drove her oldest so crazy that he moved half way around the world. She has a different man in her life every six months or so. Sorry she just can't handle another child in her life right now, especially a baby. Nicole did her a huge favor when she swapped those kids.

By the way, Sami was hands down my favorite character on Days for more than a decade until recently. She used to be tough and did whatever it took to get what she wanted (much like Nicole which is why they always hated each other because they were so much alike). But now she is so whiney and acts like she is nothing unless she has a man in her life. She used to be the only Brady that I could stand to watch but now I just don't really like the character anymore.

#17   2009/09/19 11:33PM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Also to everyone that keeps talking about E.J. "raping" Sami....do you remember that Sami is a rapist also? She drugged Austin to sleep with him many years ago. That is rape.

#18   2009/09/20 05:52AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Quote Daysrulz: I am sooo tired of everyone saying poor Sami...Does everyone forget what Sami did with Belle. She was going to sell her because, after she changed the paternity, she knew that she was Johns. But guess that was ok because she was protecting her Dad. What about keeping Will from Lucas, and Austin thinking will was his....oh yeah, Sami wanted Austin so that must make it all OK too!! Ej is just a evil as his father. He and Nicole make the perfect pair...cuz all she cares about is $


Sami was very young when that happened. She was trying desparetly to keep her famly together and she felt that baby Belle was the reason they were falling apart.

#19   2009/09/20 06:18AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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In Salem YES Sami deserves her baby! LOL In real life probably not so much..

Sami loves her children, she has not always done the right things but who has in soap land or real life?

#20   2009/09/20 06:29AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Yes, Sammie deserves to be a mother to Sydney. Nicole is the one that doesn't deserve to be a mother.

#21   2009/09/20 07:01AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Quote tugboat77: Also to everyone that keeps talking about E.J. "raping" Sami....do you remember that Sami is a rapist also? She drugged Austin to sleep with him many years ago. That is rape.





I don't think anyone here forgets the incident with Sami and Austin , but as was said, Sami was young when that happened; EJ was an adult in his late 20's or early 30's. I am not saying that her age excuses what she did, it doesn't. But just b/c that is what Sami did many years ago, does not make it OK for EJ to have done it. One wrong does not excuse another.

#22   2009/09/20 07:46AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
JennAddis
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Quote magicsteacher:
Quote tugboat77: Also to everyone that keeps talking about E.J. "raping" Sami....do you remember that Sami is a rapist also? She drugged Austin to sleep with him many years ago. That is rape.





I don't think anyone here forgets the incident with Sami and Austin , but as was said, Sami was young when that happened; EJ was an adult in his late 20's or early 30's. I am not saying that her age excuses what she did, it doesn't. But just b/c that is what Sami did many years ago, does not make it OK for EJ to have done it. One wrong does not excuse another.


Sami being young is just an excuse, she knew darn well what she was doing wrong. But really who cares what she or Ej did? (in the past) the question was does Sami deserve to be a mother NOW?

AND yes she does have every right to be a mother to Sydney. IMO

#23   2009/09/20 10:28AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
tugboat77
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Quote magicsteacher:
Quote tugboat77: Also to everyone that keeps talking about E.J. "raping" Sami....do you remember that Sami is a rapist also? She drugged Austin to sleep with him many years ago. That is rape.





I don't think anyone here forgets the incident with Sami and Austin , but as was said, Sami was young when that happened; EJ was an adult in his late 20's or early 30's. I am not saying that her age excuses what she did, it doesn't. But just b/c that is what Sami did many years ago, does not make it OK for EJ to have done it. One wrong does not excuse another.


Where in my post did I even insinuate that what Sami did made it ok for EJ to do it?

#24   2009/09/20 10:55AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Nicole should be put in prison for kidnapping. She doesn't deserve that child, good mother to her or not. It's not her kid, plain and simple. She literally stole her. Her actions are horrendous, and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, I dont give a rat's butt what her excuses are. You don't steal someones child to get a man, how desperate is she? She is NOT Sydneys mother, Sami is. Nicol needs to be rotting in jail somewhere, not living the good life in the Mansion. It's disgusting.

#25   2009/09/20 11:36AM
Re: Does Sami deserve to be a mother to Sydney?
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Quote Ejamilover: When i think about this was the child she was planning to Rafe to raise and let him adopt her if Nicole hadn't switched babies EJ would of never of know he had a daughter.

Why should EJ show her any compassion when the truth comes out?

She never cared about his feelings she still treats as someone who not even a human being telling him to get over losing Grace the other week you i hate saying this but i am so happy Sami lost all this time with Sydney because she is going a broken woman when she finds out Nicole made a fool out her.


this has to be a trick question right?. Sami has every right to know her bio daughter is alive.She also has a right to be a mother to her own bio daughter.Her bio daughter was taken snatched,switched with another new born.By a woman who has toatlylost it from the time she lost her own child.


Yes sami kepted the fact she was carrying ej's second child from him and everyone eles.Granted he had a righ to know.BUT Sami said it was because of Steffino she did it because she knows what he is like and what he would do.


So it's okay for her baby to be taken from her and made belive her daughter died.in fact it wasn't even her dauther that died.Put her through alot of heck.


That to me is wrong on so many levels---Saying the bio mom does not deserve to be a mother to her own bio child.All because of what she has done to Ej and in the past.NO MOTHER DESERVES THAT!.

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