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CLOSED: Be honest now!
Started by switzerland at 2008/06/19 08:35AMLatest post: 2008/06/24 09:23AM, Views: 1211, Replies: 48
Briar_Rose |
I think that everybody gets it when they see him. His dad must be black. |
calliope |
Regardless of race, it does seem odd that a sister would not have asked who the father was. They all grew up together and wouldn't you wonder if you had known him? |
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Briar_Rose |
I agree there, certainly. |
leighann |
Quote switzerland: Am I the one that would even ask the question about Marcus' race? I am black and it doesn't seem racist or prejudice or politically incorrect to pose that question! It is human nature to notice the differences in people! I commend the writers for not making it an issue but really now! I would have not been surprised in the least if someone had brought it up! As a society, we are trying to ignore someone's skin color but let's face it, we haven't gotten there yet! Maybe I'm wrong! I hope I am! I hope this doesn't make people uncomfortable because that wasn't my intention but it was just something I thought about! No, you are not the only one. It's human nature to be curious but off limits apparently to discuss the fact Marcus is black and Donna is white. I said this elsewhere - if Bell did not want to make this particular storyline about race and wanted the viewers to look upon all actors hired as just actors regardless of race or as if colorless and/or as if without a culture then all actors hired would be hired without matching the actors to the family i.e. Beth would have been hired if black, white, Asian, Indian, or Native American. One actor would not be singled out. Beth was not hired to be a diverse character or colorless. She was hired as a white woman to portray a white mother of white children. IF Bell wanted viewers to look beyond race another woman of a different race would have been hired to portray a character as if in a play. I have no idea why people are as sensitive as they are to discuss race as it pertains to Donna having a child who is black. If we want issues of racism to go away we must all use our voices to discuss the matters in an upfront and honest dialog and getting the viewpoints of all to make informed decisions related if not for our generation to make changes related when harm is done perhaps for the next. Not to discuss the fact on BB that Marcus is of a different race is "out of the norm" for Donna, and for her family who knows. There must be questions lingering in their minds. Obviously there was an issue related to her pregnancy that resulted in her mother having her spirited away from the family and hiding the pregnancy for 20 or more years and if not about race, the question becomes what else caused this to occur? IF Marcus were Black, Brown, White, Asian, obese, a woman wouldn't her family be asking him questions related to his past life, and of her about his father? All they are saying to basically to him is Hi, nice to meet with, don't say who you are, and now go back to work. 
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calliope |
I read a small piece on this actor in a soap mag. He said when he came to work the first day he saw photos of the cast on the wall. He looked them over looking for the woman who was to play his mother. He thought her photo wasn't there because he saw no black woman at all. Someone came over and pointed to a picture of Donna saying "this is your mother". He was amazed. Here was this young white sexy girl going to play his mom! He's lovin' it. |
colormebadd |
Quote Briar_Rose: I think that everybody gets it when they see him. His dad must be black. What should they have said: Brooke: Oh my goodness, your black! Marcus: Yes, I am Donna: I know, but his father's black and that's why. Brooke: Oh, okay, now I see. That would sound silly. I liked that they made Brooke seem a little taken aback when she realized that he was her son. She put 1 and 2 together.  Exactly, I mean he isn't exactly Stevie Wonder is he? I think he gets who he is and what color his father is. I'm just eager to find out what happened and what his father is all about. |
goodwitch1956 |
Quote Briar_Rose: I think that everybody gets it when they see him. His dad must be black. What should they have said: Brooke: Oh my goodness, your black! Marcus: Yes, I am Donna: I know, but his father's black and that's why. Brooke: Oh, okay, now I see. That would sound silly. I liked that they made Brooke seem a little taken aback when she realized that he was her son. She put 1 and 2 together. ITA it is so obvious why ask a question like that anyway she was with a black man period. |
Lizzylew |
Quote Touched: Why don't we all sit back and watch the show and not assume that someone or a character has a problem with another persons race, until they actually do. I didn't take Brooke's response as being prejudiced. She simply thought he was a worker interrupting a meeting. I believe she was very surprised to find out that the worker was Donna's son. I think if my (white) sister told me she had a baby, certainly my initial reaction would be surprise that that baby was not white also. That's not to say it couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't happen. It's just not expected. |
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colormebadd |
I am an African American woman and my family is extremely diverse, I have Hispanic, Italian and Asian family members and I'm not talking distant relatives either, I'm talking very close relatives and when we meet, we can see with our own eyes that they are biracial. We don't question anyone we accept our family and welcome them into the family because that's who they are family. I don't need to know nor am I blind to the fact that this can and will happen and I can also see it for what it is. I will not judge other peoples reactions if they have ever or never come across something like this but as for my family we just love and open our arms wide and are so happy and proud to meet our newest family members. I don't care or question color rather it is expected or not. Like I said I'm not judging anyone's opinions or reactions to this thread, I'm just expressing my own personal opinions based on my families experiences. |
samsgram |
Better be careful, guys. The last time some of us tried to have an intelligent adult conversation on this OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO CREATE CONTROVERSY story line (which is what you're doing), we got zapped and deleted. |
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colormebadd |
Quote samsgram: Better be careful, guys. The last time some of us tried to have an intelligent adult conversation on this OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO CREATE CONTROVERSY story line (which is what you're doing), we got zapped and deleted. The problem is, when the stupids arrive and start getting their behinds in an uproar, pretty soon your voices will be drowned out. There are those that are just too dense to understand the written word, and would love nothing better than to scream racism. They're the same kind of people who would scream "fire" in a crowded theater - you know the type. After the thread was closed, I quit posting in disgust. I love to chat on this board, all in all, but when a super genius posted (and I quote) "I have blacks in my family as we speak"....... I knew it was time for me to go. What you say is totally true, I stayed out of that 1st thread altogether because I knew where it was headed and when I checked it out a few days later it was closed because some posters got way out of hand. I was curious to see that 1 particular thread get so much attention while other threads barley make 3 pages on this board. |
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samsgram |
You're a smart cookie, colormebadd!! |
pointofview |
This is no different than wondering how two blond parents created a dark-haired child...and we all know that has happened on the soaps.... |
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swantje |
How old is Marcus? My guess would be about 16 or 18. So that makes his birth year the early 90s, right? AFAIR intermarriage wasn't forbidden at that time, but it was still frowned upon if your girl/boyfriend had a different race. Furthermore Beth was raised at a time, when afro-americans still had to use the back door and had special seats in busses and trains. That might explain BOTH why she made Donna give up the child and Donna's resistance to tell Eric just WHO the new employee is. If she wanted to, or not, Donna's mother must have given her the feeling that what she did was shameful and a disgrace to her family. |
boldbeautiful |
Quote swantje: How old is Marcus? My guess would be about 16 or 18. So that makes his birth year the early 90s, right? AFAIR intermarriage wasn't forbidden at that time, but it was still frowned upon if your girl/boyfriend had a different race. Furthermore Beth was raised at a time, when afro-americans still had to use the back door and had special seats in busses and trains. That might explain BOTH why she made Donna give up the child and Donna's resistance to tell Eric just WHO the new employee is. If she wanted to, or not, Donna's mother must have given her the feeling that what she did was shameful and a disgrace to her family.  I think Marcus is older than that, probably early 20's. I grew up in NY and saw multi-racial people all the time in the '80's. Maybe if she grew up in a small town, there might have been problems with discrimination, but she grew up in California. It's hard to believe that would be a big issue at the time she gave birth. |
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