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Quote Plot-Twister: So, REI are you saying that all presidents should be catching hell for talking to students? All presidents who decide to go into an elementary classroom and read to the students should be bashed (prior to the actual reading)? Should parents be allowed to keep their kids home on the day that the president is coming to visit the school and that should be ok? Because yeah, really, who is he? Just the dude that is running the country. We don't like him Johnny, he blows....so you can't meet the most important man in the country. Stupid logic if you ask me. And to ADD Hypocracy runs deep.... |
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Quote rei1: Quote Plot-Twister: So, REI are you saying that all presidents should be catching hell for talking to students? All presidents who decide to go into an elementary classroom and read to the students should be bashed (prior to the actual reading)? Should parents be allowed to keep their kids home on the day that the president is coming to visit the school and that should be ok? Because yeah, really, who is he? Just the dude that is running the country. We don't like him Johnny, he blows....so you can't meet the most important man in the country. Stupid logic if you ask me. All that I am saying is that all Presidents catch hell for whatever reason....that's a fact...It's unbelievabe that Obama catches crap and all of a sudden it's a crime or it's bigotry...What was everyone saying about all the past Presidents...Why is Obama supposed to be someone different from all the past and future Presidents? It is because he is planning on making a speech to school children about the importance of education and contributing to your country...and they are comparing him to Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!! |
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the only time Pres Bush caught he!! for reading to students.......was when planes flown by terrorists were crashing into the world trade center....and it was whispered in his ear, what had happened......there was no uproar prior to his reading to the class.......no parent opposition.,...from either party.........that he would dare speak to the schools or read to them.....He wants to make a speech....... essentially giving a pep talk to our children....a pep talk that may give some very at risk children hope and strength to continue on with their education......he has the right to do that,....and he has the right to say what he feels is important....under the freedom of speech. ..........which by the way .....his speeches are not written by him....but he does have the authority and final say in deciding what he will say....IMO there is a movement to set this President up to fail......there is no, ...lets wait and see what he does,...lets give him the benefit of the doubt.....and really fromt the people that feel this way...the people that feel they have to knock him back down to the ground, ...before hes even standing all the way up......these people that do that, if they have children.......should really look at what they are teaching their children....I believe that may be called anarchy....and basically teaches the youth....not to trust ....not to believe....not to wait before they act....just to be reactionary...and that if you dont like your boss...that you have known for 10 mins....you should tell them they are never going to make it.....that they have no clue as to what they are doing....that your old boss ( who was basically fired for not being effective and for putting you in debt) was sooooooo much better.....and if he was still here you wouldnt have these issues.....wake up everyone...Obama is the Pres. let him do what he needs to do....speaking to students...reading a book to them....its called encouragement....how can you possibly say thats bad? |
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On Tuesday morning, President Barack Obama plans to give a nationally televised speech directed to school children. He wants to talk about the importance of working hard and staying in school. It's a kind of presidential pep talk for kids. |
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I've heard part of the problem is when in his speech certain celebs will pledge different things and one pledges to serve Obama. All I have to say to that is I serve one being and if in serving him I inturn serve our pres. so be it. I've already discussed it with my kids and Im not to worried, I have no problem with him telling my kids to stay in school but I do have a problem if political crap is thrown in! As if Kennedys Funeral wasn't bad enough with political stuff thrown in (and said by children no less!)! |
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I thought I heard that everyone would have access to the speech today and can read it over the internet. Has anyone found that yet, or was I just dreaming? |
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Quote bigtimesoapfan: I've heard part of the problem is when in his speech certain celebs will pledge different things and one pledges to serve Obama. All I have to say to that is I serve one being and if in serving him I inturn serve our pres. so be it. I've already discussed it with my kids and Im not to worried, I have no problem with him telling my kids to stay in school but I do have a problem if political crap is thrown in! As if Kennedys Funeral wasn't bad enough with political stuff thrown in (and said by children no less!)! My children will attend school and if they want to listen to him so be it they are smart enough to judge for themselves!! Nothing can be as bad (I hope) when I was in school(and im sure many othrs on here were too) were watching in school as the space shuttle challenger exploded back in 86 I think( I remember it was on Punky Brewster after(loved that show) I also remember other presidents talking to us and since I now have no clue what they talked about my kids will do jst fine!! My grandson who is in the Air Force was chosen out of his squadron to attend President Obama's meeting in Az. He said he was a great speaker , very likable and even shook hands with him . He was allowed to take pictures of the president . I'm not a fan of Obamas's ..but I believe in giving him a chance. |
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Quote : Quote rei1: Quote Plot-Twister: So, REI are you saying that all presidents should be catching hell for talking to students? All presidents who decide to go into an elementary classroom and read to the students should be bashed (prior to the actual reading)? Should parents be allowed to keep their kids home on the day that the president is coming to visit the school and that should be ok? Because yeah, really, who is he? Just the dude that is running the country. We don't like him Johnny, he blows....so you can't meet the most important man in the country. Stupid logic if you ask me. All that I am saying is that all Presidents catch hell for whatever reason....that's a fact...It's unbelievabe that Obama catches crap and all of a sudden it's a crime or it's bigotry...What was everyone saying about all the past Presidents...Why is Obama supposed to be someone different from all the past and future Presidents? Of course all president's catch hell for whatever reason. I think it is rather hypocritical IN THIS INSTANCE. Because no one ever gave parents the choice to keep their children away from other president's when they came to visit their schools. Of course AFTER the president's or vice's visited, some criticism came....like spelling potatoes and "my pet goat" while the US was under attack...but even after that no one was against the president speaking to kids. I am not saying that Obama shouldn't be under fire....just put him under fire for things that are reasonable....don't pick a dumb thing and go for it....pick something substantial. |
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I have been wanting to give my opinion on this for sometime! |
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I saw the speech that Rei posted and it's a great speech. if a celebrity said they would serve obama i really don't see the big deal. if people don't care for that choice of words then they can talk to their kids...it's pretty trivial if you ask me..we are asked to "serve" our country in the military. the speech was very good in my opinion. i can not even think up a reason to dislike it. |
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Quote Plot-Twister: Quote : Quote rei1: Quote Plot-Twister: So, REI are you saying that all presidents should be catching hell for talking to students? All presidents who decide to go into an elementary classroom and read to the students should be bashed (prior to the actual reading)? Should parents be allowed to keep their kids home on the day that the president is coming to visit the school and that should be ok? Because yeah, really, who is he? Just the dude that is running the country. We don't like him Johnny, he blows....so you can't meet the most important man in the country. Stupid logic if you ask me. All that I am saying is that all Presidents catch hell for whatever reason....that's a fact...It's unbelievabe that Obama catches crap and all of a sudden it's a crime or it's bigotry...What was everyone saying about all the past Presidents...Why is Obama supposed to be someone different from all the past and future Presidents? Of course all president's catch hell for whatever reason. I think it is rather hypocritical IN THIS INSTANCE. Because no one ever gave parents the choice to keep their children away from other president's when they came to visit their schools. Of course AFTER the president's or vice's visited, some criticism came....like spelling potatoes and "my pet goat" while the US was under attack...but even after that no one was against the president speaking to kids. I am not saying that Obama shouldn't be under fire....just put him under fire for things that are reasonable....don't pick a dumb thing and go for it....pick something substantial. I really think that people..including me, were upset about the "I Pledge" video that was supposed to be shown prior to Obama speaking. To me it's self serving and can appear to be somewhat leading children..who are watching without their parents present, to just believe what the celebrities are saying..kinda brainwashing. The reason celebrities endorse anything is because they are well known and for the sole purpose of influencing their market. That "I pledge" video is marketing directly to kids. The video for the most part is harmless, except when they invoke pledging to serve Obama. That is purley political and doesn't need to be part of that pledge. If for instance if some celebrities promised that to another president that some don't care for you bet your booty that people will be outraged. Keep politics out of the speech and it's great. |
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I believe a debate and a discussion will ensue anyway. |
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First let me start by saying there is not an actual Pledge to the President similar to the Pledge of Alligience. |
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Quote Plot-Twister: First let me start by saying there is not an actual Pledge to the President similar to the Pledge of Alligience. If you don't want your kids to see celebrity endorsements, then don't let them watch commercials or any sort of billboard adverts. I think what the campaign was trying to invoke was community....similar to "win one for the gipper" anyway....my brother (who is a teacher) has a very different viewpoint on this subject. He says that the parents who are all up in arms and discussing it are the parents who are generally raising their kids well. They tell their children all of the things that the President is planning on telling them in his speech. But many MANY children do not hear this message once let alone on a continuous basis. My brother says that the president is doing this because it has to be done. Children have to learn to believe in themselves because many parents don't do that job. I thought that was an interesting viewpoint. I agree with your brothers take on the speech. And unfortunately there are some parents that don't encourage. I did agree with what Obama said in the speech and I can't imagine anyone thinking it was a bad message. |
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