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Soaps Boards :: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
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Quote calliope: I am so tired of partisan crap! It's like if you are Republican you have to dislike everything about the bill, if you are Democrat, Obama is God and the bill is perfect. It is far from perfect....why don't the dissenters sit down and put all the ideas together? If Joe Wilson thinks he's lying, show us why and how he is lying! I just don't get why grown, educated people cannot get together, regardless of party, to come up with a solution for the good of the American people. They all drive me nuts! I s-o-o agree. I'm seriously beginning to believe like many that the President has given an adult task to children. President Clinton presented a health care reform bill to Congress that Congress disagreed with. Now, some 15 years later, President Obama is giving Congress the opportunity to write their own health care bill but is trying to establish some kind of deadline. I realize and respect the fact that these are two different presidential administrations and two different Congresses but this present Congress needs to wake up at do as Nike says and — JUST DO IT. As you said, they are grown and responsible adults and elected leaders. All this whining and complaining and asking to "show me" is childish. Either Congress does what the President has challenged them with or they dont't. But if they don't — the blame is clearly on them and it's becoming more and more clear that all this hoopla that runs the gamut from whining and complaining to being downright disrespectful is only another distraction to what is really going on. I trust that the President will be true to his word and continue calling them out. |
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Quote ILuvNY: My students (seniors) were totally put off by what Mr. Wilson did to President Obama. Even the most conservative of students said that it was rude and disrespectful....out of the mouths of babes... He is a terrible example, and totally took the light off of the republican response to the President's message. The kids said that all the blogs and twitters they were on were talking about the incident. They have enough decorum to say, "I can't repeat what they called that man." Other presidents have been "booed" but it seems that none has ever been disrespected and denigrated to this extent; none has ever been told that "he lied". No matter what your political affiliation or belief, we should all be appalled and disgusted by this rudeness! I just heard on a newscast that his opponent received $400,000.00 since he made that remark last night. ***reminder~please fly your flag tomorrow in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9/ll/01.**** Thanks for that input - - I love hearing what the kids (our future) have to say about these ridiculous things going on in a country that needs to concentrate on worst situations. Also heard that Wilson's son, who is an attorney is running for state attorney general - -oh boy, South Carolina must be so proud, poor people, all this along with their governor Sanford's actions! |
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I can't figure out what makes Wilson so special to justify any punishment. He was definately not the first to create an outburst at a presidential debate, and he will not be the last. |
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Quote lovesit: I can't figure out what makes Wilson so special to justify any punishment. He was definately not the first to create an outburst at a presidential debate, and he will not be the last. Longhornsfan and myslf have given examples of previous outbursts, and I also can't see how that is baiting? Besides, to me, a vocal outburst is no more disrupting than applause and standing literally every minute. I know BO is not the first to enable these constant standing ovations, but how is one supposed to listen when all we hear is clapping? You don't see the difference between the negativism of calling the President a liar and the positive nature of applause????? |
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Quote lovesit: I can't figure out what makes Wilson so special to justify any punishment. He was definately not the first to create an outburst at a presidential debate, and he will not be the last. Longhornsfan and myslf have given examples of previous outbursts, and I also can't see how that is baiting? Besides, to me, a vocal outburst is no more disrupting than applause and standing literally every minute. I know BO is not the first to enable these constant standing ovations, but how is one supposed to listen when all we hear is clapping? It wasn't a debate..it was a Presidential Address to a joint session of Congress. |
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Quote lovesit: I can't figure out what makes Wilson so special to justify any punishment. He was definately not the first to create an outburst at a presidential debate, and he will not be the last. This was not a Presidential Debate. It was a formal speech in the Congressional Chambers of the United States of America attended by elected representatives of the citizens of the United States of America. Was this man representative of all the people he swore to serve? I don't think so! Shame on him!
Longhornsfan and myslf have given examples of previous outbursts, and I also can't see how that is baiting? Besides, to me, a vocal outburst is no more disrupting than applause and standing literally every minute. I know BO is not the first to enable these constant standing ovations, but how is one supposed to listen when all we hear is clapping? |
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Quote lovesit: I can't figure out what makes Wilson so special to justify any punishment. He was definately not the first to create an outburst at a presidential debate, and he will not be the last. Longhornsfan and myslf have given examples of previous outbursts, and I also can't see how that is baiting? Besides, to me, a vocal outburst is no more disrupting than applause and standing literally every minute. I know BO is not the first to enable these constant standing ovations, but how is one supposed to listen when all we hear is clapping? Lovesit this was not a debate by a long shot. At a debate neither party is already the "Commander and Cheif" of our country. They are just running for the office. It IS the first time in history that any member of Congress shouted liar to the President of the US. That is not to mention at a "State of the Union Address" AND on the floor of the house. Imo it was childish, disrespectful, disgraceful and totally uncalled for. |
lovesit![]() |
Ha, I was cooking and realized I said debate, went back here hoping I could edit...you all are fast tonight. |
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Quote lovesit: Ha, I was cooking and realized I said debate, went back here hoping I could edit...you all are fast tonight. Anywho, I didn't mean debate. Obviously I was talking about speeches, debates, SOTUs, yada yada. My point: to me, "liar" is just as disruptive as applause every minute, the intentions don't make it any easier to listen. And the other point was that no, I obviously don't agree with disruptions of any kind, especially childish ones. BUT...Yelling "Boo" over and over (Dems to Bush in 2005 SOTU) IS the same as yelling "liar." You can't convince me this was some unprecedented event by Wilson. How can we all of a sudden make people accountable for their actions? Since the media caved in to money, there is no one anymore to hold these people up and say "Looky here what this one did" They (our reps) obviously (mostly) don't care how we think of them b.c there is no incentive to act right, or NONE of these people would be doing this. Well now wait a minute. You said in an above post - - - "Longhornsfan and myslf have given examples of previous outbursts, and I also can't see how that is baiting?" I don't know about anybody else, but I personally watched the video with Obama in a HUGE crowd of Democrats, "applauding" - - unless I need to have my ears checked - - I did not hear anybody in that video that you all recommended we should watch - - I heard NO booing. The point above in some posts was to say - - why should Obama be upset (which he was not - - handled it like the pro he is) when he himself was involved in the same thing. HE WAS NOT. Example Post #27 on this thread. Say what you want, but nobody ever called another president a liar as Wilson did. Color it any color, dress it in any clothes, say what you want - - OBAMA himself, never was involved in this type of childishness, as some of the posters above were trying to convince us he did. |
wannazach![]() |
Miller’s opponent takes since the "you lie" moment is more than $400,000 from 11,000 contributors as of 5:00 pm. That means he's raised two-thirds of his total take from the 2008 congressional cycle in less than 24 hours. |
lovesit![]() |
puddy, my example was different than longhorn's. Mine was from 2005, and I did not give a link. I don't have a video of it, anyways, just archived articles and some audio I heard. |
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Quote wannazach: Miller’s opponent takes since the "you lie" moment is more than $400,000 from 11,000 contributors as of 5:00 pm. That means he's raised two-thirds of his total take from the 2008 congressional cycle in less than 24 hours. Wanna - - if you need extra money to help in this economy - - apply to a Stand-Up Comedy Club - - they would hire you in a minute! |
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Quote lovesit: Ha, I was cooking and realized I said debate, went back here hoping I could edit...you all are fast tonight. Anywho, I didn't mean debate. Obviously I was talking about speeches, debates, SOTUs, yada yada. My point: to me, "liar" is just as disruptive as applause every minute, the intentions don't make it any easier to listen. And the other point was that no, I obviously don't agree with disruptions of any kind, especially childish ones. BUT...Yelling "Boo" over and over (Dems to Bush in 2005 SOTU) IS the same as yelling "liar." You can't convince me this was some unprecedented event by Wilson. How can we all of a sudden make people accountable for their actions? Since the media caved in to money, there is no one anymore to hold these people up and say "Looky here what this one did" They (our reps) obviously (mostly) don't care how we think of them b.c there is no incentive to act right, or NONE of these people would be doing this. Boo is not the same as calling your newly elected president a liar..... a liar insinuates that someone is not is not telling the truth...boo means you strongly disagree with something said or done......in other words...I say boooo to your post......but if I were to say...Lovesit you are a liar...that is saying you are not telling the truth....you see the difference now? how did you take it when I said boo to your post...how did you take it when I said lovesit is a liar???? |
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Quote raving: Quote lovesit: Ha, I was cooking and realized I said debate, went back here hoping I could edit...you all are fast tonight. Anywho, I didn't mean debate. Obviously I was talking about speeches, debates, SOTUs, yada yada. My point: to me, "liar" is just as disruptive as applause every minute, the intentions don't make it any easier to listen. And the other point was that no, I obviously don't agree with disruptions of any kind, especially childish ones. BUT...Yelling "Boo" over and over (Dems to Bush in 2005 SOTU) IS the same as yelling "liar." You can't convince me this was some unprecedented event by Wilson. How can we all of a sudden make people accountable for their actions? Since the media caved in to money, there is no one anymore to hold these people up and say "Looky here what this one did" They (our reps) obviously (mostly) don't care how we think of them b.c there is no incentive to act right, or NONE of these people would be doing this. Boo is not the same as calling your newly elected president a liar..... a liar insinuates that someone is not is not telling the truth...boo means you strongly disagree with something said or done......in other words...I say boooo to your post......but if I were to say...Lovesit you are a liar...that is saying you are not telling the truth....you see the difference now? how did you take it when I said boo to your post...how did you take it when I said lovesit is a liar???? I'm not sure how to respond. First, please clarify if you are really calling me a liar or booing at my post, then I'll go from there. But I don't need clarification to say this: to me, booing is no worse or better than yeling liar. Both are disrupting, and its hard enough to follow as it is with all the clapping. |
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Another thing, if we're giving/taking points on who was less bad or more bad, than Wilson is better than the Dems in 2005. Atleast Wilson didn't do that at a SOTU. But to me, this is ridiculous thought. Both are counterproductive and make their parties look stupid and desperate. |
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