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WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
Started by sandi314 at 2009/09/03 11:50AMLatest post: 2009/09/09 05:19AM, Views: 1500, Replies: 137
#71
2009/09/08 07:46PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
baileysmommy |
Quote Prosperity: Quote wannazach: I am very proud to say that not one person where I lived did the whole boycott and protest thing. The kids went to school and they watched the speech and the ones interviewed enjoyed it. Laura Bush said yesterday that it was a great speech and Obama "needed" to make it. See even a Bush approves! I watched the networks in a 150 mile radius and everyone said that it went fine. They interviewed tons of kids who like us where "wth". I hope the kids went home and broke it down and explained it to their ridiculous parents. Maybe they can get through to them. No one else can.  Well unfortunately, this backwards behind state I live in (Alabama), left it up to the different school districts. When I picked up my 5th grader today I asked him how was the speech. He didn't have a clue what I was talking about. As soon as I got to the car I called the office and asked the question why the students didn't see the speech. She informed me that the principal would only let the students who were actually in social studies or civics at the time of the speech was allowed to see the speech. What a bunch of mess. I didn't argue with her but proceeded to find the sppech on CNN and MADE him look at it, report back to me the important points and his overall thoughts about. Why people made such an uproar about an 18 minute is beyond me. We should all continue to be concerned about the other 6 1/2 hours during the day of school work and what the so called teachers are teaching!! Republicans want to throw that mess about the original lesson plan and one of the question the president asked was to write a letter to him stating what they could do to help him. CNN played a tape of George H.W. Bush asking the exact same question!! So what's the problem? This country is so politically and racially divided it's a shame. To much time is wasted on hate and not enough on solutions. SO TRUE! When President obama was elected, I thought as a nation we had made a huge progressive step towards an end to the racisim in this country. BUT the events of the past six months have shown me we are no where near an educated, tolerant, open society. If people would look beyond the corporate contolled mainstream media (yes that includes Fox and CNN) streaming from the TV in their home,and do a few hours of research in the history section of their local library, talk to a few neighbors, maybe put in an hour of community service once a month at a local charity...and listen..really listen to each other...wow what a different world it would be! |
#72
2009/09/08 08:20PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
Prosperity |
I agree Baileysmommy! My husband and I teach our kids about serving others and make them to do community service. I want them to serve and give back. They know how blessed they are and it's their duty to serve others whether it's at church, feeding the homeless etc. |
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2009/09/08 08:26PM
#73
2009/09/08 08:26PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
rei1 |
I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. |
#74
2009/09/08 08:32PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
puddycat |
Quote Prosperity: I agree Baileysmommy! My husband and I teach our kids about serving others and make them to do community service. I want them to serve and give back. They know how blessed they are and it's their duty to serve others whether it's at church, feeding the homeless etc. We as African Americans know that Obama would not have been elected if it wasn't for whites. We are the minority and couldn't have done it with out the white votes. I, too, thought him being elected would bring some type of unity to this country. But of course it has not. I live in a predominately white neighborhood and my kids play with all the kids in the neighborhood. When I look at these innocent children playing and laughing together, not seeing race, but just having fun, makes my heart fill with joy. If only we could keep them innocent and sheltered from the bigotry and cruelty of this world..but I realize we can't. It saddens me to see the country that they are growing up in. So much hatred. I truly don't understand hatred. I just don't understand how someone can simply hate someone for one reason or another. I understand having different views on relgion; different views on politics; different views on raising kids etc. But to hate - is just beyond me. I continue to stay prayerful and pray over my kids daily. What a beautiful and inspiring post, Prosperity It is horrible to see all the hate. And one thing that very few people EVER bring up is that our President is not just AA, but is bi-racial. Some of the racial haters seem to forget that. Hope I don't get smashed for saying this, but why is this so often forgotten? |
#75
2009/09/08 08:39PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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baileysmommy |
Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. The point of my response was in agrreement that we are a very politicaly and racially divided country. Truth is I did not vote for Obama, and I do not agree with everything he has proposed. I think if we each honestly examine our hearts, and not become defensive, we can recognize the instilled racism in each of us. The trick is to become self-aware, informed, and make a real effort to understand each other...walk a mile in each others shoes. We can move towards something meaningful. Thing is there is so much that goes unexamined and unknown about what is really going on in the world and this country. The real motivations behind the corridors of power, so to speak. Governments change nothing...an informed, educated public does. I could go on and on, but from reading most of the threads and posts on this board all I see is the media spin being spit back at each other. No real examination, no critical thinking. No understanding...sad. Really wish there could be intelligent, informed conversation on this board, and not all this media speak, and cut and pasting of this or that blog. Perhaps I am hoping for way too much from a soap opera message board? Anyway, done for tonight.... |
#76
2009/09/08 08:41PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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puddycat |
Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. I have not seen anybody on this thread has actually said "it's all racist" - - just expressing opinions. And once again, I will say that Obama is NOT our first "Black" President - - he is biracial - - why does everyone avoid that??? |
#77
2009/09/08 08:46PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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Prosperity |
Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. You are right Rei1. I don't think every person that doesn't agree with Obama is a racist. I'm not ignorant to the fact people just don't agree with his policies. And if I alluded to the fact that every person against Obama is a racist, that was not my attention. Racism is still alive and breeding. I mentioned about kids innocence because hatred is a learned factor. I guess I have that pastor out of Arizona the preached two weeks that he hates Obama and asked his congregation to pray for him to die. If you're not familiar with this story, just google it. This is what I meant by I just don't understand hate. And mind you, his message had nothing to with Obama's policies biut simply the man himself. Again, I understand not agreeing with any political officials policies. That has been clear for many, many years since this is our first black president and disagreements about policies has been argued waaayyy before Obama was even thought of. But please don't dismiss the fact racism is still alive today. Do I want it be, heck no. But do I see COMPLETE unity and the demise of racism - not in my lifetime!!! |
#78
2009/09/08 08:48PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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rei1 |
Quote : Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. The point of my response was in agrreement that we are a very politicaly and racially divided country. Truth is I did not vote for Obama, and I do not agree with everything he has proposed. I think if we each honestly examine our hearts, and not become defensive, we can recognize the instilled racism in each of us. The trick is to become self-aware, informed, and make a real effort to understand each other...walk a mile in each others shoes. We can move towards something meaningful. Thing is there is so much that goes unexamined and unknown about what is really going on in the world and this country. The real motivations behind the corridors of power, so to speak. Governments change nothing...an informed, educated public does. I could go on and on, but from reading most of the threads and posts on this board all I see is the media spin being spit back at each other. No real examination, no critical thinking. No understanding...sad. Really wish there could be intelligent, informed conversation on this board, and not all this media speak, and cut and pasting of this or that blog. Perhaps I am hoping for way too much from a soap opera message board? Anyway, done for tonight.... *************************************************** baileysmommy you can look at your own racism but don't put that on me. I do research on Obama and heard every one of his speeches, before election and every one since he was elected. Those were words from his own mouth..how much more research do I need? I don't agree with him! Plain and simple. |
#79
2009/09/08 08:50PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
Plot-Twister |
Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. Race was brought up, not as a link to president Obama, but as in racial inequality in general. I know it can be easy to extrapolate and apply a general comment to the entire conversation. I can accept that people disagree with policy. But when I post something about the administration on facebook (where I have alot of "friends" only because I play stupid games) about getting our country back and not understanding that comment and several people write back (who I do not know) saying that it is because no one wants a black president telling them what to do...it is telling of the temperature of society. It is so easy for "us white people" to call african american's "uncle tom" just to make a point. We don't understand each other. We don't try to understand each other. We don't even really want to understand each other. it is sad. |
#80
2009/09/08 08:56PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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baileysmommy |
Quote rei1: Quote : Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. The point of my response was in agrreement that we are a very politicaly and racially divided country. Truth is I did not vote for Obama, and I do not agree with everything he has proposed. I think if we each honestly examine our hearts, and not become defensive, we can recognize the instilled racism in each of us. The trick is to become self-aware, informed, and make a real effort to understand each other...walk a mile in each others shoes. We can move towards something meaningful. Thing is there is so much that goes unexamined and unknown about what is really going on in the world and this country. The real motivations behind the corridors of power, so to speak. Governments change nothing...an informed, educated public does. I could go on and on, but from reading most of the threads and posts on this board all I see is the media spin being spit back at each other. No real examination, no critical thinking. No understanding...sad. Really wish there could be intelligent, informed conversation on this board, and not all this media speak, and cut and pasting of this or that blog. Perhaps I am hoping for way too much from a soap opera message board? Anyway, done for tonight.... *************************************************** baileysmommy you can look at your own racism but don't put that on me. I do research on Obama and heard every one of his speeches, before election and every one since he was elected. Those were words from his own mouth..how much more research do I need? I don't agree with him! Plain and simple. Thanks for making my point. I could not have picked a better example. |
#81
2009/09/08 09:01PM
Re: WHAT'S OBAMA DOING?
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rei1 |
Quote Plot-Twister: Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. Race was brought up, not as a link to president Obama, but as in racial inequality in general. I know it can be easy to extrapolate and apply a general comment to the entire conversation. I can accept that people disagree with policy. But when I post something about the administration on facebook (where I have alot of "friends" only because I play stupid games) about getting our country back and not understanding that comment and several people write back (who I do not know) saying that it is because no one wants a black president telling them what to do...it is telling of the temperature of society. It is so easy for "us white people" to call african american's "uncle tom" just to make a point. We don't understand each other. We don't try to understand each other. We don't even really want to understand each other. it is sad. Plot I have to agree and disagree.....yes there are racist out there and they come in all colors.. My point on the "uncle Tom" was justified....the leader of the RNC ..had been treated like shiot and has been called out. There are AA journalist that have been called out and ridiculed.. |
#82
2009/09/08 09:04PM
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rei1 |
Quote baileysmommy: Quote rei1: Quote : Quote rei1: I really don't understand why people automatically assume that if one is against Obama's policy..that automatically makes them a racist. Considering that this is out first Black president, I suppose that is the easy way to assume that it must be racist...but really that is not fair. I see it as a policy that I don't agree with, just like I didn't agree with Clinton. This carrying on that all people that disagree with the present administration is because we are racist..just perpetuates racism. But that may be the Democrats best comeback...believe it or not there have been reasons to disagree with an administration and they were legit to you (you in general) (Look into your own reasons for not agreeing with any adminstration) ..Just because He happens to be African American makes no difference to me and I'm sure countless others...there are many African Americans that don't agree with Obama..... what are they called "Uncle Tom"? Many don't agree with Obama....but really to say it's all racist..is rediculas. The point of my response was in agrreement that we are a very politicaly and racially divided country. Truth is I did not vote for Obama, and I do not agree with everything he has proposed. I think if we each honestly examine our hearts, and not become defensive, we can recognize the instilled racism in each of us. The trick is to become self-aware, informed, and make a real effort to understand each other...walk a mile in each others shoes. We can move towards something meaningful. Thing is there is so much that goes unexamined and unknown about what is really going on in the world and this country. The real motivations behind the corridors of power, so to speak. Governments change nothing...an informed, educated public does. I could go on and on, but from reading most of the threads and posts on this board all I see is the media spin being spit back at each other. No real examination, no critical thinking. No understanding...sad. Really wish there could be intelligent, informed conversation on this board, and not all this media speak, and cut and pasting of this or that blog. Perhaps I am hoping for way too much from a soap opera message board? Anyway, done for tonight.... *************************************************** baileysmommy you can look at your own racism but don't put that on me. I do research on Obama and heard every one of his speeches, before election and every one since he was elected. Those were words from his own mouth..how much more research do I need? I don't agree with him! Plain and simple. Thanks for making my point. I could not have picked a better example. A better example of not agreeing with his policy? |
#83
2009/09/08 09:05PM
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puddycat |
Okay - - I am going to ask once again - - why does everyone call Obama our first BLACK president. He is biracial - - meaning Black/White, African American/Caucasian. |
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2009/09/08 09:06PM
#84
2009/09/08 09:09PM
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rei1 |
Quote baileysmommy: Okay - - I am going to ask once again - - why does everyone call Obama our first BLACK president. He is biracial - - meaning Black/White, African American/Caucasian. Why is it that everybody avoids that? It makes me crazy! He is NOT our first Black President!!!!!!! And this fact is NOT irrelevant!!! ******************************************************** Puddycat you are right he is half white half African American, but apparently many see's him as African American and to disagree is racist. Maybe I should only speak about the half white person and then I wouldn't be called a racist. edited to say that whatever race he is.....I don't agree with his policy's |
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2009/09/08 09:11PM
#85
2009/09/08 09:11PM
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puddycat |
You know what? Never mind. This thread was started about the speech that Obama gave today and has turned out, once again, to be a back and forth argument, not debate, between some who disagree with each other's posts |
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