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Reffy Redux! Spoiler!

Started by Touched at 2009/05/29 07:59AM
Latest post: 2009/06/01 03:02PM, Views: 1975, Replies: 25
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#11   2009/05/31 08:09AM
Re: Reffy Redux! Spoiler!
Touched
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I'm not saying that Rick doesn't have issues to deal with! He has major emotional problems that stem from abandonment and it's aftermath! Both father figures he looked to when he was young, were rarely there! He really needs to see someone other than the two who are highly deficient in their game!

What I can't understand is how his issues are a much bigger problem than Thomas' issues! Put simply Thomas attempted to kill someone and could have hurt or killed someone else in the process. He knew what he was doing because he tried to frame someone else, unfortunately, Pam got caught in his web. If Thomas had been successful, he would have been a murderer and Pam went to jail for his crimes! Thomas only got two weeks of intervention! Would you knowingly drive on the same road with an alcoholic who got two weeks of intervention? Honestly, does anyone think Thomas won't strike again?

How can anyone justify Rick's behavior as worse than someone who has tried to kill another person? Put it plain and simple, this is how it's justified!

Rick is Brooke and Eric's son and he's no good and can't be forgiven for the tricks he's been up to!

Thomas is Taylor and Ridge's son and he's a good person so he can be forgiven for intentionally trying to kill someone!

I'm going state this plain and simple! That is some screwed up thinking!

Thomas tried to kill twice and struck out both times! Whose to say he won't try again? Problem: What if he strikes out again? Somebody's out of the game!

#12   2009/05/31 09:40AM
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vicc
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I don't think that Rick's psychological issues are due to abandonment. I don't think he was abandoned.

You could say Thomas was abandoned--
but I don't believe that is his problem either.

It is apparent that both Rick and Thomas have psychological issues. I don't think the parents are at fault for their problems.

Parents cannot be blamed for everything in a person's life.
There are plenty of people (so to speak)who went through far worse and saw much less love and opportunity than those two...and didn't develop mental issues.

Rick has a dark, sinister, nasty side to his personality--
it has developed with a negative edge towards Ridge.
The Steffy--Rick SL is sick and needs to end for multiple reasons.

Thomas has an extreme disgust for Rick--and the role Rick has had in his family--he has anger issues.
You cannot say for sure that Thomas was trying to kill Rick the first two times (he said he was not)--though his thinking was twisted, irrational--and indeed could have led to a death.
If Rick continues to pursue Steffy--Thomas could go off the
deep end and develop a plan to kill rather than scare -to end Rick's pusuit on Steffy--and more negative involvement in his family.

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#13   2009/05/31 09:46AM
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shademorgis
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I believe that Rick and Thomas have problems. It all comes from their middle-aged parents still playing the its time for the old switcheroo game. Rick has never really had stability. I mean his mother has been married to his dad and stepbrother. And Thomas has gone through the Ridge/Taylor/Brooke triangle for years as well, No stability there either. I blame Eric and Ridge for all the turmoil. The children have been the victims here.

#14   2009/05/31 09:54AM
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vicc
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Quote shademorgis: I believe that Rick and Thomas have problems. It all comes from their middle-aged parents still playing the its time for the old switcheroo game. Rick has never really had stability. I mean his mother has been married to his dad and stepbrother. And Thomas has gone through the Ridge/Taylor/Brooke triangle for years as well, No stability there either. I blame Eric and Ridge for all the turmoil. The children have been the victims here.


Well if you are going to blame parents---be sure and not leave Taylor out---since she was gone for so long--not to mention her continued, serious relationship with Rick (while her daughter was not over him)--under her children's noses....and her great ability as a psychiatrist to see
her children's psychological issues and help them...
(oh yes--also her alcohol problem--and hiding the fact that she killed someone...)

I still say parents should not be the excuse as to why
these adults have mental issues.
These are people who have received a lot of love from parents and support in life...
It is due to their own psyche....their own personal issues.

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#15   2009/05/31 10:08AM
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shademorgis
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I agree that everyone is responsible for their own actions. I just think that when you have your parents seemingly in unstable relationships themselves-over and over-that it could create tensions within families. And Taylor and Brooke have both done questionable things themselves but I still blame Ridge more for going back and forth between the two women. If I were in a situation like this, I'd tell him to ???? or get off the pot!

#16   2009/05/31 02:40PM
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Touched
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I can't imagine anybody having a perfect childhood growing up! We all dealt with issues along the way. Unless there was some sick form of mental or child abuse, I'm sorry you just can't blame parents for the way their adult kids act. They should be able to get over it.

As for Thomas, he could say that he didn't know the fire would get out of hand the first time, but the second time required thought and intent. Thomas intended to kill! People will claim a lot to get out of trouble they caused themselves because they can't control their impulses!

#17   2009/05/31 06:59PM
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trixie60
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I agree with the fact that Rick and Thomas should not excuse their behavior because their parents did this and their parents did that. They are adults and they definately should know what they have done is wrong. Rick has some major issues that he has to deal with. Such as his hatred for Ridge. But it's time he should let that go and he should give up trying to tell Brooke that she shouldn't be with him because she's going to whether he likes it or not. Thomas was a good person and I say was because until now he has not done anything like attempted murder. I think that he probably was at his breaking point and he snapped because he couldn't take it any more. Not that I'm defending his behavior and I don't think this is at all justified. He needs to pay for what he did. He didn't kill anyone but he definately tried to and to say that he just tried to scare someone is probably a lie because the way that he did it and tried to do it a second time was not just trying to scare someone. It was definately planned. He needs to go back to therapy and stick with it until all his anger issues are dealt with. And Rick needs the same thing.

#18   2009/05/31 09:17PM
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michaelee
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I don't think that Rick's parents are to be blamed for Rick's behaviour. He has been rebellious and out of control ever since he got involved with his baby sitter, Amber Moore. His parents tried their best to get him from out of Amber's claws but to no avail. He was hell-bent on marrying Amber, who was desperate to get her hooks into the Forrester fortune. This is the reason why Rick found it easy to have affairs with older women like Ashley and Taylor and god knows who else while he was in France. In fact, it kind of surprised me that he went after the younger girls, Phoebe and Steffie.

As for Thomas, he didn't seem to have a problem with Brooke and her kids when she was helping to raise him and his sisters. The problem with Thomas lies with the fact that his mother and grandmother are constantly calling these family meetings to involve the children into plotting to get Ridge back. Maybe he blames Rick for the missed opportunity of Ridge and Taylor reuniting. At some point, the children will get resentful and Thomas certainly did.

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#19   2009/05/31 09:18PM
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shademorgis
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If the adult kids on this soap need to be perfect and pay for their mistakes, then WHY shouldn't Ridge, Brooke, Taylor, Stephanie, and Eric be good role models? It seems they all have dam near gotten away with murder themselves!

#20   2009/06/01 12:03PM
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Quote Touched: Just when Ridge thinks he's got things under control where Steffy is concerned, rebellion rears its' ugly head! Steffy is giving Rick a second chance to prove his love for her! Needless to say, Ridge flips! And, if it isn't enough, nutjob Thomas flips too, or whatever you call it, because the nutjob has been out of control for sometime!

Steffy's caught in the middle, but she's not alone! Brooke is siding with Ridge and standing against Steffy and Rick! This just drives Ridge closer to.....Taylor, whose waiting with open....well, you know what she's waiting with!

Look for it to become a much more volatile affair when Thomas finds Steffy and Rick together! OMG! Has he been stalking them, peeking into windows again, watching his own sister.....ewwwwwwww! Yes, he definitely comes from Ridge's loins! That is one sick puppy!


What the he!!???? So Brooke stays true to her word to Ridge over Rick and he STILL turns to Taylor???? What a SICK situation! I use to always want Ridge and Brooke to work things out and be a happy couple for once but if he can't stand up for his "wife" and tell Taylor to shut her trap and move on in life, then I hope it is BROOKE who dumps his sorry butt!

#21   2009/06/01 03:02PM
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Touched
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Quote GLfan85:
Quote Touched: Just when Ridge thinks he's got things under control where Steffy is concerned, rebellion rears its' ugly head! Steffy is giving Rick a second chance to prove his love for her! Needless to say, Ridge flips! And, if it isn't enough, nutjob Thomas flips too, or whatever you call it, because the nutjob has been out of control for sometime!

Steffy's caught in the middle, but she's not alone! Brooke is siding with Ridge and standing against Steffy and Rick! This just drives Ridge closer to.....Taylor, whose waiting with open....well, you know what she's waiting with!

Look for it to become a much more volatile affair when Thomas finds Steffy and Rick together! OMG! Has he been stalking them, peeking into windows again, watching his own sister.....ewwwwwwww! Yes, he definitely comes from Ridge's loins! That is one sick puppy!


What the he!!???? So Brooke stays true to her word to Ridge over Rick and he STILL turns to Taylor???? What a SICK situation! I use to always want Ridge and Brooke to work things out and be a happy couple for once but if he can't stand up for his "wife" and tell Taylor to shut her trap and move on in life, then I hope it is BROOKE who dumps his sorry butt!


Sorry, I meant she isn't siding with Ridge!

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