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#951   2009/06/26 08:07PM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
StL Cardinal...
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: Are we suprised? No one will do anything, They are all waiting for someone else to stand up!! and depending on if that person wins or loses is the backlash. This country's motto which was on the first great seal of our country E Pluribus Unum, from many, one, unfortuanatley has been abandoned and now it's where's mine!! IMO!! It's sad!!


I could care less how that freak of nature Michael Jackson died!! I am not saying that I did not like his music in the 70's & '80's, but he turned himself into freak and lost all respect that I may have had for him.

I do care that America and the United States Constitiution is dying by the hands of the current political administration. The fact that the Cap and Trade bill just passed the House is far more importand that Michael Jackson. I am sure Ovomit is happy for the Michael Jackson diversion so the MSM won't be giving the Cap and Trade bill much air time. It is a real shame that people know every aspect of Michael's life but they don't give a rat's a$$ about what is going on in our country!

#952   2009/06/27 06:46AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
StL Cardinal...
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Obama Warned Us: Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates to Skyrocket & Will Bankrupt the Coal Industry

//gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-warned-us-cap-trade-will-cause.html

#953   2009/06/27 07:23PM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
StL Cardinal...
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I have just spent the last 2 hours skimming over the Cap and Trade 310 page addition that was added to the original Cap and Trade bill during the night before it was to be voted on. I cannot believe how much this is going to cost Americans!! Just wait to see what your house is worth after a new apprasial system is put in place...if your don't have all energy saving appliances, furnace, AC, windows, toilets, faucets etc., your apprasial is going to suck.

I am sure that most of the House did not read most of this before they voted on it, along the the original 1200+ page Cap and Trade bill.

If anyone wants to become more infomed about this bill here is the link to 300+ page addition.

www.rules.house.gov/111/SpecialRules/hr2998/waxman1_hr2998_111.pdf


Top 10 Facts on Why Speaker Pelosi's National Energy Tax Is a Bad "Deal" for America


//republicanleader.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=133823


What You May Not Know About Speaker Pelosi's National Energy Tax

//republicanleader.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=134491

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#954   2009/06/28 06:03AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
Blue Lagoon
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Hello SS - AP and Beverly,hei I like Nabil I think he is funny too,Iam impress with his well spoken English ,i always admire with people who can speaks more than one language fluently,anyway I was debating with Ema our Dems. friend at yahoo last night.
I think Global warming is a Hoax and a Scam,I never really believe in that BS anyway,there are always 2 side in every story,they/liberal can believe what they believe but I and many others include our friends dont believe that for ONE CONSECUTIVE SECOND.
here is the link at least one of them over many that I can find that are disagree with Global Warming craps

www.carolinapoliticsonline.com/2009/03/30/global-warming-is-a-hoax-and-a-scam/
and here is another one AlGore the Climate Scam ! Al Gore..? thats a big joke imo

www.theclimatescam.com/tag/al-gore/page/2/

I can find many of similar article like it but its pointless,many believe and so many disbelieve,its your right to express your opinion,dont let anyone forced their opinion on you,well NOT for us anyway since we dont give a damn what they said ,I dont like Inconvinient Lies,thats my opinion and I stand by it.
and here is another one I just read

weather channel founder said = Global warming 'Greatest Scam in History'
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.
I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.

#955   2009/06/28 08:44AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
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Just a thought- I wonder how many people who hate and despise Rush Limbaugh have actually ever listened to him- when I run into people today who say that, I say to them, "I didn't know you listen to Rush"-most of the time the reply is, "Oh I don't listen to him I can't stand him, but so and so told me...."

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#956   2009/06/28 09:22AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
bigtimesoapfan
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Same goes for Bill O'Rielly too!! And his book the Culture warriors was awesome!!

#957   2009/06/29 07:01AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
NEFERTIRI
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Hi Blue L and gang ,I found this interesting article here for all of you who like firearms/ to defend yourself from wackos since obviously Gov. cant protect ,really how many times you heard people got killed and of course the help come after that but its too late.
I saw many incidents on TV about robberies who was fail to rob since the owner of the store using Gun to scare them.

this article about Montana

Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law-(DARES Obama To Challenge it!)
The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.
The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.
Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.
Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.
Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .
Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.
Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.
Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.
There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !
I think some other states will follow,Texas one of them.

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#958   2009/06/29 07:09AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
alwaysEJ
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The Supreme Court, 5-4, just overturned Sotomayor's decision regarding the white firefighters...I'll post more later when it's available.

#959   2009/06/29 07:25AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
NEFERTIRI
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Here is another one that I have been wonder and have question on my own - The Different of Republic and Democracy.
it said here Republic is Rule by Law and Democracy Rule by majority,since they have many article about this I just choose one of them.

Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.

A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).

Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the three banches of government, the Supreme Court and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob. A more recent example was the failure of the US Senate to uphold their oath "to do impartial justice" and remove bill clinton from office. Those Senators should be removed themselves, for failure to uphold their oath and for aiding and abetting a known criminal.
Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",

"We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)

"A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.

#960   2009/06/29 07:27AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
bigtimesoapfan
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Quote NEFERTIRI: Hi Blue L and gang ,I found this interesting article here for all of you who like firearms/ to defend yourself from wackos since obviously Gov. cant protect ,really how many times you heard people got killed and of course the help come after that but its too late.
I saw many incidents on TV about robberies who was fail to rob since the owner of the store using Gun to scare them.

this article about Montana

Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law-(DARES Obama To Challenge it!)
The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.
The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.
Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.
Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.
Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .
Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.
Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.
Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.
There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !
I think some other states will follow,Texas one of them.


Can I move to Montana? Do they have cnc machinist there? (Hubby needs a job)!! I don't like GUNS but I think we do have right to them(as our constitution states(right to bear arms). They need to realize that some of us just want to protect ourselves and our loved ones where as others want them to do harm for no reason!! Those of us who want them for the right reasons should not be penalized because of law breaking citizens!!! They should have background checks though. (IMO)!!

#961   2009/06/29 07:49AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
NEFERTIRI
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Quote bigtimesoapfan:
Quote NEFERTIRI: Hi Blue L and gang ,I found this interesting article here for all of you who like firearms/ to defend yourself from wackos since obviously Gov. cant protect ,really how many times you heard people got killed and of course the help come after that but its too late.
I saw many incidents on TV about robberies who was fail to rob since the owner of the store using Gun to scare them.

this article about Montana

Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law-(DARES Obama To Challenge it!)
The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.
The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.
Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.
Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.
Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .
Silencers made in Montana and sold in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.
Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.
Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.
There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !
I think some other states will follow,Texas one of them.


Can I move to Montana? Do they have cnc machinist there? (Hubby needs a job)!! I don't like GUNS but I think we do have right to them(as our constitution states(right to bear arms). They need to realize that some of us just want to protect ourselves and our loved ones where as others want them to do harm for no reason!! Those of us who want them for the right reasons should not be penalized because of law breaking citizens!!! They should have background checks though. (IMO)!!


Iam sure they have one,just try google -cnc machinist job in Montana and came up lots of information.
Just be sure that they will win over Federal new gun law first IMO if not probably will have an impact for the gun maker ? just a thought.
I agree with you about gun,IF ONLY we have a perfect society that not make us has to defend ourself,think about these criminals outthere who can buy guns even automatic/machine guns that are illegals,they can get it from the black market,I just dont want to be sitting 'duck'...LOL

#962   2009/06/29 10:55AM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
Melrose - Place
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Quote NEFERTIRI: Here is another one that I have been wonder and have question on my own - The Different of Republic and Democracy.
it said here Republic is Rule by Law and Democracy Rule by majority,since they have many article about this I just choose one of them.

Just after the completion and signing of the Constitution, in reply to a woman's inquiry as to the type of government the Founders had created, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN said, "A Republic, if you can keep it."
Not only have we failed to keep it, most don't even know what it is.

A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the public good).

Lawmaking is a slow, deliberate process in our Constitutional Republic requiring approval from the three banches of government, the Supreme Court and individual jurors (jury-nullification). Lawmaking in our unlawful democracy occurs rapidly requiring approval from the whim of the majority as determined by polls and/or voter referendums. A good example of democracy in action is a lynch mob. A more recent example was the failure of the US Senate to uphold their oath "to do impartial justice" and remove bill clinton from office. Those Senators should be removed themselves, for failure to uphold their oath and for aiding and abetting a known criminal.
Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.

Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a republic.

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",

"We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787)

"A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

Our military training manuals used to contain the correct definitions of Democracy and Republic. The following comes from Training Manual No. 2000-25 published by the War Department, November 30, 1928.


you think if we email our Reps. senator this thing will be change ? is it possible we follow the constitution as written to the beginning ? we should try,I believe many outthere sick and tired of manipulation either by Gov. or main stream liberal media
this one just in 'White firefighters win Supreme Court appeal'
The Supreme Court ruled Monday that white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., were unfairly denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision that high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor endorsed as an appeals court judge.

I was chatting with our friend Ivan from Russia,he said this kind of thing wont happen in Russia,majority rules not minority,he was talking about Race here,pure Russian white.
'what is going on there in ur country/USA ? he said' normaly in any country minority wont have that much power.
yes equal opportunity make America great,but look racism not only apply to minority but specially now to majority,thats very sad and pathetic he said,politically correct will kill your so call freedom of speech,how pity,its time to wake up and fight for your right silly !!
lol...I think I really like Ivan,he is not only brave,smart and I agree with many of his view.

#963   2009/06/29 02:41PM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
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So it took about a week for Obama to condemn the Iranian massacres that are still going on, we still have not really heard anything about this threat from N. Korea that no one really cares about anymore, and it only takes 1 DAY for Obama to speak out against this mess in Honduras???
We all knew he had no foreign policy experiences, and now it is really showing. And he has no idea what these people are going through, b/c he himself has never been at war or in the military. Is it too much to ask for just a little consistency? Can he at least pretend like he has always had a baseline opinion?

#964   2009/06/29 04:10PM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
alwaysEJ
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Quote lovesit: So it took about a week for Obama to condemn the Iranian massacres that are still going on, we still have not really heard anything about this threat from N. Korea that no one really cares about anymore, and it only takes 1 DAY for Obama to speak out against this mess in Honduras???
We all knew he had no foreign policy experiences, and now it is really showing. And he has no idea what these people are going through, b/c he himself has never been at war or in the military. Is it too much to ask for just a little consistency? Can he at least pretend like he has always had a baseline opinion?


I cannot believe how quick he was to pronounce the coup in Honduras illegal but it took him a week to condemn the killing of innocent protestors in the streets of Iran. The man who was thrown out in Honduras has been an ally of Chavez, & both Chavez & Castro have joined Obama in condemning the coup.

The main problem with Obama's condemnation of the coup is that Chavez has promised to act - so if he invades Honduras or does something else insane, what can we do? We've already said we agree with Chavez!

I guess it's hard to articulate a coherent foreign policy when your only firm belief is that somehow, it's all America's fault, a position Obama repeated all across Europe in recent 2009 Apology Tour.

A good start to foreign policy, when you're a novice like BO, is this - Whatever position Hugo Chavez takes on an issue, take the opposite position.

#965   2009/06/29 04:12PM
Re: Republican No Bash Thread
alwaysEJ
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Here's a good WSJ article on the Honduras mess:

online.wsj.com/article/SB124623220955866301.html

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