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Democratic no bash part 2

Started by cats meow at 2009/01/29 02:32PM
Latest post: 2009/11/21 06:19PM, Views: 17612, Replies: 1372
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#51   2009/02/15 10:59AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
cats meow
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the last 8 years were the worst we have had in my lifetime, no republician seems to remember that, blaming the dems and obama for everything and he hasn't been in office a month

#52   2009/02/15 11:07AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
wannazach
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Quote cats meow: the last 8 years were the worst we have had in my lifetime, no republician seems to remember that, blaming the dems and obama for everything and he hasn't been in office a month


The Republicans are in such a tizzy they don't know whether to sh#t or go go blind. They have been found out a as being a bunch of disorganized idiots who are in a scramble to find out wtf is really going on. They are having to pull each others head out of their ass and see the daylight for the first time in 8 years. The last 8 years has also been the worst ever in my lifetime. Thank God Bushy spend 3 of the 8 years on vacation in Crawford TX. If he had ACTUALLY been in Washington (where his job was) those 3 years who to h@ll know where we would be...

#53   2009/02/15 11:09AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
cats meow
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Quote wannazach:
Quote cats meow: the last 8 years were the worst we have had in my lifetime, no republician seems to remember that, blaming the dems and obama for everything and he hasn't been in office a month


The Republicans are in such a tizzy they don't know whether to sh#t or go go blind. They have been found out a as being a bunch of disorganized idiots who are in a scramble to find out wtf is really going on. They are having to pull each others head out of their ass and see the daylight for the first time in 8 years. The last 8 years has also been the worst ever in my lifetime. Thank God Bushy spend 3 of the 8 years on vacation in Crawford TX. If he had ACTUALLY been in Washington (where his job was) those 3 years who to h@ll know where we would be...


could not have said it better myself

#54   2009/02/16 06:51AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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What I really can't believe is all the mis-information out there about the stimulus package. One minute Republicans are spreading false information about what is in the bill, and the next they are claiming no one had time to read it.
I have a few problems myself with the bill, but lets's give it a chance!! Tax cuts do NOT stimulate the economy! The tired claim of trickle down, and free market economic has consistently proven to be a failure.

mediamatters.org/items/200902150006

On the February 15 edition of Fox News Sunday, Fox News Washington deputy managing editor Bill Sammon advanced the debunked claim that the economic recovery bill includes funding to protect the salt marsh harvest mouse in San Francisco wetlands, a falsehood previously forwarded by others on Fox News. Sammon said of the recovery bill: "People look at this thing and see, you know, some mouses being protected in [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi's district." In fact, even the House Republican leadership aide from whom the claim reportedly originated acknowledged that the bill does not contain any language directing funds to San Francisco wetlands or the salt marsh harvest mouse living in them.

As Media Matters for America has documented, the spurious mouse tale leapt from the House GOP to The Washington Times, several Fox News hosts, and at least one Fox News reporter. The falsehood also was repeated on CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, and in a graphic aired on Fox News' Hannity.

After writing that "there isn't any such money in the bill" for the mouse, The Plum Line blogger Greg Sargent wrote on February 12 that the claim originated in an email from a "House Republican leadership staffer" who, when contacted by Sargent, "conceded that the claim by conservative media that the mouse money is currently in the bill is a misstatement." San Jose Mercury News staff writer Paul Rogers subsequently reported on February 13 that Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), originated the claim and said that "[t]here is no language in the bill that says this money will go to this project."

#55   2009/02/16 08:39AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
cats meow
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hey luvin, how can these people constantly get way with this stuff? happens on our local radio too, i keep forgetting to listen the the station you told me too, now i wrote it down

#56   2009/02/18 07:49AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
cats meow
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i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you

#57   2009/02/18 08:04AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
alwaysEJ
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Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.

#58   2009/02/18 08:09AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!

#59   2009/02/18 08:12AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
alwaysEJ
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Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!



I answered her question. You are free to answer it as well. I like Nancy (Cats) & I usually read all of her posts b/c she shares good/interesting information. I didn't see any reason I couldn't answer the question she asked.

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#60   2009/02/18 08:15AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you


Cats in order to understand this you would have to dumb it way down...like Republicans do. Sorry but I can't do that.

I did find what Rachael Maddow asked a Republican Governer on her show last night pretty funny. She asked the governer since he was so opposed to the stimulus would he still be accepting the money. She said I am all for my taxes going to support my local law enforcement, but I wouldn't support or help a crooked cop. So if you were so against the stimulus why would you accept the money?
The governer didn't realy have an answer to that, but he will be taking the money!

#61   2009/02/18 08:18AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!



I answered her question. You are free to answer it as well. I like Nancy (Cats) & I usually read all of her posts b/c she shares good/interesting information. I didn't see any reason I couldn't answer the question she asked.


Because this is a Democrat thread...and you only came in here to stir trouble...I really don't think Cats was asking for your opinion!

#62   2009/02/18 08:22AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
alwaysEJ
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Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!



I answered her question. You are free to answer it as well. I like Nancy (Cats) & I usually read all of her posts b/c she shares good/interesting information. I didn't see any reason I couldn't answer the question she asked.


Because this is a Democrat thread...and you only came in here to stir trouble...I really don't think Cats was asking for your opinion!


Well I wasn't asking for yours...

Nancy, sorry - you said 'anyone,' & I know you weren't being sarcastic.

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#63   2009/02/18 08:27AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!



I answered her question. You are free to answer it as well. I like Nancy (Cats) & I usually read all of her posts b/c she shares good/interesting information. I didn't see any reason I couldn't answer the question she asked.


Because this is a Democrat thread...and you only came in here to stir trouble...I really don't think Cats was asking for your opinion!


Well I wasn't asking for yours...


And NO ONE was asking for yours!! BYE!!!

#64   2009/02/18 08:30AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
alwaysEJ
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Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote luvinthesoaps:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote cats meow: i have read in another thread, that the ONLY way to save the economy is to cut taxes, i am all for that, but what i do not understand is how that will help the unemployed, i am not being sarcastic at all, i don't understand the logic, anybody explain? thank you



Cats - not here to bash but I am going to explain how tax cuts work, IMO. I am sure some will disagree with me, but since you asked...

If you cut taxes, you put money in the pocket of people who pay taxes - this means business owners, who pay personal income taxes as well as taxes on their business - have more money to grow their business, hire people, and/or provide more & better benefits, like health insurance, to their employees.

Businesses provide jobs, whether it is a local small business or a huge corporation. When businesses are taxed excessively, they make up for those taxes by raising the price(s) of the goods or services they offer, by firing employees, by reducing benefits, etc. They are not going to take the hit - the public will in the form of increased prices and/or their employees will in the form of a lost job, reduced benefits, reduced salary, or all of these perhaps.

It's not just that there aren't enough tax cuts in the stimulus bill (again, IMO), it's that taxes cannot, or will not, be cut anytime in the future & will likely be raised b/c taxes will be needed to pay off the debt we are incurring by spending money we don't have. It is Bush's fault for spending too much - I think he spent way too much money, but I don't think the answer is to spend more.


I really don't think you get to come in here and spread your Republican misinformation...nice to know you read the thread though...you might actually learn something!



I answered her question. You are free to answer it as well. I like Nancy (Cats) & I usually read all of her posts b/c she shares good/interesting information. I didn't see any reason I couldn't answer the question she asked.


Because this is a Democrat thread...and you only came in here to stir trouble...I really don't think Cats was asking for your opinion!


Well I wasn't asking for yours...


And NO ONE was asking for yours!! BYE!!!



Actually, she said 'anyone.' That usually means 'anyone.' Rules are that anyone can post in any thread, even a no-bash thread, as long as they don't bash & I did not. I answered her question. No big deal.

#65   2009/02/18 08:31AM
Re: Democratic no bash part 2
luvinthesoaps
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Here's the link to Rachel Maddow's show and the interview:

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29247010

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