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Americans Denied Health Coverage

Started by cats meow at 2009/10/22 11:09AM
Latest post: 2009/10/24 06:26PM, Views: 229, Replies: 21
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#1   2009/10/22 11:09AM
Americans Denied Health Coverage
cats meow
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Embattled health insurance companies are taking a page from Goldlilocks. Last week, a 4-month-old child was denied insurance for being too heavy (the company has since changed its mind). Now the Web is buzzing about a toddler who was denied coverage for being too small.

On Wednesday morning, "The Today Show" covered the story of 2-year-old Aislin Bates. Though she weighs just 22 pounds (in the third percentile range for kids her age), her doctor has described her as being perfectly healthy, never having been sick with anything more than a cold. Still, United HealthCare didn't buy it, saying that the child didn't meet height and weight standards. So, no insurance for Aislin.

The story has inspired a slew of searches. After the segment aired on NBC, queries on young Aislin surged from zilch into triple digits. United HealthCare is wisely responding to what could be a PR crisis. In an article from Denver's ABC affiliate, a company spokesperson for United HealthCare said the company's height and weight requirements "are based on several medical sources, including the Centers for Disease Control, and are well within industry standards."

Still, Aislin's case, as well as the previous incident of the obese 4-month-old, have highlighted the difficulties some parents face when trying to get coverage for their children. Aislin's father Rob was quoted as saying that even though he doesn't support universal health care, this battle over insuring his daughter has made him want insurance companies to have more "legitimate reasons for denying coverage."

NBC medical expert Dr. Nancy Snyderman, who appeared with the Bates family, was more pointed in her criticism: “This is just so bogus. A pre-existing condition for a child this age is birth, let’s be real..... This is why things have to change."

can you believe this? the ins companies have way too much power

#2   2009/10/22 11:10AM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
cats meow
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Check out our top five list of recent insurance company abuses:

1. Rape as a pre-existing condition: Women in America have a choice. If they've been raped, they can either go to the emergency room, get the care they need and seek counseling in order to begin the healing process... or they can keep their health insurance.
2. Get sterilized: This is what an insurance company, Golden Rule, told Peggy Robertson, mother of two, after she had a C-section birth. Just keep in mind the fact that over 30% of births in America are performed via C-section.
3. Baby is "too fat": Newborn babies have been denied coverage for being born too large. Today, over 67% of Americans are either overweight or obese. Isn't it nice to see the insurance industry joining the fight to curb obesity at... birth?
4. Baby is "too small": Well you don't want the small babies to feel left out, do you? Even perfectly healthy children, like 2 year-old Aislin Bates, can be denied coverage because an insurer thinks they're "too small."
5. And for everyone else: Just because you're not a woman or baby doesn't mean that the insurance industry has forgotten about you. There are plenty of reasons why you too can be denied care!

wow, i had no idea

#3   2009/10/22 11:12AM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
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A woman who was sexually assaulted took the anti-AIDS drugs her doctor prescribed as a precaution, only to learn that she had made herself virtually uninsurable. This is one of the stories emerging from the Investigative Fund's citizen journalism project on the health insurance industry.

we need to come together as women to put a stop to this[/b

#4   2009/10/22 03:20PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
cats meow
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bring this up

#5   2009/10/22 05:36PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
wannazach
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There is the woman named Jenny U., whose insurance company cut off her coverage because they decided her kidney donation to her sick daughter counted as a "pre-existing condition." What really matters to insurance companies is saving the $$$ for their own pocketbooks. Private insurance companies have been flooding the mail with flyers and letters to everyone they can. These letters are telling people lies about the healthcare reform. The very envelopes that these letters come in have lies written all over the outside of them. The insurance companies are spending a fortune to keep this reform from passing. That is enough to show that they have a vested interest ($$$$$$) in keeping this from passing. Think of how many Americans could receive healthcare with the monies that private insurance companies are spending on tv adds and mailings to keep the big bucks come to them ALL them.

#6   2009/10/23 05:44AM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
cats meow
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i am disappointed more posters didn't respond to this thread, i would love to know how anyone could think this is ok, i cannot think of any justification for this, none

#7   2009/10/23 10:05AM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
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My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.

#8   2009/10/23 01:02PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
cats meow
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Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.


that is so sad and should not happen in this country ever!!
i am sorry for that terrible loss to you and your family, especially when it could have been prevented if he had affordable health insurance
i am still waiting for someone on the right to explain this away

#9   2009/10/23 01:34PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
lovesit
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Quote cats meow:
Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.


that is so sad and should not happen in this country ever!!
i am sorry for that terrible loss to you and your family, especially when it could have been prevented if he had affordable health insurance
i am still waiting for someone on the right to explain this away


Thats a little uncalled for, don't ya think?? Why do you think those of us on the right would explain this away?

There is a lot I could repeat from past posts on healthcare, but I have nothing new to bring here, other than please do not assume that b/c the majority of the right does not want GOV SPONSORED healthcare, we don't want healthcare reform.
A family member of mine has inflamed nerve endings in her brain, and ironically Botox was the only thing that temporarily helped her (she spontaneously passes out as well) and insurance will not recognize she is not getting it for cosmetic purposes, she just prefers to function properly! Lots of change needs to happen.

#10   2009/10/23 01:41PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
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Quote lovesit:
Quote cats meow:
Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.


that is so sad and should not happen in this country ever!!
i am sorry for that terrible loss to you and your family, especially when it could have been prevented if he had affordable health insurance
i am still waiting for someone on the right to explain this away


Thats a little uncalled for, don't ya think?? Why do you think those of us on the right would explain this away?



There is a lot I could repeat from past posts on healthcare, but I have nothing new to bring here, other than please do not assume that b/c the majority of the right does not want GOV SPONSORED healthcare, we don't want healthcare reform.
A family member of mine has inflamed nerve endings in her brain, and ironically Botox was the only thing that temporarily helped her (she spontaneously passes out as well) and insurance will not recognize she is not getting it for cosmetic purposes, she just prefers to function properly! Lots of change needs to happen.


well i totally agree with you, and i believe your loved one is entitled to receive the care that will help her, period, we need to make sure every american gets the health care they deserve, and we have to stop lining the pockets of these insurance companies, a vote against the public option is a vote for big business plain and simple

#11   2009/10/23 01:51PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
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Plain and simple? Are we following the same bill? Plain and simple would be awesome...I respectfully disagree, about it being plain and simple and about it being a vote for big business, especially if I still stand for tort reform and gov regulation changes on insurances. Either way, we'll see soon. Hopefully, maybe, maybe not

#12   2009/10/23 01:59PM
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Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.



WOW same exact thing happened to friends of ours- the husband was diagnosed with inoperable brain tumor- also shot and killed himself- however for different reasons, he was a retired police officer- with a great retirement and great insurance- he chose the path he did to save his family from the heartache and suffering of watching him die---

#13   2009/10/23 02:04PM
Re: Americans Denied Health Coverage
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Quote lovesit:
Quote cats meow:
Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.


that is so sad and should not happen in this country ever!!
i am sorry for that terrible loss to you and your family, especially when it could have been prevented if he had affordable health insurance
i am still waiting for someone on the right to explain this away


Thats a little uncalled for, don't ya think?? Why do you think those of us on the right would explain this away?

There is a lot I could repeat from past posts on healthcare, but I have nothing new to bring here, other than please do not assume that b/c the majority of the right does not want GOV SPONSORED healthcare, we don't want healthcare reform.
A family member of mine has inflamed nerve endings in her brain, and ironically Botox was the only thing that temporarily helped her (she spontaneously passes out as well) and insurance will not recognize she is not getting it for cosmetic purposes, she just prefers to function properly! Lots of change needs to happen.




Exactly lovesit--- we have been over this time and again- it does not seem to sink in- I think every American knows we need health care reform-- just not government sponsored- there has to be a better way- hopefully we will find it-- I think we have all had our run ins with insurance company over health issues-- but letting the government 'step in' to ha ha take care of us-- no thanks....they are doing quite enough already--
How frustrated your family member must be--

#14   2009/10/23 02:06PM
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Quote lovesit:
Quote cats meow:
Quote 2577Echo: My son was a normal 7-lb. 10-oz. baby, but was always five to six pounds under normal weight until he was 20; however, his weight gain followed the normal curve. He was perfectly healthy, and there was never a problem with the insurance. This was exactly the way his father was.

On a more sombre note, a family member who was the owner/operator of a third-generation small family business could not afford the outrageous health insurance premiums for a sole proprietorship. When he discovered he had brain cancer, he shot himself while his wife was out of town, because he was afraid there would be nothing left for his family after medical expenses.


that is so sad and should not happen in this country ever!!
i am sorry for that terrible loss to you and your family, especially when it could have been prevented if he had affordable health insurance
i am still waiting for someone on the right to explain this away


Thats a little uncalled for, don't ya think?? Why do you think those of us on the right would explain this away?

There is a lot I could repeat from past posts on healthcare, but I have nothing new to bring here, other than please do not assume that b/c the majority of the right does not want GOV SPONSORED healthcare, we don't want healthcare reform.
A family member of mine has inflamed nerve endings in her brain, and ironically Botox was the only thing that temporarily helped her (she spontaneously passes out as well) and insurance will not recognize she is not getting it for cosmetic purposes, she just prefers to function properly! Lots of change needs to happen.


Cats respectfully I gotta agree with Lovesit....why would you assume that the people on the right think that others dying or are being denied healthcare is ok with us? This seems to be a Huge misconception.

There is a better way to reform healthcare like allowing people to "shop" in other states for coverage, that will cause Insurance companies to lower their rates to stay competetive. Just one way to reform healthcare...I'm sure there are other ways, and that needs to be looked into. Put all options on the table and have the citizens of this country vote on it. Who knows maybe most people want Universal healthcare, maybe they don't....it should be put to a vote by the citizens of our great country instead of having politicians that are exempt to universal healthcare to make that decision for the masses.

#15   2009/10/23 02:34PM
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You think that we have horror stories with insurance now, wait until the government takes hold of it and starts telling everyone what they can and cannot do....... They need to get a better plan than what they are trying to shove down our throats right now, or you just think you now have trouble..you ain't seen nothing yet. Insurance companies have been pulling this sort of crap for years and years!!

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