The Bold and the Beautiful - MESSAGE BOARDS

Actually I had a stronger word in mind...but I'm tryin to be nice. I have to say though Ridge is being a jerk BIG TIME!! I am the first to say I have never been a big fan of Donna's, but this relentless pushing of Ridge's is a main factor in Eric's heart attack. Of that I have no doubt.

Eric and Stephanie built Forrester creations from the ground up. Eric has put his life blood into this company. For Ridge to pressure him to step down before he is ready is wrong. Ridge wants to blame all the finacial diffuclties the company is facing on Donna, but fair is fair. Donna is not the only factor. The economy is in the dumper right now, this would of course lead to problems in the fashion industry I'm sure. Even people that are wealthy are rethinking expensetures these days.

Add to that the fact that the market is up and down anyway it might just be a temporary lull. do I think Donna played a role? To some degree, sure. But the bottem line is she did not single handedly bring about all the problems Forrester is having right now. If the company did tank because of Donna then I'd say if Ridge and Brooke are al that smart and they think they can turn everything around just on their reputations let them start their own fashion house. If that took off I might be more inclined to agree with Ridge's assesment. However if that were to run into some of the same problems I would say Ridge was wrong.

I am sorry MD, but JJ is not the cause of anything here.

If Erwimp had used his head years ago, none of this would have happened. If he was so unhappy with Stephanie, he shouldn't have married her again, he is the one who lets himself get convinced into doing things that he doesn't really want... or does he even know what he wants.

How many times has he told his son that he would get the company someday? When then, when there was nothing left of it?

Just as Brooke did, Donna went after that dumb old coot just to get back at Stephanie... and just as with Brooke, that idiot placed everything on the shelf in order to appease his young bride. He knows that he is taking BP pills, Cholesterol-sinkers, those two alone are implimented in order to reduce the risks of stroke.. so.. he was already in danger.

He knows that the company is in distress, he flies out to NY and comes back disappointed and depressed. He takes his erection-pills and drinks alcohol. Donna riles him up and then brings his circulation to overdrive and is not to blame?

If she loved him so much, she would have taken the back seat and let him and his family take care of the business. Why does she need to be a power-house in FC? With what right? Just that she married the grounder? Does that give her the right to place him in so much crossfire? When and where did she get her business credentials... she never even ran a diner.. only ran about one....

She has alot to do with this coronary. A LOT!

She is just too stupid to know when not to go there, the man was completely shattered. His big speech about not giving up.....

The family has also put their digs in, but.. the man had accepted this, he agreed to it. When he told Donna that, she started in with her.. don't do it, They can't force you.. blah, blah, blah... even if she meant well, the man is old and when you see how hurt he is, depressed he is, tired he is, you just don't go there... you let him rest up, you tell him to take a couple days off before deciding and you make sure that he is eating right, sleeping properly.............

Ridge has very bad timing... he could have waited to blame Donna...I realize that he is seeing this as the closure of the bad-luck-circle he names Donna Logan, but he should have seen that she was crapping bricks.. that was not cool.

Still, I degress, if she would have at least read the documents that Stephanie gave her, maybe.. just maybe, Erwimp would have lasted a few months longer.

She, just like Brooke, has talked herself into believing that she loves Erwimp... and we know how that worked out. I am not buying it, I am not feeling sorry for her and if Erwimp would have died from this... it would have been his own fault... because he never could make up his mind without some woman in the background egging him on.

So and... Brooke and JJ have been in the business for many a year. It is my opinion, that THEY would have more insight in the trends of the brance than Donna ever could. With their experience, they could actually turn the red lines into black ones, they have experience and energy. They also have the family.. well, maybe with the exception of Rick, who also have the know how with the press and the customers...thus better in command, to turn their economic downs around.

Erwimp should not have been pressured by anyone, but if he can't handle it, it may just be.. that it is time to step down.

Who is at fault here? Erwimp alone!

If he was so unhappy with Stephanie, he shouldn't have married her again, he is the one who lets himself get convinced into doing things that he doesn't really want... or does he even know what he wants.
Well, I guess he is like most men, they want it all. He wants his family ( to be happy) and he wants to have an attractive woman, who makes him feel special. He says he loves Donna, and will aways care for Stephanie. I know that feeling, I have been divorced and remarried, and you will aways care for the mother of your children, I suppose in some ways he sill loves Brooke ( Bridget and Rick's mom.)

I don't think you can put the blame Owen, Donna, Ridge, or anyone. Eric is an older man and has failing health. It is really not wrong for him to want to have an active sex life, or to use male enhancement drugs. He knew the risk of using alcohol and taking medications. He also just may have came home early, from his trip because he wasn't feeling well. I know a little about heart problems and for the most part you have some warning signs before a heart attack.

As far as blaming anyone for F/C failing, I am sure it is a combination of things. I am not buying it is because he married a younger woman or a Logan. I would love to see Donna (Eric's inspiration for his most recent success) get the company going again.

A few days ago I was actually of the mind that it is maybe time for Ridge & Brooke to become the Forrester heads. At that time I thought Eric would be happy with that if he still had major input and still was head designer. He could travel or work, depending on his mood and still be the figurehead. Eric doesn't want that. Now with Ridge's bullyness and trying to illegally take the company I have changed my mind. If it was binding to have only one signature on that paper we could all draw up papers and sign them. By golly, we could own whatever we want.
I am sick of sanctimonious Ridge. Give me Donna with true feelings for Eric anyday over pompous Ridge.