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i don't like the way rafe...

Started by j+sforever at 2009/06/19 10:23AM
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#11   2009/06/21 04:48PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote DaysKnowItAll:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.



Excellent post! Rafe was her father. No doubt. I looked at the older eps when Rafe n Sami were in WP and he tried to get her to tell over n over n over. Rafe just figured she must be right b/c of all the evil things the Dimeras have done. Even in the hospital he told Sami if she thought there was something Ej could do...and she cut him off and said no, the dr. said...etc. And at the funeral he didn't want Grace disrespected and knew Ej would, which he did. Kudos to Rafe for keeping his cool for the sake of Grace. I have a feeling though Ej might have awakened a storm inside Rafe and once the grieving eases for Rafe, Ej might find he bit off more than he could chew! It's coming I'm sure b/c the writers have went all out in trying to make Rafe act mild and then all the hints of him once being an angry man. All I can say is sit back and enjoy the show SAFE fans!!




Right on!! I think Rafe is a lot more than the cool cucumber we have seen so far!!! I don't think he has any qualms about taking on EJ and letting him know who is boss. I am ready to see it all unfold.

#12   2009/06/21 07:51PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote Sunnydaz:
Quote luvinej:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


He wouldn't have had the chance if Ej would have been told the truth. She would have known her real father. Ej would have had the time to get to know Grace and he would have been supportive of Sami like Rafe was at the funeral. Sami and Rafe robbed him of getting to know and love his daughter. Rafe should have been a man about it and told Sami to be honest instead of talking her out of it all the all time. He still could have been there for her and Grace without trying to play God with peoples lives.


For starters Rafe was complying to Sami's request about not telling EJ. So dont blame him. When they were in WP she repeatedly told him she didnt want him to know.

Secondly i think EJ should have shown Sami some respect by trusting Johnny with her when she asked for him while he was in the mist of a kidnapping and murder attempt. Sami knows what he's capable of so instead of feeling sorry for himself he should be admitting he's been wrong and blame himself for the secret.


I'm not saying that EJ is perfect, but Rafe definitely isn't either. They all have flaws. I was just stating the fact that if they had let EJ know his daughter Rafe wouldn't have been the only father figure that Grace knew. And Sami did want to tell him many times and she was talked out of it.

#13   2009/06/22 04:44AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote luvinej:
Quote Sunnydaz:
Quote luvinej:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


He wouldn't have had the chance if Ej would have been told the truth. She would have known her real father. Ej would have had the time to get to know Grace and he would have been supportive of Sami like Rafe was at the funeral. Sami and Rafe robbed him of getting to know and love his daughter. Rafe should have been a man about it and told Sami to be honest instead of talking her out of it all the all time. He still could have been there for her and Grace without trying to play God with peoples lives.


For starters Rafe was complying to Sami's request about not telling EJ. So dont blame him. When they were in WP she repeatedly told him she didnt want him to know.

Secondly i think EJ should have shown Sami some respect by trusting Johnny with her when she asked for him while he was in the mist of a kidnapping and murder attempt. Sami knows what he's capable of so instead of feeling sorry for himself he should be admitting he's been wrong and blame himself for the secret.


I'm not saying that EJ is perfect, but Rafe definitely isn't either. They all have flaws. I was just stating the fact that if they had let EJ know his daughter Rafe wouldn't have been the only father figure that Grace knew. And Sami did want to tell him many times and she was talked out of it.


Sami decided on her own to tell EJ. She also decided on her own not to tell him. Let's remember that it was Sami who rushed to the church on EJ's wedding day to tell him. However, when she discovered that he had ordered the hit on Philip she decided to never tell. She realised that a man who could stand in a church on his wedding day while plotting a murder was not someone who she wanted raising her child. I also want to point out the day EJ told Sami, "Just take your orphan and leave." To me that spoke volumes about his character. He took a a pot shot at what he believed to be an adopted child. Low. Very very low. Who does that?

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#14   2009/06/22 05:41AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Finally, somebody realized that Sami was trying numerous times to tell EJ, granted her timing and motives for doing so totally stunk. As for the remark EJ said about Grace being an orphan child, even if it were true, the way it was stated made Rafe look even better.

#15   2009/06/22 06:06AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote soapsurfer:
Quote luvinej:
Quote Sunnydaz:
Quote luvinej:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


He wouldn't have had the chance if Ej would have been told the truth. She would have known her real father. Ej would have had the time to get to know Grace and he would have been supportive of Sami like Rafe was at the funeral. Sami and Rafe robbed him of getting to know and love his daughter. Rafe should have been a man about it and told Sami to be honest instead of talking her out of it all the all time. He still could have been there for her and Grace without trying to play God with peoples lives.


For starters Rafe was complying to Sami's request about not telling EJ. So dont blame him. When they were in WP she repeatedly told him she didnt want him to know.

Secondly i think EJ should have shown Sami some respect by trusting Johnny with her when she asked for him while he was in the mist of a kidnapping and murder attempt. Sami knows what he's capable of so instead of feeling sorry for himself he should be admitting he's been wrong and blame himself for the secret.


I'm not saying that EJ is perfect, but Rafe definitely isn't either. They all have flaws. I was just stating the fact that if they had let EJ know his daughter Rafe wouldn't have been the only father figure that Grace knew. And Sami did want to tell him many times and she was talked out of it.


Sami decided on her own to tell EJ. She also decided on her own not to tell him. Let's remember that it was Sami who rushed to the church on EJ's wedding day to tell him. However, when she discovered that he had ordered the hit on Philip she decided to never tell. She realised that a man who could stand in a church on his wedding day while plotting a murder was not someone who she wanted raising her child. I also want to point out the day EJ told Sami, "Just take your orphan and leave." To me that spoke volumes about his character. He took a a pot shot at what he believed to be an adopted child. Low. Very very low. Who does that?


Finally someone got it. EJ keeps complaining how he never got to know Grace, and that was really his own fault. He always claimed that Sami was a friend, and the way he treated his "friend's kid" was appalling in of its self. You just don't treat a "friend's" kid that way. It just goes to show why Sami didn't tell EJ, whether she was right or wrong in her decision.

#16   2009/06/22 06:09AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
magicsteacher
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Quote soapsurfer:
Quote luvinej:
Quote Sunnydaz:
Quote luvinej:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


He wouldn't have had the chance if Ej would have been told the truth. She would have known her real father. Ej would have had the time to get to know Grace and he would have been supportive of Sami like Rafe was at the funeral. Sami and Rafe robbed him of getting to know and love his daughter. Rafe should have been a man about it and told Sami to be honest instead of talking her out of it all the all time. He still could have been there for her and Grace without trying to play God with peoples lives.


For starters Rafe was complying to Sami's request about not telling EJ. So dont blame him. When they were in WP she repeatedly told him she didnt want him to know.

Secondly i think EJ should have shown Sami some respect by trusting Johnny with her when she asked for him while he was in the mist of a kidnapping and murder attempt. Sami knows what he's capable of so instead of feeling sorry for himself he should be admitting he's been wrong and blame himself for the secret.


I'm not saying that EJ is perfect, but Rafe definitely isn't either. They all have flaws. I was just stating the fact that if they had let EJ know his daughter Rafe wouldn't have been the only father figure that Grace knew. And Sami did want to tell him many times and she was talked out of it.


Sami decided on her own to tell EJ. She also decided on her own not to tell him. Let's remember that it was Sami who rushed to the church on EJ's wedding day to tell him. However, when she discovered that he had ordered the hit on Philip she decided to never tell. She realised that a man who could stand in a church on his wedding day while plotting a murder was not someone who she wanted raising her child. I also want to point out the day EJ told Sami, "Just take your orphan and leave." To me that spoke volumes about his character. He took a a pot shot at what he believed to be an adopted child. Low. Very very low. Who does that?




ITA. Not telling EJ was Sami's decision. Rafe, while they were in witness protection, told her several times that she should tell him, but Sami refused. She had decided not to tell EJ long before she met Rafe. As she told her dad, "Rafe's only crime was realizing why i didn't want my daughter raised by a man like EJ". And when Sami decided to go to the church that day to tell EJ about Grace, she did so knowing that Rafe was leaving and she was going to do it anyway. So, we shouldn't be blaming Rafe for this whole mess-- Sami did what she did b/c she believed it was the right thing for her child and IMO-- she made the right decision. Rafe, because he loves Sami, did what he did to help and support her and he is still there for her. He will help her fight this whole mess no matter what.

#17   2009/06/22 06:34AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote hootaboi:
Quote Cedes_28: I don't think Rafe telling EJ not to attend the funeral was to protect Sammi, but rather respect for Grace's death. and common courteousy, it's a funeral for goodness sakes!!! save the arguments and fights for later. that's very tacky to bring one to a funeral.


I agree, It seemed like on Today's episode (6/19/09) all EJ wanted to do was make everyone mad - (I LOVE what Roman said to him today) Awesome Awesome!


Me too! And did you see how Bo looked at Roman while he said that to EJ? Those Brady men are great. I love that Roman is willing to do whatever it takes to keep his family safe. I'd want hin on my side in a fight ANY time

#18   2009/06/22 06:43AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote Babs_1955:
Quote hootaboi:
Quote Cedes_28: I don't think Rafe telling EJ not to attend the funeral was to protect Sammi, but rather respect for Grace's death. and common courteousy, it's a funeral for goodness sakes!!! save the arguments and fights for later. that's very tacky to bring one to a funeral.


I agree, It seemed like on Today's episode (6/19/09) all EJ wanted to do was make everyone mad - (I LOVE what Roman said to him today) Awesome Awesome!


Me too! And did you see how Bo looked at Roman while he said that to EJ? Those Brady men are great. I love that Roman is willing to do whatever it takes to keep his family safe. I'd want hin on my side in a fight ANY time




I was so glad they banded together especially when EJ said to Roman and Bo,"all the Bradys of the world, banded against me. Well, it won't do a damed bit of good". That was a threat if I ever heard one and i was glad that Bo stepped in and said, "This is a church, Junior". They need to band together with Lucas and Rafe to bring him down.

#19   2009/06/22 09:09AM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
luvinej
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Quote soapsurfer:
Quote luvinej:
Quote Sunnydaz:
Quote luvinej:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


He wouldn't have had the chance if Ej would have been told the truth. She would have known her real father. Ej would have had the time to get to know Grace and he would have been supportive of Sami like Rafe was at the funeral. Sami and Rafe robbed him of getting to know and love his daughter. Rafe should have been a man about it and told Sami to be honest instead of talking her out of it all the all time. He still could have been there for her and Grace without trying to play God with peoples lives.


For starters Rafe was complying to Sami's request about not telling EJ. So dont blame him. When they were in WP she repeatedly told him she didnt want him to know.

Secondly i think EJ should have shown Sami some respect by trusting Johnny with her when she asked for him while he was in the mist of a kidnapping and murder attempt. Sami knows what he's capable of so instead of feeling sorry for himself he should be admitting he's been wrong and blame himself for the secret.


I'm not saying that EJ is perfect, but Rafe definitely isn't either. They all have flaws. I was just stating the fact that if they had let EJ know his daughter Rafe wouldn't have been the only father figure that Grace knew. And Sami did want to tell him many times and she was talked out of it.


Sami decided on her own to tell EJ. She also decided on her own not to tell him. Let's remember that it was Sami who rushed to the church on EJ's wedding day to tell him. However, when she discovered that he had ordered the hit on Philip she decided to never tell. She realised that a man who could stand in a church on his wedding day while plotting a murder was not someone who she wanted raising her child. I also want to point out the day EJ told Sami, "Just take your orphan and leave." To me that spoke volumes about his character. He took a a pot shot at what he believed to be an adopted child. Low. Very very low. Who does that?


ITA with the orphan comment. If I was Sami I would have knocked him out cold. As for the rest of it I'm not sure we are watching the same show. We both must have rose colored goggles on.

#20   2009/06/22 12:34PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote speechless:
Quote UKDaysFan: bores me to death?

Sorry was just finishing the open ended question in the thread title. Carry on.


Best post here! LMAO!


Totally agree!

#21   2009/06/22 12:55PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote magicsteacher:
Quote Babs_1955:
Quote hootaboi:
Quote Cedes_28: I don't think Rafe telling EJ not to attend the funeral was to protect Sammi, but rather respect for Grace's death. and common courteousy, it's a funeral for goodness sakes!!! save the arguments and fights for later. that's very tacky to bring one to a funeral.


I agree, It seemed like on Today's episode (6/19/09) all EJ wanted to do was make everyone mad - (I LOVE what Roman said to him today) Awesome Awesome!


Me too! And did you see how Bo looked at Roman while he said that to EJ? Those Brady men are great. I love that Roman is willing to do whatever it takes to keep his family safe. I'd want hin on my side in a fight ANY time




I was so glad they banded together especially when EJ said to Roman and Bo,"all the Bradys of the world, banded against me. Well, it won't do a damed bit of good". That was a threat if I ever heard one and i was glad that Bo stepped in and said, "This is a church, Junior". They need to band together with Lucas and Rafe to bring him down.



And don't forget Stephanie! I think she'd be in on it and take em down! Yippiee!

#22   2009/06/22 01:51PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


If they didn't want EJ at the funeral then Sami should have kept her trap shut until afterwards. She knows who she is dealing with. She knew how he would react and that he would want to be there cause even she herself has said EJ is a good dad. Truth is she did want EJ there and that is exactly why she told him. She wants attention from him no matter if its good or bad. JMO

#23   2009/06/22 01:53PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote kktt:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.


If they didn't want EJ at the funeral then Sami should have kept her trap shut until afterwards. She knows who she is dealing with. She knew how he would react and that he would want to be there cause even she herself has said EJ is a good dad. Truth is she did want EJ there and that is exactly why she told him. She wants attention from him no matter if its good or bad. JMO


YUP! Great Post

#24   2009/06/22 01:54PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
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Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.



You are 100% right! Rafe was Grace's father. I would be scared if my baby's father was EJ...

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#25   2009/06/22 03:20PM
Re: i don't like the way rafe...
soapsurfer
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Quote taylorswift112:
Quote soapsurfer: Rafe was Grace's father. That baby was bonded to him and loved him just as much as he loved her. He had every right to want EJ to stay away. He knew EJ was going to make the funeral about himself and that the chance for disrespecting Grace's memory by EJ was more than possible. Despite Sami's culpability she deserved the opportunity to mourn her daughter without EJ slithering up during Communion no less to torment her.



You are 100% right! Rafe was Grace's father. I would be scared if my baby's father was EJ...


LOL...me too!

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