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First of all, there is no way Obama did not know what is going on with ACORN....the White House knows about everything that is said in the news. And if he truely does not know about it, how scary is that? The President should be informed about what is going on in his own country.

This was just an attempt at downplay because the President has been closley associated with ACORN in the past. Now that they are under a microscope, they are radioactive to him. He wants nothing to do with them. Politics as usual...no change here.

BTW, just reading through the other posts, there are somethings that need to be cleared up:

ACORN may have not received 8.5 Billion yet, but thats what they were going to receive before this scandle broke. That money was to come from the Obama stimulus package. (Obama had no qualms about giving money to them before this scandle broke because ACORN helped him get elected...tit for tat? Again no change here...politics as usual)

And while there have not been 30 convictions for voter fraud, the number of convictions plus those under indictment equals 30. These cases are in multiple states.

[quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.

[quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-

[quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-[/quote]

The link I provided was a VIDEO interview with Bertha Lewis...glad you took the time to READ it though!!!!!!!

[quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-[/quote]

The link I provided was a VIDEO interview with Bertha Lewis...glad you took the time to READ it though!!!!!!![/quote]


Yes, the Video-Mr. Gonzalez didn't tell me anything that I hadn't heard already-the transcript was just more of the same as well--as for Bertha Lewis I had already heard her 'take' on the corruption as well- she didn't say anything I hadn't already heard--

[quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-[/quote]

The link I provided was a VIDEO interview with Bertha Lewis...glad you took the time to READ it though!!!!!!![/quote]


Yes, the Video-Mr. Gonzalez didn't tell me anything that I hadn't heard already-the transcript was just more of the same as well--as for Bertha Lewis I had already heard her 'take' on the corruption as well- she didn't say anything I hadn't already heard--[/quote]

There was two journalists in the interview...the second one joins about 3 minutes into the 41 minute segment...thanks again for watching/reading!!

[quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-[/quote]

The link I provided was a VIDEO interview with Bertha Lewis...glad you took the time to READ it though!!!!!!![/quote]


Yes, the Video-Mr. Gonzalez didn't tell me anything that I hadn't heard already-the transcript was just more of the same as well--as for Bertha Lewis I had already heard her 'take' on the corruption as well- she didn't say anything I hadn't already heard--[/quote]

There was two journalists in the interview...the second one joins about 3 minutes into the 41 minute segment...thanks again for watching/reading!![/quote]



Like I said I've heard it all before-- if you are talking about mike johanns-I saw and heard him too-still nothing I had not heard over and over before---------

[quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: [quote]Quote baileysmommy: [quote]Quote gommie: Baileysmommy:The point is being missed because you have everyone of your "facts" about ACORN WRONG!
You said...8 billion in Federal funds...wrong!
30 covictions for voter fraud...wrong!
Every single false voter registration done by an ACORN employye was flagged by ACORN and turned in by ACORN and the employee fired!
The leader embezzeled one million and was only replaced this year...wrong!
The current head of ACORN is a woman who has had the position for the past two years!
The President was a community activist for ACORN...wrong!!!
Stop watching Glenn Beck...you might actually find the truth!


gommie:

The facts are as I presented them- AND if you have any interest at all in the truth, you will find it here-

www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=333241444242458&kw=acorn,convictions[/q... />

I certainly am interested in truth and facts, not right wing editorials(an editorial is an opinion)...here's my link:

www.democracynow.org/2009/9/17/acorn_head_bertha_lewis_vows_action[/quote]



I guess we each have our own reading material-I'll stick to mine- one day, the things that are going on in our country will become quite clear to everyone-I hope I am on the side that loses-it will be quite interesting to revisit all the political issues that have been posted here over the past year-
Again,I think the whole point of this thread is being ignored-

"During his question and answer period with George Stephanopoulos, Mr. President replied when asked about ACORN. "Frankly, it's not really something I've followed closely,"I didn't even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money." Mr. President looked uninformed, unaware, and ignorant of what has been going on."[/quote]

I find it both funny and telling that even though I knew that I would not agree with the opinion in the link you provided...I still read it. Your unwillingness to even investiagte another viewpoint makes me wonder....
As for revisted the viewpoints expressed here in the past year...is this meant to imply that the end of the world as we know it is approaching? Or are you suggesting that somehow you are more informed then some of us?
If that's the case, I find your unwillingness to investigate different sources perplexing for someone who is so well informed.[/quote]



I find it equally as funny and telling that you -ASSUME that I did not go read the link you provided-I did go to the link you provided and I did read it-how else could I have determined that I would stick to my own reading material? If you are happy with ACORN and their theft- then I say good for you I guess-


Still, the point of this thread is being ignored-[/quote]

The link I provided was a VIDEO interview with Bertha Lewis...glad you took the time to READ it though!!!!!!![/quote]


Yes, the Video-Mr. Gonzalez didn't tell me anything that I hadn't heard already-the transcript was just more of the same as well--as for Bertha Lewis I had already heard her 'take' on the corruption as well- she didn't say anything I hadn't already heard--[/quote]

There was two journalists in the interview...the second one joins about 3 minutes into the 41 minute segment...thanks again for watching/reading!![/quote]



Like I said I've heard it all before-- if you are talking about mike johanns-I saw and heard him too-still nothing I had not heard over and over before---------[/quote]

No, Amy Goodman, the Co-Anchor of the program, but thanks for watching the 41 minute interview.
And of course the point of the video link was to dispute the things you had stated in your first post as fact...which the interview provides for...

baileysmom--

Are you the one bad posting your posts so I can't reply? oh nevermind- no big deal-----


gommie said:
Like I said I've heard it all before-- if you are talking about mike johanns-I saw and heard him too-still nothing I had not heard over and over before---------[/quote]


Baileysmommy said--------------

No, Amy Goodman, the Co-Anchor of the program, but thanks for watching the 41 minute interview.
And of course the point of the video link was to dispute the things you had stated in your first post as fact...which the interview provides for...


gommie replied:
If I remember correctly the program started with Amy Goodman- so how is it possible to have missed her??
Nothing I said was disputed by the video-------------

Gasp! Have I been bad posted???
The truth is sometimes painfull...

[quote]Quote gommie: baileysmom--

Are you the one bad posting your posts so I can't reply? oh nevermind- no big deal-----


gommie said:
Like I said I've heard it all before-- if you are talking about mike johanns-I saw and heard him too-still nothing I had not heard over and over before---------[/quote]


Baileysmommy said--------------

No, Amy Goodman, the Co-Anchor of the program, but thanks for watching the 41 minute interview.
And of course the point of the video link was to dispute the things you had stated in your first post as fact...which the interview provides for...


gommie replied:
If I remember correctly the program started with Amy Goodman- so how is it possible to have missed her??
Nothing I said was disputed by the video-------------[/quote]

8 billlion in federal funds
30 convictions for voter fraud
the leader embezzled millions and was only replaced this year.
Obama was an organizer for ACORN.
Do you remember posting any of those things as fact?
Those are all shown to not be the entire truth

I wonder how disagreeing with someone and posting an alternative opinion can be considered a bad post? Did I "bash" anyone? Call names? No...just staed my own opinion, and provided a news program interview with the head of ACORN to substaniate my viewpoint and opinion. How is that against guidelines? How does that make for a bad post? Hmmmmm.............

baileysmommy:

8 billlion in federal funds allotted from the stimulus package to come
30 convictions for voter fraud
the leader embezzled millions(oh and this should read 1 million-not millions) and was only replaced this year.
Obama was THE LEAD ORGANIZER for ACORN.
Do you remember posting any of those things as fact?
Those are all shown to not be the entire truth

gommie:

Absolutely I do and I stand behind them- it's obvious to me that the issue that was the reason for this thread will not be addressed- so you get the last word, if you want it-

I believe obama is lying about having 'no knowledge' of ACORN'S latest corruption(too busy with other things to be paying attention)and if he is not lying, well that is pretty darn scary too-Americans all better be paying attention to that as well----