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This is really bothering me.......gonna vent

Started by kktt at 2009/06/17 02:06PM
Latest post: 2009/06/19 09:13AM, Views: 656, Replies: 20
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#1   2009/06/17 02:06PM
This is really bothering me.......gonna vent
kktt
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If Sami was really so scared and concerned about EJ and Stefano then why in the world would she admit Grace was his after she died. She knows the things his family has done putting hits on people and such so why would she tell him something that would make him so angry and possibly give him reason to kill her. She told him because she wanted his attention. She has been loosing it and she knows in her heart he loves her and would never do anything to harm her. He is so unbelievably angry right now and will take Johnny and try and cause her as much hurt as possible but I feel she believes anger from EJ is better than nothing from EJ. She has said time and time again EJ is a good father. She didn't tell him because she was jealous of Nicole plain and simple. She went to the wedding to intentionally tell him and hope she would get a reaction out of him. Why tell him now? It makes no sense whatsoever. They are not done. If she wanted to be done with him she would have buried her secret with her daughter. I watched the show years ago and just started back when the baby switch had just taken place. I feel I am somewhat of an outsider looking in and it just doesn't appear to me that she is done with him.

#2   2009/06/17 02:14PM
Re: This is really bothering me.......gonna vent
bmes
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why does anyone do the things they do this show?

nothing ever makes sense on soaps...

#3   2009/06/17 03:06PM
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Treester
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Sammi is an idiot, always was, always will be. I can't believe the lying that goes on, its preposterous. Its actually sickening.

#4   2009/06/17 04:50PM
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Cedes_28
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Sadly, Sammi tends to get a conscience whenever things tend to sour or turn a little tragic. quite frankly, her and Nicole ought to be friends, they both have a lot in common. as far as EJ goes, he doesn't love either one of them it's all about possession.that's the Dimera way.

#5   2009/06/17 04:54PM
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ejfan
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Quote kktt: If Sami was really so scared and concerned about EJ and Stefano then why in the world would she admit Grace was his after she died. She knows the things his family has done putting hits on people and such so why would she tell him something that would make him so angry and possibly give him reason to kill her. She told him because she wanted his attention. She has been loosing it and she knows in her heart he loves her and would never do anything to harm her. He is so unbelievably angry right now and will take Johnny and try and cause her as much hurt as possible but I feel she believes anger from EJ is better than nothing from EJ. She has said time and time again EJ is a good father. She didn't tell him because she was jealous of Nicole plain and simple. She went to the wedding to intentionally tell him and hope she would get a reaction out of him. Why tell him now? It makes no sense whatsoever. They are not done. If she wanted to be done with him she would have buried her secret with her daughter. I watched the show years ago and just started back when the baby switch had just taken place. I feel I am somewhat of an outsider looking in and it just doesn't appear to me that she is done with him.


I think you are right. I think Sami wants to keep the connection she has with EJ but she is afraid of him at the same time. She still has feelings for him as he does her. I think the part of him she fears is also the part of him that keeps here interested. JMO.

#6   2009/06/17 04:55PM
Re: This is really bothering me.......gonna vent
magicsteacher
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Quote Cedes_28: Sadly, Sammi tends to get a conscience whenever things tend to sour or turn a little tragic. quite frankly, her and Nicole ought to be friends, they both have a lot in common. as far as EJ goes, he doesn't love either one of them it's all about possession.that's the Dimera way.




As I have posted before, i think part of the reason she told him was because her character has changed. The old Sami would have kept on lying about it. But,let's not forget, Stefano knows the whole truth and would have gotten Sami eventually anyway. ITA with you that EJ doesn't love either Sami or Nicole. It's all about power and control over people and having people as possessions-- just like Stefano wanted with Marlena. It is, as you said, the Dimera way.

#7   2009/06/17 05:09PM
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JenLovesEJ
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I think she told EJ because she was so mad at herself and was blaming herself for Grace's death. Rafe was doing the nice thing and was trying to convince her that it wasn't her fault, which it wasn't, but that's not what she needed. She needed someone to be mad at her and with her.

#8   2009/06/18 06:49PM
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racingfan
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I agree that she blamed herself and that she knew he would but i also think that the main reason that she told him is because she wanted him to hurt with her not to hurt him but to have him hurt with her to be able to mourn thier daughter together because in her heart no matter how much rafe loved grace he wasn't her father ej was I do think that sami didn't tell ej a couple times because of jealousy but I don't think that is where she is anymore she knows that phillips hit was put out by ej on his wedding day and she doesn't have to protect grace anymore so it didn't hurt to tell him and i also agree that she took the cards out of stepheno's hands I still think ej is an idiot that he bought nicholes explination of why she said sami told you when he said sidney had a sister

#9   2009/06/18 06:51PM
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speechless
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Quote kktt: If Sami was really so scared and concerned about EJ and Stefano then why in the world would she admit Grace was his after she died. She knows the things his family has done putting hits on people and such so why would she tell him something that would make him so angry and possibly give him reason to kill her. She told him because she wanted his attention. She has been loosing it and she knows in her heart he loves her and would never do anything to harm her. He is so unbelievably angry right now and will take Johnny and try and cause her as much hurt as possible but I feel she believes anger from EJ is better than nothing from EJ. She has said time and time again EJ is a good father. She didn't tell him because she was jealous of Nicole plain and simple. She went to the wedding to intentionally tell him and hope she would get a reaction out of him. Why tell him now? It makes no sense whatsoever. They are not done. If she wanted to be done with him she would have buried her secret with her daughter. I watched the show years ago and just started back when the baby switch had just taken place. I feel I am somewhat of an outsider looking in and it just doesn't appear to me that she is done with him.


I did not see this post earlier but you are dead on! Thanks so much for posting!

#10   2009/06/18 06:57PM
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huntah
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[quote]Quote ejfan: [quote]Quote kktt: If Sami was really so scared and concerned about EJ and Stefano then why in the world would she admit Grace was his after she died. She knows the things his family has done putting hits on people and such so why would she tell him something that would make him so angry and possibly give him reason to kill her. She told him because she wanted his attention. She has been loosing it and she knows in her heart he loves her and would never do anything to harm her. He is so unbelievably angry right now and will take Johnny and try and cause her as much hurt as possible but I feel she believes anger from EJ is better than nothing from EJ. She has said time and time again EJ is a good father. She didn't tell him because she was jealous of Nicole plain and simple. She went to the wedding to intentionally tell him and hope she would get a reaction out of him. Why tell him now? It makes no sense whatsoever. They are not done. If she wanted to be done with him she would have buried her secret with her daughter. I watched the show years ago and just started back when the baby switch had just taken place. I feel I am somewhat of an outsider looking in and it just doesn't appear to me that she is done with him.[/quote]

I think you are right. I think Sami wants to keep the connection she has with EJ but she is afraid of him at the same time. She still has feelings for him as he does her. I think the part of him she fears is also the part of him that keeps here interested. JMO.[/quote]

ITA!!! Great post.

#11   2009/06/18 07:00PM
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Greek Godess
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This is a great thread. There is no point for Sami telling Ej after grace has died. I think she does want to keep some kind of connection to him. Anger is better than silence. She doesn't know any other way to hold on. She claims she loves Rafe, but she doesn't want to completely lose Ej. Like Ej said Rafe is the rebound guy, the only person oblivious to this is Rafe. But very soon will Rafe know he is, and Ej is the one Sami loves.

#12   2009/06/18 07:33PM
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DaysKnowItAll
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Quote Greek Godess: This is a great thread. There is no point for Sami telling Ej after grace has died. I think she does want to keep some kind of connection to him. Anger is better than silence. She doesn't know any other way to hold on. She claims she loves Rafe, but she doesn't want to completely lose Ej. Like Ej said Rafe is the rebound guy, the only person oblivious to this is Rafe. But very soon will Rafe know he is, and Ej is the one Sami loves.


I think you have something there. I believe she did love Ej at one point but I really believe it was more about the chase after that. I don't think she'll actually be in love with Ej again but really just likes the fact that he chases her. I also think she is in love with Rafe as she once was with Ej.JMO

#13   2009/06/18 07:40PM
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Sunnydaz
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Quote Treester: Sammi is an idiot, always was, always will be. I can't believe the lying that goes on, its preposterous. Its actually sickening.


Treester plz say your back for good.

Anywho....so if Sami is an idiot, always has, always will then i would imagine that you wouldnt want her with your beloved EJ, right?

#14   2009/06/18 07:55PM
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shellyjtkr
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Quote kktt: If Sami was really so scared and concerned about EJ and Stefano then why in the world would she admit Grace was his after she died. She knows the things his family has done putting hits on people and such so why would she tell him something that would make him so angry and possibly give him reason to kill her. She told him because she wanted his attention. She has been loosing it and she knows in her heart he loves her and would never do anything to harm her. He is so unbelievably angry right now and will take Johnny and try and cause her as much hurt as possible but I feel she believes anger from EJ is better than nothing from EJ. She has said time and time again EJ is a good father. She didn't tell him because she was jealous of Nicole plain and simple. She went to the wedding to intentionally tell him and hope she would get a reaction out of him. Why tell him now? It makes no sense whatsoever. They are not done. If she wanted to be done with him she would have buried her secret with her daughter. I watched the show years ago and just started back when the baby switch had just taken place. I feel I am somewhat of an outsider looking in and it just doesn't appear to me that she is done with him.


WOW!That is so true! I agree 100%!!!!!

#15   2009/06/18 08:23PM
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Luvdbi
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There is no logic in grief.

She was hurting, she had wanted to tell him for a long time, so she did.

Partly cause she wants him to hurt to, cause frankly a part of her is mad at him for being with Nicole, with now still having a child with Nicole when her daughter is dead. If she didn't at least want him away from Nicole she wouldn't have shown up at his wedding to tell him about Grace. There were other times she could have done so.

Also she feels guilty. She didn't have proper medical care in WPP, she left her daughter with the nuns, she hid the truth of her from everyone and it NEVER sat well with her. She's hurting and wants forgiveness and validation from the only other person who really should have a say - her daughters father.

Honestly all this aside, it moves the s/l along toward EJami. Had he found out any other way but by her it would have been even worse for EJami. He will eventually realize that she was right to try to protect Grace, when the truth about Nicole and Stefano comes out.

He won't discover Nicole from Nicole, he'll find out some out way and he'll realize she was never going to tell him or Sami. She was gonna to just let Sami live with the grief of loosing a child. She wasn't ever going to give him time to grieve for his child honestly. She played him for a fool and all just to win what she wanted.

He will find out that Stefano backed her, showing in the end he is just another chess piece to Stefano. He will realize that Stefano allowed him to grieve for a child that wasn't his while his actual child was buried months ago.

And he will look at Sami and realize she could have just gone on and NEVER told him. Yes she waiting too long, she didn't really give him a chance to say goodbye, but she had valid reason for hiding their daughter, and in the end she told him cause she should, not cause someone found out and exposed/blackmailed her. Not cause it was medically necessary for her to. Not to win him back, but simply cause she should.

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