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Started by puddycat at 2009/09/09 07:01PM
Latest post: 2009/09/11 07:12AM, Views: 1973, Replies: 161
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#1   2009/09/09 07:01PM
Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
puddycat
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Regardless of what party and how you feel about the President's speech tonight, for a Congressman to yell out "You Lie" to the President of the United States is inexcusable.

He was not in agreement to the President explaining that illegal aliens would not receive health care

According to the Huffington Post, "That person's Republican Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina. I personally thought his outburst, which caused Democrats on the other side of the congressional aisle to boo, was very disrespectful and marks a period of less than classy discourse and behavior."

Even on CNN's Larry King, Senator John McCain said Wilson's outburst was totally disrespectful and that Rep. Wilson should apologize immediately.

Just expressing my feelings regarding this outburst, as we are free to do on this board.

Have at me - - I just thought it was so immature on the part of a grown man. If he has children, hope they were not watching.

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#2   2009/09/09 08:14PM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
OspreyGirl
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He represents the best of the worst of America.

No matter how much Dems reviled Pres. Bush, I can't recall not one of them in the 8 years he served as president, yell out during his speech and say something like that.

If I'm wrong, then show me proof...otherwise, Wilson and every j@ck@ss like him can go straight to hell.

#3   2009/09/09 08:32PM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
KC11
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It's just one more entry to document in the history books.

The more President Barack Obama endures the more many will admire him for later. He is the most calm and collected President that I've seen in my 50+ years.

This is what many admire about him yet it's what others dislike about him. His composure is simply uncanny.

The drawings, the outburst, the shock value... all bounces off of President Obama like ping pong balls.

#4   2009/09/09 09:14PM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
rei1
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I agree it wasn't the time to disagree, but then again maybe it was....it certainly got the attention of everyone and maybe he had a point?

Maybe Obama did lie..I don't know, but ..he also said that those that have their current heathcare plan....nothing would change.( yeah right) That is not the truth ... he also said he will make people buy insurance like we have to for car insurance and it will be mandatory. ( not what he said in his campaign...Hillary said that and he adamently disagreed) SO his proposal that if you find yourself unemployed will have access to insurance, well you better have some $$ because if you don't have insurance you will be violating the LAW!

hmmmm..

I really tried to see the big picture, I did, But there are still many loopholes in his plan....like just how is he going to fund his plan? Get rid of Gov. ...lol not likely!

He had me at hello and then lost me when he said that everyone in this country is required to purchase health insurance...except for those who can't afford it of course...then obviously the ones purchasing will be paying double for their coverage....which I am keenly aware that's what we are presently doing..

So my big question is ..... what BIG change is he proposing?

edited for a few typos

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#5   2009/09/09 09:33PM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
Eppy
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Quote rei1: I agree it wasn't the time to disagree, but then again maybe it was....it certainly got the attention of everyone and maybe he had a point?

Maybe Obama did lie..I don't know, but ..he also said that those that have their current heathcare plan....nothing would change.( yeah right) That is not the truth ... he also said he will make people buy insurance like we have to for car insurance and it will be mandatory. ( not what he said in his campaign...Hillary said that and he adamently disagreed) SO his proposal that if you find yourself unemployed will have access to insurance, well you better have some $$ because if you don't have insurance you will be violating the LAW!

hmmmm..

I really tried to see the big picture, I did, But there are still many loopholes in his plan....like just how is he going to fund his plan? Get rid of Gov. ...lol not likely!

He had me at hello and then lost me when he said that everyone in this country is required to purchase health insurance...except for those who can't afford it of course...then obviously the ones purchasing will be paying double for their coverage....which I am keenly aware that's what we are presently doing..

So my big question is ..... what BIG change is he proposing?

edited for a few typos
So many people are concerned - even those of us who are now on Medicare. I am paying an enormous amount of deductible and share of cost on some very expensive and numerous medical bills. My problem - with having to pay a large (combined) bill every month, I cannot afford to take that same amount and purchase supplemental insurance. Once one gets in a hole, there's no getting out. Supplemental insurance would have paid those soc's. So, even with insurance possibilities for all, soc's and deductibles will still probably be a problem, but thank God, at least they won't be obligated for the total bill - and cannot be refused. Joe Wilson needs to get a clue before he shoots off his mouth and makes a fool of himself.

#6   2009/09/09 10:05PM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
rei1
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Quote Eppy:
Quote rei1: I agree it wasn't the time to disagree, but then again maybe it was....it certainly got the attention of everyone and maybe he had a point?

Maybe Obama did lie..I don't know, but ..he also said that those that have their current heathcare plan....nothing would change.( yeah right) That is not the truth ... he also said he will make people buy insurance like we have to for car insurance and it will be mandatory. ( not what he said in his campaign...Hillary said that and he adamently disagreed) SO his proposal that if you find yourself unemployed will have access to insurance, well you better have some $$ because if you don't have insurance you will be violating the LAW!

hmmmm..

I really tried to see the big picture, I did, But there are still many loopholes in his plan....like just how is he going to fund his plan? Get rid of Gov. ...lol not likely!

He had me at hello and then lost me when he said that everyone in this country is required to purchase health insurance...except for those who can't afford it of course...then obviously the ones purchasing will be paying double for their coverage....which I am keenly aware that's what we are presently doing..

So my big question is ..... what BIG change is he proposing?

edited for a few typos




So many people are concerned - even those of us who are now on Medicare. I am paying an enormous amount of deductible and share of cost on some very expensive and numerous medical bills. My problem - with having to pay a large (combined) bill every month, I cannot afford to take that same amount and purchase supplemental insurance. Once one gets in a hole, there's no getting out. Supplemental insurance would have paid those soc's. So, even with insurance possibilities for all, soc's and deductibles will still probably be a problem, but thank God, at least they won't be obligated for the total bill - and cannot be refused. Joe Wilson needs to get a clue before he shoots off his mouth and makes a fool of himself.





Eppy ...really if I were you I wouldn't worry as much. Medicare Better improve under Obama's plan.

(or you may have voted for the wrong guy)

It's the (no offence) younger generation that will be taking care of Medicare patients ..just like it has been for a long time.

I do hope that Medicare treats you better....

#7   2009/09/10 05:02AM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
Plot-Twister
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Joe Wilson...Joke. But, he apologized, and what is done is done. He will go down in history as "Johnny pulled a Joe Wilson today".

REI - There is no bill. This is a discussion period. The president has tasked congress with coming up with a plan that includes the things he wants in it. He has ideas. He has thoughts. He laid that all out last night. He also said that he is willing to listen to any and all ideas from any party, any person that would accomplish those goals without going with a public option.

With that said, I am interested in what congress will come up with. I understand that he wants people to be able to keep their current insurance if they choose, but if there is private option and everyone is required to have it I can see employers dropping it and making it (the insurance) like auto insurance. I think the companies will have to have some sort of incentive to keep the benefits offered.

Also, I was suprised to see that for a call for bipartisanship not one republican is on the committees that Obama talked about last night. I was not able to watch the entire thing, only heard some of it and some spin this am, so if someone can fill me in, please do.

But, I take it day by day. Change is inevitable and difficult. There is nothing being signed right now, just a plan being put together.

#8   2009/09/10 06:31AM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
lovesit
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Quote OspreyGirl: He represents the best of the worst of America.

No matter how much Dems reviled Pres. Bush, I can't recall not one of them in the 8 years he served as president, yell out during his speech and say something like that.

If I'm wrong, then show me proof...otherwise, Wilson and every j@ck@ss like him can go straight to hell.


Try 2005, Bush’s State of the Union. They are all stupid and need to use a better avenue.

#9   2009/09/10 07:54AM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
puddycat
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Quote rei1:
I agree it wasn't the time to disagree, but then again maybe it was....it certainly got the attention of everyone and maybe he had a point?


Who cares if it got the attention of everyone? OF COURSE IT WOULD, a congressman calling the president a liar.! PERIOD!

Maybe Obama did lie..I don't know, but ..he also said that those that have their current heathcare plan....nothing would change.( yeah right) That is not the truth ... he also said he will make people buy insurance like we have to for car insurance and it will be mandatory. ( not what he said in his campaign...Hillary said that and he adamently disagreed) SO his proposal that if you find yourself unemployed will have access to insurance, well you better have some $$ because if you don't have insurance you will be violating the LAW!

hmmmm..

I really tried to see the big picture, I did, But there are still many loopholes in his plan....like just how is he going to fund his plan? Get rid of Gov. ...lol not likely!

He had me at hello and then lost me when he said that everyone in this country is required to purchase health insurance...except for those who can't afford it of course...then obviously the ones purchasing will be paying double for their coverage....which I am keenly aware that's what we are presently doing..

So my big question is ..... what BIG change is he proposing?

edited for a few typos


As far as everything else you said, I will wait and see before I make my judgements.

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#10   2009/09/10 08:04AM
Re: Congressman Joe Wilson - What An Inspiration!
puddycat
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Quote rei1:
Quote Eppy:
Quote rei1: I agree it wasn't the time to disagree, but then again maybe it was....it certainly got the attention of everyone and maybe he had a point?

Maybe Obama did lie..I don't know, but ..he also said that those that have their current heathcare plan....nothing would change.( yeah right) That is not the truth ... he also said he will make people buy insurance like we have to for car insurance and it will be mandatory. ( not what he said in his campaign...Hillary said that and he adamently disagreed) SO his proposal that if you find yourself unemployed will have access to insurance, well you better have some $$ because if you don't have insurance you will be violating the LAW!

hmmmm..

I really tried to see the big picture, I did, But there are still many loopholes in his plan....like just how is he going to fund his plan? Get rid of Gov. ...lol not likely!

He had me at hello and then lost me when he said that everyone in this country is required to purchase health insurance...except for those who can't afford it of course...then obviously the ones purchasing will be paying double for their coverage....which I am keenly aware that's what we are presently doing..

So my big question is ..... what BIG change is he proposing?

edited for a few typos




So many people are concerned - even those of us who are now on Medicare. I am paying an enormous amount of deductible and share of cost on some very expensive and numerous medical bills. My problem - with having to pay a large (combined) bill every month, I cannot afford to take that same amount and purchase supplemental insurance. Once one gets in a hole, there's no getting out. Supplemental insurance would have paid those soc's. So, even with insurance possibilities for all, soc's and deductibles will still probably be a problem, but thank God, at least they won't be obligated for the total bill - and cannot be refused. Joe Wilson needs to get a clue before he shoots off his mouth and makes a fool of himself.





Eppy ...really if I were you I wouldn't worry as much. Medicare Better improve under Obama's plan.

(or you may have voted for the wrong guy)

It's the (no offence) younger generation that will be taking care of Medicare patients ..just like it has been for a long time.

I do hope that Medicare treats you better....


And, when us "not so younger generation" were working for 40+ years, who was taking care of Medicare patients then? So why should we care? We won't be around!

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