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shouldn't love be UNCONDITIONAL?
Started by swantje at 2009/10/07 01:14PMLatest post: 2009/10/09 08:17PM, Views: 392, Replies: 12
swantje |
Hi |
GMAB!
Touched |
The love between a parent and a child is unconditional! Adults always find a way to booger up a relationship by setting limits! |
vicc |
I think both. |
Tria |
katie should have known Bill was not interested in her best interest when he sign the documents without even dicussing it with her family first. It was sneaky and vindictive . Never ever turn against your family . Sure Donna and Brooke have higher positions and even more sucessful partners . But they didnt turn on their family to get ahead. |
shademorgis |
Brooke wins the prize for turning on family, her own daughter. Why is a bigger deal being made about Katie turning on her dimwit sisters and their dimwit husbands, than when Brooke stole her daughters husband. It just proves my theory that the writers think Brooke is Miss perfect, who can do no wrong, but sure can judge others. Same thing Stephanie and Taylor are constantly accused of. |
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vlinder |
I think you must be there for you family but why must it goes always coming from others. when we see some episodes ridge and eric and brooke diden't always care about the family so now when it is in there intrest the family question is o so holy. what did they with thorne and felicia? when ridge and brooke want to take over the compagnie did they think about thorne and felicia.and eric did he think about thorne. no ridge and brooke are holy and the other childeren that have more wright because they are also his childeren are they could and ask there opinion no it is ridge,brooke,donna and eric so they must not begin about how holy is the family because when it is in there best interest they don't look to the family. and when they lose everything (what i hope) we will see what will happen when that be happen ridge said he does not work for the compagnie anymore, I would like to see what happens are brooke and donna and eric also going away or are they staying. see how it goes but I think brooke is staying because she wants to be number 1. |
bbgirl |
Quote vicc: I think both. They have a lot of reason NOT to trust Bill Spencer, Jr. And-Why shouldn't they want to keep their positions? However Brooke said today--that Eric and Ridge have spent their lives making FC--it should stay in the family-- not be taken over by a Spencer. Bill Spencer, Sr. was a snake. Dollar Bill may be much like his father--he seems pretty ruthless. It is really about the family business being taken from the family.This is where you bring Stephanie up... She is really totally different circumstances. Stephanie failed at her marriage and caused chaos in the Business. However Stephanie is still at the core of FC troubles. Its not so much about keeping their positions as basically saying to their sister, "Do as I say, not as I do" and holding themselves up in a better light. Brooke didn't have any experience when she became CEO; not really. And when Eric was ill, he had no problem putting his trophy wife in charge of the company and Donna has absolutely NO experience...other than bedding the CEO. The fact that all of them are harping on experience is hypocritical. And we won't even get into the hypocracy of Ricky boy having more experience than Thorne to be President of that company. Now for Stephanie: First of all, it was Stephanie and Eric who spent their lives building FC. Yes, Ridge has toiled and spent his adult life helping to "maintain" that success, (as well as Thorne and to a certain extent Felicia) but he...and all the children...reaped the rewards of their parents hard work of building that Company into a powerhouse. The only "family" Brooke considers is her own. She said it herself...the Company was a "Logan Company run by Logan Women". Outside of Eric and Ridge, herself, Donna, Rick and Marcus...she could give a rats behind about any of the "other" Forresters in the family. I understand they essentially mean not an outsider...Bill or anyone else...but they are certainly hypocritical in who they consider "family". Please explain to me how it was Stephanie who failed at her marriage? I am tired of the PTB constantly using that male chauvanistic attitude that if a man cheats on his wife it somehow is her fault. SHE isnt understanding, SHE isn't supportive, SHE is cold, distant, controlling...blah blah blah. At every turn, Stephanie is made out to be the bad guy. Fine, use the argument that she trapped him into marriage all those years ago. There wouldn't even BE a FC without her family money. Maybe Eric went after her because Beth certainly didnt come from money and wasn't about to be able to provide any sort of capital for his lofty aspirations; think of that?? You could use the argument he saw a cash cow back then and used her for her money. And what did she get in return? A man who used her for his success, cheated on her over and over again, dumped her for a couple of blonde hotties who he then gave more credence and respect to in the very Company she helped create. Outside of the son who turned out not to be his, he turns his back essentially on ALL the children he had with Stephanie, and places more importance on his children with the bimbos at every turn. And then he booted her out the door, using the excuse that she causes too much divisiveness. Excuse me, the woman has always had better business savvy than he has and quite frankly, outside of the "scandal" of it all, she is not the reason they can't make any money. The Company is not a class couture house anymore, and it headed down that runway when Brooke's bedroom started. Sure it made money, but it wreaked of trashiness and not haut couture..plain and simple. Stephanie is not at the core of their problems; they all are. |
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Lady53 |
Quote bbgirl: Quote vicc: I think both. They have a lot of reason NOT to trust Bill Spencer, Jr. And-Why shouldn't they want to keep their positions? However Brooke said today--that Eric and Ridge have spent their lives making FC--it should stay in the family-- not be taken over by a Spencer. Bill Spencer, Sr. was a snake. Dollar Bill may be much like his father--he seems pretty ruthless. It is really about the family business being taken from the family.This is where you bring Stephanie up... She is really totally different circumstances. Stephanie failed at her marriage and caused chaos in the Business. However Stephanie is still at the core of FC troubles. Its not so much about keeping their positions as basically saying to their sister, "Do as I say, not as I do" and holding themselves up in a better light. Brooke didn't have any experience when she became CEO; not really. And when Eric was ill, he had no problem putting his trophy wife in charge of the company and Donna has absolutely NO experience...other than bedding the CEO. The fact that all of them are harping on experience is hypocritical. And we won't even get into the hypocracy of Ricky boy having more experience than Thorne to be President of that company. Now for Stephanie: First of all, it was Stephanie and Eric who spent their lives building FC. Yes, Ridge has toiled and spent his adult life helping to "maintain" that success, (as well as Thorne and to a certain extent Felicia) but he...and all the children...reaped the rewards of their parents hard work of building that Company into a powerhouse. The only "family" Brooke considers is her own. She said it herself...the Company was a "Logan Company run by Logan Women". Outside of Eric and Ridge, herself, Donna, Rick and Marcus...she could give a rats behind about any of the "other" Forresters in the family. I understand they essentially mean not an outsider...Bill or anyone else...but they are certainly hypocritical in who they consider "family". Please explain to me how it was Stephanie who failed at her marriage? I am tired of the PTB constantly using that male chauvanistic attitude that if a man cheats on his wife it somehow is her fault. SHE isnt understanding, SHE isn't supportive, SHE is cold, distant, controlling...blah blah blah. At every turn, Stephanie is made out to be the bad guy. Fine, use the argument that she trapped him into marriage all those years ago. There wouldn't even BE a FC without her family money. Maybe Eric went after her because Beth certainly didnt come from money and wasn't about to be able to provide any sort of capital for his lofty aspirations; think of that?? You could use the argument he saw a cash cow back then and used her for her money. And what did she get in return? A man who used her for his success, cheated on her over and over again, dumped her for a couple of blonde hotties who he then gave more credence and respect to in the very Company she helped create. Outside of the son who turned out not to be his, he turns his back essentially on ALL the children he had with Stephanie, and places more importance on his children with the bimbos at every turn. And then he booted her out the door, using the excuse that she causes too much divisiveness. Excuse me, the woman has always had better business savvy than he has and quite frankly, outside of the "scandal" of it all, she is not the reason they can't make any money. The Company is not a class couture house anymore, and it headed down that runway when Brooke's bedroom started. Sure it made money, but it wreaked of trashiness and not haut couture..plain and simple. Stephanie is not at the core of their problems; they all are. ICAM ~~ Great post, you said it all. |
Re: shouldn't love be UNCONDITIONAL?|
vicc |
You have your opinions and I am sticking with mine. |
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shademorgis |
Hey bbgirl, great post! I totally agree with everything you said. Steph may have made mistakes, but so did Eric. It takes two to tango. Erics answer was always doing what made him feel good. That man is a self-centered jerk for giving Stephanies part of the company to the Logan twits. Evem if Stephanie gave/sold it back to him, he is still despicable for using Steph, throwing her out, and giving everything to the needy moocher bimbos. |
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