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Redeeming Brooke.

Started by jcrobinson at 2007/06/07 04:55PM
Latest post: 2007/07/26 02:33PM, Views: 310, Replies: 13
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#1   2007/06/07 04:55PM
Redeeming Brooke.
jcrobinson
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I'm really starting to like her on her own. Remember years ago when she slipped away because of her shame for conceiving Deacon's child? During that time Stephanie befriended her and she became strong and vowed to be a new woman? I liked her then in the same way that I'm starting to like her now. I hope they don't have her toying with Nick while working on the bedroom line. Give her some morals!

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#2   2007/06/07 06:53PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
mdtuttle
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I really would like to see Brooke get some morals. The saddest thing about theway her charecter has been written is she has always had the potential to be a great character, but she ends up coming off like a floozie. It would be nice to see her act in a mature unselfish way for once.

#3   2007/06/07 07:01PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
renegade
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The thing that bothers me is that in the last year Taylor has been with Ridge, Brooke's daddy, Thorne, Nick, and almost Hector, yet she keeps her saintly status. Brooke, in the last year has only slept with Ridge and Nick, almost Eric in that two week, weak marriage. Yet, Brooke is so unredeemable. I think once a person has established a reputation as being good or bad, it sticks. People will only see what they want to see, no matter what that person does.

#4   2007/06/08 06:48AM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
jcrobinson
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I know what you mean, but soaps have been able to pull off some major character changes over the years. I think that Brooke really deserves one. I was thinking about the power of Stephanie's love for her children - most of the time it's very annoying to see, but it kept Felicia alive last year. She was redeemed for that period of time and her characer deepened for us to see. Why can't Brooke evolve in such a way. I think we'd all come to see her in a new light. Stephanie's childhood shed some much-needed light on why she is the way she is. Brooke has admitted that her troubled relationship with her father has made her needy in her adult life. I'm so ready to find more good in her!

#5   2007/06/08 06:53AM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
NGray1
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To me, I like her bad. Brooke is who she is. She's gotta reputation to uphold. Though I have lost respect for the character, I will never loose interest. She is who she is. And I will like her, and need to see her in the story always for that.

Just like Taylor, you can't have Taylor fall from grace too hard, she's always gotta be better then Brooke.

Stephanie, she was almost redeemed with her mother/father storyline, but you gotta get her back to that scheming and plotting, that's Stephanie.

I enjoy when they jump outside of character- like right now with Ridge, I love it, and I love when Brooke gets her slice of independence but please-

Keep Brooke the ho
Keep Taylor the selfrighteous saint
Keep Stephanie the Mother from hell
Keep Eric the blind dummy
Keep Ridge the "ladies man"

#6   2007/06/08 01:44PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
Bedroomeyes
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Quote renegade: The thing that bothers me is that in the last year Taylor has been with Ridge, Brooke's daddy, Thorne, Nick, and almost Hector, yet she keeps her saintly status. Brooke, in the last year has only slept with Ridge and Nick, almost Eric in that two week, weak marriage. Yet, Brooke is so unredeemable. I think once a person has established a reputation as being good or bad, it sticks. People will only see what they want to see, no matter what that person does.



If I may jump in here, Taylor has never been considered a saint to the fans that are drawn to her. It's only because Brooke has spend so many years in gutter that her rival has been considered saintly because her deeds were never as diasterly as Brooke. The years of comparisons of these two characters and the deeds that have been used in that comparison often times made Taylor look like a saint compared to Brooke. You can't blame Taylor for that, it was the deeds of Brooke that got her that reputation and status as below Taylor.

Now upon Taylor's return and ONCE she and Ridge were finished, yes, she pursued other relationships or encounters with men that had no committment or martial vows to break, so once again, Taylor being a sexually active woman still in no way made her look as bad as Brooke did for many years. Brooke major problem or downfall was the example she set for her children and her total disregard and neglect of her children due to her chasing these men or manipulating the situation surrounding her to get these men.

Brooke created her own reputation and Taylor lead her life as a married mother of three, she spent her years catering to her family, being a good wife and mother while Brooke spent her years trying to steal a woman's husband while stating his children will get over it in the most cold way possible.

That's just one of the reasons Taylor has been viewed as a better woman than Brooke, not because she's perfect or saintly, but because she did consider the people around her and not just acted on impluse.

#7   2007/06/09 01:58PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
daisyjo
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Brooke does change and then changes back again. That is what is so great about the character and to her credit the actress that plays her. You hate her one day, love her the next, and you always find yourself wondering what next. She keeps the show interesting. There are characters on soaps that you either love or hate but with Brooke, no matter what she does you eventually have sympathy for her.

#8   2007/06/11 01:08PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
Bedroomeyes
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Sorry, but I respectfully disagree, Brooke never changes, she always mouths that she wants to change and make a feeble attempt at looking as IF she wants change in her life,but she always goes right back to her old hateful and destructive ways. What Brooke is doing now, she did 20+ years ago, begging a man who's made his decision, putting men before her children, (example: Hell bent on having Ric remember shooting Grant with little to no concern about how this will effect him. Ridge right now is way more important than her son) This is constant with Brooke, she never, ever changes and I won't even get into her peering through windows and doors at married couples while phinning for the husband. What's different about this character now, it's the same ole same ole. AND I never, every sympathize with Brooke only her victims.

#9   2007/06/12 08:09PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
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I never really liked Brooke in the past. I actually have liked Brooke a little more when she married Nick. She seemed more natural around him, more unslefish in fact. I think Brooke realises now she made a mistake leaving Nick.I believe there may be hope for Brooke yet to become a better person.. I see Taylor adopting some of Brookes scheming ways.. and I prefer Brooke over Taylor.

#10   2007/06/12 09:09PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
1Sandy
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Quote sonia11: I never really liked Brooke in the past. I actually have liked Brooke a little more when she married Nick. She seemed more natural around him, more unslefish in fact. I think Brooke realises now she made a mistake leaving Nick.I believe there may be hope for Brooke yet to become a better person.. I see Taylor adopting some of Brookes scheming ways.. and I prefer Brooke over Taylor.


I agree with you on that one! Once Brooke was with Nick she seemed to have become a better person. Much more relaxed, happy, at peace with herself. She was even at one time wearing the jeans like Nick!
Even though I like Taylor too. I said it before: The writers made Brooke way too loose over the years going through every Forrester man, son-n-law, father(having kids with 3 different men: Eric, Ridge & Deacon.
But once Brooke fell in love with Nick -I also like her character so much better (I was sick of her & Ridge). I still say that Brooke & Nick belong together.
But I do not wish Taylor any pain from this. I was personally hoping that Taylor & Ridge would fall back inlove. Seems like the writers really tore them apart.So much for ALL THOSE YEARS MARRIED and Taylor practically dying to be sure to deliver those twin girls for RIdge.Everyone seems to forget how much Taylor LOVED and SACRIFICED for Ridge. They say that Ridge was Brooke's destinty -she loved him more than the world. If that was so true Brooke would not have been so loose & easy and have kids with (3) differnt men while waiting for Ridge. Now she wants Nick's baby.Funny thing now: That is what I actually wished for her. I wanted Brooke & Nick back together. I know Nick is happy with Taylor, but I feel his heart is STILL with Brooke. Baby or not! But it would be sad for Taylor to have it end with a baby growing inside her being Brooke's - that would be sick! But these writers need some sensitivity here for the real love and feelings to come out!

#11   2007/06/13 11:42AM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
Bedroomeyes
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The ONLY problem with that is Brooke didn't want to be a better a person, she wasn't happy being just Mrs. Nick Marone, her heart has always been set on being a Forrester. Nick gave Brooke more than Ridge ever did or could, he respected Brooke right off the bat, he accepted her flaws and all and loved her unconditionally. He demanded his family respected Brooke and let them know that it was either her or them, he never made any qualms about that. But did Brooke appreciate that, did she cherish that love admiration and devotion, HELL NAW!!! And that's why I don't feel sorry for her, Nick's not the first man that gave Brooke what ridge wouldn't, he's not the first that loved her unconditionally, that stood up for her to any and everyone. IMO, she's gone through her supply of good men, and what she ends up with now, is what she deserve. You get a certain number of good men in your life, what you do with them is on you, and Brooke has dogged out every single good man she's was forunate enough to come in contact with her.

Taylor deserves to be happy and Brooke free at this point in her life. She's missed out on alot of time with her children simply because she was trying to protect a woman that spent years trying to rip her family to shreds. Nick is happy with Taylor, much more so than he was with Brooke. While married to Brooke, Nick was acting like a crazy man, running around trying to save someone who didn't want to be saved. He was demaeaned down to stability and security by Brooke, that's all she referred to him as when she was talking to Stephanie and Ridge. She never once confessed this undying, unweavering love she's now harping on. NOT once did she talk about Nick the way she's talking about Nick to Ashley, not once did she tell Ridge and Stephanie all the things they she said to Ashley. She wanted Nick to be nothing more than security because she was telling Ridge he was the romantic love of her life.

Brooke's own words and actions proofed she never loved Nick, and now she's just charged up for the chase, to show up another woman in the I can take your man department, people deserved to be treated as something more than a prize a finish line.

#12   2007/06/14 05:40AM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
1Sandy
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Quote Bedroomeyes: The ONLY problem with that is Brooke didn't want to be a better a person, she wasn't happy being just Mrs. Nick Marone, her heart has always been set on being a Forrester. Nick gave Brooke more than Ridge ever did or could, he respected Brooke right off the bat, he accepted her flaws and all and loved her unconditionally. He demanded his family respected Brooke and let them know that it was either her or them, he never made any qualms about that. But did Brooke appreciate that, did she cherish that love admiration and devotion, HELL NAW!!! And that's why I don't feel sorry for her, Nick's not the first man that gave Brooke what ridge wouldn't, he's not the first that loved her unconditionally, that stood up for her to any and everyone. IMO, she's gone through her supply of good men, and what she ends up with now, is what she deserve. You get a certain number of good men in your life, what you do with them is on you, and Brooke has dogged out every single good man she's was forunate enough to come in contact with her.

Taylor deserves to be happy and Brooke free at this point in her life. She's missed out on alot of time with her children simply because she was trying to protect a woman that spent years trying to rip her family to shreds. Nick is happy with Taylor, much more so than he was with Brooke. While married to Brooke, Nick was acting like a crazy man, running around trying to save someone who didn't want to be saved. He was demaeaned down to stability and security by Brooke, that's all she referred to him as when she was talking to Stephanie and Ridge. She never once confessed this undying, unweavering love she's now harping on. NOT once did she talk about Nick the way she's talking about Nick to Ashley, not once did she tell Ridge and Stephanie all the things they she said to Ashley. She wanted Nick to be nothing more than security because she was telling Ridge he was the romantic love of her life.

Brooke's own words and actions proofed she never loved Nick, and now she's just charged up for the chase, to show up another woman in the I can take your man department, people deserved to be treated as something more than a prize a finish line.


You are so true in everthing you quoted!
It was sad - cause I remember since the VERY first day Brooke & Nick married all he wanted was her "unconditional" love. He was not asking for a stay-at-home-wife or some puppet. He simply ask her to please stay away from the Forresters. Which he knew how many times each of them hurt her (in more ways than one - including Ridge & Stephanie).
But you are right: She made her decision to go back to Forrester (anyone in a right mind would know that this WOULD NOT be good for a new marriage with (2) enemies).
She never put Nick's feelings in front. He wanted a family - she simply brushed him off (now she begs differ).
But I have to admit: I DID LOVE when they were 2getha!
Brooke was so much more a decent, normal, happy person.
I loved their days out w/ Hope and just hanging on the boat. That is why I do miss them together. I still see the love & chemistry between them. Not sure what will happen??
As for Taylor - I have always loved her character. Taylor always put her family first. She DID spend practically her entire life & marriage trying to protect it from Brooke trying to seduce Ridge (so many times) - especially with the "Brooke's Bedroom" line. Now Nick (of all people) wants her to set up shop with his company?? I am not so sure THAT IT a good idea. She admits NOW that she will leave them alone (ONLY cause there is a child involved). But what happens next: #1 - What if the eggs were Brooke's, #2 - What if Taylor miscarries, #3 - What if (like some other commenters are saying in the other blogs that "RJ" does end up being Nicks? - But I saw the episode when it was only Ridge, Brooke and the doctor that did the paternity test right there when RJ was born. BUT - and a BIG BUT: Isn't this the SAME DOCTOR that was in on it with Stephanie when she faked her heart attack? Clarke's son?
All these questions and concerns.
Bottom Line: In my personal opinion: I always wishes that Ridge & Taylor would find one another - cause basically I was getting so sick of Ridge & Brooke - BORING!
But I have to admit that I liked the relationship Brooke had and shared with Nick. Especially the very first time on his boat when she told him she loved him and not to leave. That (to me) was a great scene!
Brooke has tried to be a better person in so many ways, but there is always something or someone (Stephanie - example) that makes her change. But Brooke is Brooke.
You have to admit: Nick's mother Jackie accepted Brooke into her son's life "unconditionally" form the first date she met her and saw that her son was in-love with her.
With Stephanie (for the past 19 yrs I been watching) it has been an ongoing, uphill battle for Brooke with Ridge.
Funny thing though: Brooke still somehow to manage to snag Eric Forrester, have his (2) children, and get her nice little stock/piece of Forrester. So we can't EVER blame Stephanie for hating Brooke. That will never end!

#13   2007/06/14 09:21AM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
tjfarmer85
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My sister has always told me I'm crazy because I have always loved Brooke!!! I know she's got the name of sleezy but she is so genuine!!! And I love the self control she has right now... As far as her and Nick goes, I would give anything to see them together again.

Did anyone notice when taylor came back her lips and boobs were bigger? She isnt as inoccent as everyone makes her out to be.

i remember as a child watch b&b... my mom would say if ridge went to see taylor first he was gonna end up with brooke and the other way around... needless to say my mom was right... just thought that was funny.

anyhow i just wanted to say that i truly do love brooke!!!

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#14   2007/07/26 02:33PM
Re: Redeeming Brooke.
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The show let Brooke fall through the cracks in the middle 90s when Ridge was married to Taylor. It seemed at that point they lost interest in her character at the expense of building up Taylor's. From that point the writers had Brooke do all sort of sleazy things. I donot think her marrying Thorne for example was one of them I mean on Guiding Light Reva married Billy Lewis, Josh, and their father H.B. Lewis and got away with it. But for Brooke the low point was the Deacon storyline. Brooke herself knew that he was a no good bum who took advantage of Bridget but yet she had an affair with him and concieved Hope and the fallout behind that damaged her character. Plus over the last few years this on going thing with Bridget about Nick has not helped matters. It will be up to the writers to try to give her some dignity and self respect again. I donot think that the writers care though.

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