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ej's regret

Started by j+sforever at 2009/06/13 12:37PM
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#1   2009/06/13 12:37PM
ej's regret
j+sforever
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yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.

#2   2009/06/13 01:27PM
Re: ej's regret
hootaboi
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Quote j+sforever: yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.


Safe or Lumi forever EJ is BETTER as a Villain!

#3   2009/06/13 01:34PM
Re: ej's regret
j+sforever
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Quote hootaboi:
Quote j+sforever: yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.


Safe or Lumi forever EJ is BETTER as a Villain!


lumi is played out. he never treated her right when they were together. he is only nice to her when they are just friends, and i for one would not want to see kate abuse sami anymore. that is also played out. and by the way i used to love lumi before ej came and i came to realize all these facts.

safe is just that safe. i tried to like them but he is just too good. boring. i think he would do better with someone else. also we really don't know him. everytime sami asks him a question he side steps it. he demanded to know all about her but he did't really share much in return. i smell trouble. big trouble.

#4   2009/06/13 01:41PM
Re: ej's regret
hootaboi
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Quote j+sforever:
Quote hootaboi:
Quote j+sforever: yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.


Safe or Lumi forever EJ is BETTER as a Villain!


lumi is played out. he never treated her right when they were together. he is only nice to her when they are just friends, and i for one would not want to see kate abuse sami anymore. that is also played out. and by the way i used to love lumi before ej came and i came to realize all these facts.

safe is just that safe. i tried to like them but he is just too good. boring. i think he would do better with someone else. also we really don't know him. everytime sami asks him a question he side steps it. he demanded to know all about her but he did't really share much in return. i smell trouble. big trouble.


Sounds like Rafe's past will be coming to light very soon..
And really? Lucas mistreated Sami? Did he not give her soo many chances? The fact that Sami would love someone who would force themselves on her rather than good person (compare to most in Salem) like Lucas is insulting

#5   2009/06/13 02:10PM
Re: ej's regret
j+sforever
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lucas knew what he was getting when he was with sami. yes, he gave her chances but did he ever stop to examine why she did what she did and help her. no he just blamed her and left to go find a women that he could place on a pedastal. those women always fell short too. he would always throw the first stone when he himself was far from perfect. he also had mommy dearest by his side making plans to ruin their life together. sami tried to bury the hatchet with kate but kate would stab her in the back instead. lucas almost alway would listen to kate about sami. there were only a hand full of times he really stood up for but it was just always to late to try and work on their relationship. i feel that in some ways sami also gave lucas chances but he too always blew them. they also did some really horrible stuff to each other over the years and now that the are friends he has been good just like he always is when they are friends. i however take issue with him telling other people about her secret and that includes chloe who uses sami as her personal hail mary in her marriage to lucas.

#6   2009/06/13 02:30PM
Re: ej's regret
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What EJ said: his regret was not being able to hold Grace's hand and tell her goodbye.

What EJ meant: he did not get to utilize another pawn to gain control of Sami.

Just quit teasing us all and make him either good or bad...I am tired of all this flip-flopping by the writers.

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#7   2009/06/13 02:43PM
Re: ej's regret
JenLovesEJ
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Quote lovesit: What EJ said: his regret was not being able to hold Grace's hand and tell her goodbye.

What EJ meant: he did not get to utilize another pawn to gain control of Sami.

Just quit teasing us all and make him either good or bad...I am tired of all this flip-flopping by the writers.



I don't believe that. I really think he's hurt at the loss of a child, especially since he didn't get a chance to know her. He was around her numerous times and never once knew she was "his" child. It's hard to say what the future holds in terms of EJ's relationship with his children but one thing is clear, he does love them. He would have loved Grace too, given the chance.

#8   2009/06/13 02:48PM
Re: ej's regret
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I for one think that EJ would been a great Daddy to Grace. The way that he protected Sami and the twins says alot. I also think that he will always love Sami.

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#9   2009/06/13 06:11PM
Re: ej's regret
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Quote j+sforever:
Quote hootaboi:
Quote j+sforever: yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.


Safe or Lumi forever EJ is BETTER as a Villain!


lumi is played out. he never treated her right when they were together. he is only nice to her when they are just friends, and i for one would not want to see kate abuse sami anymore. that is also played out. and by the way i used to love lumi before ej came and i came to realize all these facts.

safe is just that safe. i tried to like them but he is just too good. boring. i think he would do better with someone else. also we really don't know him. everytime sami asks him a question he side steps it. he demanded to know all about her but he did't really share much in return. i smell trouble. big trouble.




I think that we will find out soon that Rafe is not so boring. He is playing the character the writers want him to play right now-- the more stoic FBI guy - the writers don't want him to divulge much about himself or his past yet. I don't think there is that much bad about his past-- another woman? child? Sami has had others in her life, why wouldn't he? IMO it is one of the problems that SAFE is going to go through to become stronger, just like Grace's death.

#10   2009/06/13 09:26PM
Re: ej's regret
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You know what, I want the old Sami back. I hate that Sami is soft. Even though she still has fire in her. But the old Sami wouldn't given a rats ass whether or not Nicole was pregnant. The old Sami would've marched into that church and told EJ she was pregnant, just so Nicole wouldn't sink her teeth into EJ. And I love to see EJ and Sami, lie and manipulate just to get to the top. They were great together. Even Lucas made a comment, that EJ is the love of Sami's life. And I believe it.

#11   2009/06/16 04:49PM
Re: ej's regret
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I think ej/sami belong together. She was a "bad girl" and he's a "bad guy" so they fit(I can't wait to see everything backfire on Nicole, she doesn't deserve to be with EJ). You can tell they still have feelings for each other even if they're arguing. I hope this thing blows over soon so they can hook up again

#12   2009/06/16 05:02PM
Re: ej's regret
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Quote j+sforever: yes, what sami did was wrong in not telling ej that the baby was his when grace was dying. however, she was in denial about how sick grace was and she was still hopefull that she would live. sami was deeply invested in her own grief and just being ther for her daughter that i don't believe that she was thinking about elvis's connection to grace. it was not at done out of malice unlike what stepnhell and nichoe are doing to both ej and sami.

it was really sad to see how angrey the both were but it is understandable. however, you cannot take back some of the hurtfull things that ej said. i mean if he had never loved sami he would not have his children or know how to love them because his father is a twisted bitter old man.

sami was just trying to protect her unborn child. stepnhell and nichoe were both out to kill her. as one hired a hitman and the other would have killed her for being pregnant with ejs child. Remember nicole told chloe after "sydney" was born that she was glad she didn't know about sami's pregnancy because of what she would have done. and remember she did go to the convent to carry out the deed when she figured out that she could take the baby instead.
furthermore, ej was no help in protecting sami. he told her that his father couldn't possibly have killed the mayor and wanted her to stay at the mansion with stepnhell. also, he kept telling her that nichoe was not a threat and that what happened between her and nichoe was in the past. he believed that nicole was a great person.

however, i believe this is the begining of the unravel of the baby storyline and the eventual e/s reunion. this is allowing the writers to free up rafe's stroy (potentially shattering), to allow elvis after (his anger/revenge cools )to see wife/father for who they really are, and sami to find her real baby and her way back to ej and vice versa.
the e?s story will be learning to forgive the unforgivable and to learn how to trust again.



100% agree, and I think that this was part of Stefano's getting back at EJ. Sorry but if he loved his son, he would have told him. The wrath of EJAMI on Stefnic will be better if the writers do it right!

#13   2009/06/16 05:02PM
Re: ej's regret
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I can't wait till the whole truth is out so it can bite him in the arse! I hope Sammi files and wins full custody of her kids and tells him where to stick it!! I hope she remembers all teh awful things he and his family has done and kicks his arse firmly to the curb!! where he belongs!!

#14   2009/06/16 05:03PM
Re: ej's regret
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Quote mnlewis: You know what, I want the old Sami back. I hate that Sami is soft. Even though she still has fire in her. But the old Sami wouldn't given a rats ass whether or not Nicole was pregnant. The old Sami would've marched into that church and told EJ she was pregnant, just so Nicole wouldn't sink her teeth into EJ. And I love to see EJ and Sami, lie and manipulate just to get to the top. They were great together. Even Lucas made a comment, that EJ is the love of Sami's life. And I believe it.



ITA! The old Sami would never let Nicole get her man. The old Sami threw Nicole a$$ out and told EJ "You are my husband". I hate the way the writers are changing the character.

Sami and EJ are both bad when they want to be and they both bring the best out of each other.

Everyone says things they don't mean when they are angry, Sami said things that should have been said too. She was protect her daughter from a father like him, mean while she tells him what a dad he is to Johnny. He took care of Allie and she is not his, Lucas didn't do that with Johnny.

EJ loves his kids, nobody can deny that.

#15   2009/06/16 06:21PM
Re: ej's regret
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lumi is played out. he never treated her right when they were together. he is only nice to her when they are just friends, and i for one would not want to see kate abuse sami anymore. that is also played out. and by the way i used to love lumi before ej came and i came to realize all these facts.

safe is just that safe. i tried to like them but he is just too good. boring. i think he would do better with someone else. also we really don't know him. everytime sami asks him a question he side steps it. he demanded to know all about her but he did't really share much in return. i smell trouble. big trouble.[/quote]

I couldn't have said it any better.

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