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Global Warming...Fact or Myth?

Started by OspreyGirl at 2009/10/26 11:27PM
Latest post: 2009/11/04 11:25AM, Views: 167, Replies: 16
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#1   2009/10/26 11:27PM
Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
OspreyGirl
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An analysis of global temperatures by independent statisticians shows the Earth is still warming and not cooling as some global warming skeptics are claiming.

The analysis was conducted at the request of The Associated Press to investigate the legitimacy of talk of a cooling trend that has been spreading on the Internet, fueled by some news reports, a new book and temperatures that have been cooler in a few recent years.

In short, it is not true, according to the statisticians who contributed to the AP analysis.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33482750/ns/us_news-environment/


So--why would the legitimacy of researchers and scientists be proven as false or a myth?

Below are some facts about global warming:


http://www.globalwarming.org.in/global-warming-facts.php

#2   2009/10/27 08:00AM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
gommie
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John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM

#3   2009/10/27 08:46AM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
BaileyBaby
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I believe that global warming as an "alarm system" is a myth perpetuated by the govt. & a bored media....

#4   2009/10/27 12:01PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
baileysmommy
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Here's an iteresting excerpt from the top headline of Democracy Now's 10/26 broadcast:

International Day of Climate Action Marked in 181 Nations
Activists across the globe rallied on Saturday to call on world leaders to take strong measures at the upcoming climate talks in Copenhagen. In an international day of action, people in 181 nations organized more than 5,200 events. The main organizing group 350.org called Saturday the most widespread day of political action in the planet’s history. The events centered on the number 350. Scientists say 350 parts per million is the safe upper limit for carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We are currently at 387 parts per million. Around the shore of the Dead Sea, Israeli activists made a giant 3, Palestinians a huge 5, and Jordanians a 0. In the Maldives, protesters took part in an underwater protest to raise awareness of how rising sea levels might affect the island nation. In Ethiopia, some 15,000 people gathered in a massive rally on Friday calling for a strong international climate change treaty. Gopal Dayaneni of the Movement Generation spoke on Saturday at a rally in San Francisco

Gopal Dayaneni: “The story of the solution to our problems begins with the communities on the ground, on the front lines of the root causes of this problem: the communities in Richmond who are fighting Chevron, the communities in Appalachia who are fighting coal, the communities in Alberta who are fighting tar sands, indigenous peoples all over this planet fighting to protect their forests and their livelihoods, fisherfolk all over this planet fighting industrial trolling. Those communities on the front lines of this struggle are the source of our solutions.”

Greenpeace field organizer Lauren Thorpe also spoke in San Francisco.

Lauren Thorpe: “We are going to have more hurricanes, more forest fires, and if we don’t do anything, the sea levels will actually rise. So this movement today is calling for those solutions to global warming that will prevent that from happening. And it’s a doable thing, but we have to act now, and we have to act fast. And we need the solutions that are at the actual scale of the problem, so we need strong, bold leadership from our president.”

Report: Rainforest Treaty “Fatally Flawed”
The Independent of London reports a vital safeguard to protect the world’s rainforests from being cut down has been dropped from a global deforestation treaty due to be signed at the climate summit in Copenhagen in December. Under proposals due to be ratified at the summit, countries which cut down rainforests and convert them to plantations of trees, such as oil palms, would still be able to classify the result as a forest and could receive millions of dollars meant for preserving them. Environmentalists say plantations are in no way a substitute for the lost natural forest in terms of wildlife, water production or, crucially, as a store of the carbon dioxide which is emitted into the atmosphere when forests are destroyed. The oil palm industry is a major driver of deforestation because palm oil is used to make biofuels.

#5   2009/10/27 01:57PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
lovesit
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I believe in global warming. And cooling. I just don't fall for the "humans are causing it" theory, especially since its frontman is an environmental opportunist who stands to make millions if certain bills pass. Earth has been going to the temp extremes since its existance, we have proof of that. But, that doesn't mean I think we aren't still hurting our planet. We should all do our part.

#6   2009/10/27 02:23PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
gommie
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Quote lovesit: I believe in global warming. And cooling. I just don't fall for the "humans are causing it" theory, especially since its frontman is an environmental opportunist who stands to make millions if certain bills pass. Earth has been going to the temp extremes since its existance, we have proof of that. But, that doesn't mean I think we aren't still hurting our planet. We should all do our part.




Exactly-- why is that so hard to 'get'

#7   2009/10/27 03:42PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
baileysmommy
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Quote gommie: John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM


Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on global warming, they all believe it is a REAL, and MAN MADE. A few organisations hold non-committal positions.

So I think I will follow the overwhelming opinions of the worlds scientists, then that of a meteorologist from the weather channel!

#8   2009/10/27 04:07PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
gommie
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Quote baileysmommy:
Quote gommie: John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM


Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on global warming, they all believe it is a REAL, and MAN MADE. A few organisations hold non-committal positions.

So I think I will follow the overwhelming opinions of the worlds scientists, then that of a meteorologist from the weather channel!




What you choose to believe is of no consequence to me- anymore than what I choose to believe should be to you....You look at my post and say I am so wrong- I, in turn look at your post and say you could not be more wrong in your beliefs--

#9   2009/10/27 04:15PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
bigtimesoapfan
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Quote gommie:
Quote baileysmommy:
Quote gommie: John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM


Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on global warming, they all believe it is a REAL, and MAN MADE. A few organisations hold non-committal positions.

So I think I will follow the overwhelming opinions of the worlds scientists, then that of a meteorologist from the weather channel!




What you choose to believe is of no consequence to me- anymore than what I choose to believe should be to you....You look at my post and say I am so wrong- I, in turn look at your post and say you could not be more wrong in your beliefs--


So lets agree tp be polite and dissagree, right Gommie.? The site finally works!1 Thank God I was having withdrawals all day!!
On this topic I honestly don't know I don't pay awhole lot of attn to it, I think we all have bigger things to worry about than this even the scientists say that what ever happens won't be in our lifetime(and hopefully not in my childrens either)!!When I hear Global warning(oops I mean warming) it sounds to me as Blah blah blah and I change the channel

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#10   2009/10/27 04:21PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
gommie
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Quote bigtimesoapfan:
Quote gommie:
Quote baileysmommy:
Quote gommie: John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM


Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on global warming, they all believe it is a REAL, and MAN MADE. A few organisations hold non-committal positions.

So I think I will follow the overwhelming opinions of the worlds scientists, then that of a meteorologist from the weather channel!




What you choose to believe is of no consequence to me- anymore than what I choose to believe should be to you....You look at my post and say I am so wrong- I, in turn look at your post and say you could not be more wrong in your beliefs--


So lets agree tp be polite and dissagree, right Gommie.? The site finally works!1 Thank God I was having withdrawals all day!!
On this topic I honestly don't know I don't pay awhole lot of attn to it, I think we all have bigger things to worry about than this even the scientists say that what ever happens won't be in our lifetime(and hopefully not in my childrens either)!!When I hear Global warning(oops I mean warming) it sounds to me as Blah blah blah and I change the channel




You would be right bigtimesoapfan-you might be interested in checking this out-

www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Cap-and-trade-Obamas-economic-dagger-41252867...

#11   2009/10/27 04:26PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
baileysmommy
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Quote gommie:
Quote baileysmommy:
Quote gommie: John Coleman, founder of the weather channel has this to say -IF people are interested in listening

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM


Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion on global warming, they all believe it is a REAL, and MAN MADE. A few organisations hold non-committal positions.

So I think I will follow the overwhelming opinions of the worlds scientists, then that of a meteorologist from the weather channel!




What you choose to believe is of no consequence to me- anymore than what I choose to believe should be to you....You look at my post and say I am so wrong- I, in turn look at your post and say you could not be more wrong in your beliefs--


It's also what the international scientific community chooses to believe........

#12   2009/11/02 03:50PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
OspreyGirl
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With so much evidence that the Earth is affected by global warming, I find it hard to believe that people still deny that it's true. Considering facts like the issue below, which is terribly sad:

The snows of Kilimanjaro may soon be gone. The African mountain's white peak — made famous by writer Ernest Hemingway — is rapidly melting, researchers report.

Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.

If current conditions continue "the ice fields atop Kilimanjaro will not endure," the researchers said.


news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091102/ap_on_sc/us_sci_snows_of_kilimanjaro


Look--I understand there are people thinking 'God' is causing all of these climate changes for the 'End Time' Revalations to occur--this is such a defeatist attitude, when we have the power to do something about this....seriously...think about this, hypothetically speaking, why would God want to have us live on a planet that has increased ozone coming through the atmosphere, smog in so many cities that people have deposits of it showing up in x-rays of their lungs, polar bears living on patches of ice and watching their food supply dwindle each season, etc?

It is our actions...MANKIND...that is causing all of these global environmental tragedies to occur. God is NOT making us kill the ozone nor is God doing anything to kill the planet...it is our greed and selfishness and ignorance.

Just my opinion...

#13   2009/11/02 04:38PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
Africa
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Quote OspreyGirl: With so much evidence that the Earth is affected by global warming, I find it hard to believe that people still deny that it's true. Considering facts like the issue below, which is terribly sad:

The snows of Kilimanjaro may soon be gone. The African mountain's white peak — made famous by writer Ernest Hemingway — is rapidly melting, researchers report.

Some 85 percent of the ice that made up the mountaintop glaciers in 1912 was gone by 2007, researchers led by paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

And more than a quarter of the ice present in 2000 was gone by 2007.

If current conditions continue "the ice fields atop Kilimanjaro will not endure," the researchers said.


news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091102/ap_on_sc/us_sci_snows_of_kilimanjaro


Look--I understand there are people thinking 'God' is causing all of these climate changes for the 'End Time' Revalations to occur--this is such a defeatist attitude, when we have the power to do something about this....seriously...think about this, hypothetically speaking, why would God want to have us live on a planet that has increased ozone coming through the atmosphere, smog in so many cities that people have deposits of it showing up in x-rays of their lungs, polar bears living on patches of ice and watching their food supply dwindle each season, etc?

It is our actions...MANKIND...that is causing all of these global environmental tragedies to occur. God is NOT making us kill the ozone nor is God doing anything to kill the planet...it is our greed and selfishness and ignorance.

Just my opinion...


Gurl, you just said a mouthful ~ right there!

#14   2009/11/02 06:25PM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
Sundevil98
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I think global warming is all hooey and that what we are experiencing is normal heating and cooling of the earth. However, I'm not a scientist, so my opinion is about as credible as Kermit the Frog's.... lol

#15   2009/11/03 05:19AM
Re: Global Warming...Fact or Myth?
val15
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All I know is we haven't felt much global warming here in the midwest. I personally doubt there is such a thing.

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