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Started by puddycat at 2009/08/27 08:18PM
Latest post: 2009/09/15 07:13AM, Views: 495, Replies: 48
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#21   2009/08/28 07:09AM
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gommie
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Quote rei1: I wonder how she finally got away? I'm sure she must have been terrified to go off the premises...she is one brave person....maybe she had stolkholm syndrome...but finially saw that is was not right for her kids to grow up that way...or maybe the abductors (pedohiles) finally made their move on her children...

since she was only 11 and kept captive in very primitive dwellings..I wonder if she matured intellectually, but without proper guidence how can that happen? I just wonder about that....




He was passing out his literature on the Berkley Campus when campus police got suspicious -these suspicions led to his eventual arrest and confession..



I thought I read that he had the kids (his and the captive woman) there with him? Did I read that wrong?




Apparently he was asking permission from the campus police to pass out his literature- the two kids were with him and the campus police got suspicious of the relationship and contacted someone to run a check on him, something like that- it was discovered that he was on parole- he was taken in for questioning at some point and confessed to the kidnapping? ??

I think the news said when he went in for questioning he had the wife and the kids with him..


Well the bottom line is that he was BUSTED! I hope that this is not a drawn out case, especially if his captive has proof and give her and her children the respect that they deserve....no need to drag this out..especially for the sake of the woman and her children. That would be horrible to them.

There is a case here in CT that two men invaded a home and raped a mother and her daughter, beat the father and lit fire to the house...the mother and her two daughters ( one was spared the rape)..died in the home, the father is the sole survivor. Well that happened two years ago and the trial is still ongoing...Lawyers for the criminals are dragging this case out for all it's worth to them, meanwhile the father is going through a living hell. It seems that the criminals are given so many rights for pleading and trying to lessen their sentences..that seems to be more important to the lawyers than the feelings of this poor man that lost his family..




It's the same here in CA- the victims pay and pay and pay some more --

#22   2009/08/28 07:10AM
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i saw last night on the news...... that the girls mother said..... that the girl remembers everything...that poor girl, even with all the great mental health care out there and that she will undoubtedly get....how will she ever come to terms with any of the this sick stuff that happened to her......... and to have two children by these freaks....... It breaks my heart really to know that she will be haunted by this forever....... I hope they do get the death penalty. Its so hard to wrap my head around the fact that there are really people out there......that go to these lengths. ....sex slaves?.... cant even imagine how sick a mind you'd have to have to think that through....and to go kidnap some one to satisfy your sickness.....I have an 11 year old daughter....this just eats up my soul.....to think that there could be some predator out there that would do this to her.
she has lost a life time....a child hood....heart breaking story!

#23   2009/08/28 07:51AM
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Quote raving: i saw last night on the news...... that the girls mother said..... that the girl remembers everything...that poor girl, even with all the great mental health care out there and that she will undoubtedly get....how will she ever come to terms with any of the this sick stuff that happened to her......... and to have two children by these freaks....... It breaks my heart really to know that she will be haunted by this forever....... I hope they do get the death penalty. Its so hard to wrap my head around the fact that there are really people out there......that go to these lengths. ....sex slaves?.... cant even imagine how sick a mind you'd have to have to think that through....and to go kidnap some one to satisfy your sickness.....I have an 11 year old daughter....this just eats up my soul.....to think that there could be some predator out there that would do this to her.
she has lost a life time....a child hood....heart breaking story!


RAV, you hit the nail on the head there. it is horrid!
rest of sure that God will make sure they get their just dues!

#24   2009/08/28 07:53AM
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alwaysEJ
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The guy was on lifetime parole for a prior rape conviction, I believe. Clearly he has violated his parole so he should go right back to jail. Is it possible in CA that someone who has not committed murder can get the death penalty? I don't know CA law. This really really makes a case for locking rapists up for good. Not only did he reoffend, he reoffended this same girl for almost two decades & who knows what he's done to those two young children he fathered. Oh & I can't even type this without getting chill bumps!

#25   2009/08/28 08:09AM
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Quote alwaysEJ: The guy was on lifetime parole for a prior rape conviction, I believe. Clearly he has violated his parole so he should go right back to jail. Is it possible in CA that someone who has not committed murder can get the death penalty? I don't know CA law. This really really makes a case for locking rapists up for good. Not only did he reoffend, he reoffended this same girl for almost two decades & who knows what he's done to those two young children he fathered. Oh & I can't even type this without getting chill bumps!


no ej I don't think you can get the death penalty with out committing murder. But for the life of me, I don't understand how he got out in the first place.....and a lifetime parole?......that's odd too.....was nobody monitoring this guy? did he not have to check in with his parole officer? The covering up this guy did must have been amazing, or he was somehow over looked......and to be allowed on any kind of campus....college or otherwise, seems like it could or should have also been a violation of his parole. This is just so twisted on so many levels its sickening!

#26   2009/08/28 08:25AM
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this story boggles my mind!~icantimaginethis did not git caught all this time!~i kin never understand how people can git this creepy and sick and live with themselves even. and ta think they live amongst us!~~gaawwd!~it breaks my heart ta hear this. i have 3 daughters and i know if it were me, i would want this man and woman dead!~ sorry, but an eye for an eye!~ how bout that creepy german guy named josef fritz? he fathered 7 kids with his daughter an kept em in ah undergroun basement. there wuz 9 doors ta unlock ta git to em finally~ he also had 7 with his wife upstairs. he kept 4 locked downstairs for 25 years or sumpthin . he brought the other three upstair ta his wife ta raise and supposedly she never had ah clue. now he is locked up and has ah really nice cell with air purifiers and stuff like that. he is ah monster. and these folks are also!~ btw, i was raised in antioch ca.

#27   2009/08/28 10:05AM
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Well, I know some of the public wants to know what happened in those 18 years, but I think they should lay off for a while. They just need to get that man and his wife in jail for the rest of their lives, but most important, leave Jaycee alone with her family to heal. Even Elizabeth Smart said they need to let her have peace and no questions asked right away, and I agree. She is home safe now with her family and her two daughters. She has much to catch up with and there is no need to make her relive the horror so soon. She and the kids need physical and mental attention now.

Also, I feel very sorry for the stepfather who was a suspect all these years.

Bittersweet ending to all of this, but she is alive.

#28   2009/08/28 11:42AM
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Quote alwaysEJ: The guy was on lifetime parole for a prior rape conviction, I believe. Clearly he has violated his parole so he should go right back to jail. Is it possible in CA that someone who has not committed murder can get the death penalty? I don't know CA law. This really really makes a case for locking rapists up for good. Not only did he reoffend, he reoffended this same girl for almost two decades & who knows what he's done to those two young children he fathered. Oh & I can't even type this without getting chill bumps!
If I'm not mistaken alwaysEJ, there is a provision in Calif. law where a person can be sentenced to death for torture - and if this isn't a case of torture, I don't know what is!

#29   2009/08/28 11:59AM
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He has a blogspot

voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/


He was also working on a website:

WWW.GODSDESIRE.NET.

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#30   2009/08/28 12:45PM
Re: Kidnapped Calfornia Girl Found Alive - -
alwaysEJ
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Quote Eppy:
Quote alwaysEJ: The guy was on lifetime parole for a prior rape conviction, I believe. Clearly he has violated his parole so he should go right back to jail. Is it possible in CA that someone who has not committed murder can get the death penalty? I don't know CA law. This really really makes a case for locking rapists up for good. Not only did he reoffend, he reoffended this same girl for almost two decades & who knows what he's done to those two young children he fathered. Oh & I can't even type this without getting chill bumps!
If I'm not mistaken alwaysEJ, there is a provision in Calif. law where a person can be sentenced to death for torture - and if this isn't a case of torture, I don't know what is!


Thanks, that's interesting. I certainly would think they could prosecute him for torturing this poor girl. I just ache for her, thinking of her life all these years. I am not always 100% pro-death penalty - certainly have some qualms about it - but I just wouldn't lose much sleep if this man & his insane accomplice/wife were sentenced to death.

#31   2009/08/28 01:41PM
Re: Kidnapped Calfornia Girl Found Alive - -
puddycat
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote Eppy:
Quote alwaysEJ: The guy was on lifetime parole for a prior rape conviction, I believe. Clearly he has violated his parole so he should go right back to jail. Is it possible in CA that someone who has not committed murder can get the death penalty? I don't know CA law. This really really makes a case for locking rapists up for good. Not only did he reoffend, he reoffended this same girl for almost two decades & who knows what he's done to those two young children he fathered. Oh & I can't even type this without getting chill bumps!
If I'm not mistaken alwaysEJ, there is a provision in Calif. law where a person can be sentenced to death for torture - and if this isn't a case of torture, I don't know what is!


Thanks, that's interesting. I certainly would think they could prosecute him for torturing this poor girl. I just ache for her, thinking of her life all these years. I am not always 100% pro-death penalty - certainly have some qualms about it - but I just wouldn't lose much sleep if this man & his insane accomplice/wife were sentenced to death.


I tried to google this and came up with nothing - - as far as CA executing people for torture, unless there was an actual murder....but....whatever.

#32   2009/08/28 08:12PM
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This is my feelings about those two freaks. Don't kill them, that's too easy. First for him, castrate him, and not chemically either, then cut the pen.s off, that should end any sexual desire, her I guess cut the cl.t off and sew her shut, know what I mean? Then solatary comfinement w/t.v. maybe once a year to keep them wanting something they will never have again. Make it impossible to overturn. I THINK if you give them life plus one day, they will never parole cuz they would never complete life to get to that one day. And it just goes all over me how this man slipped thru parole stuff all these years. GOD THIS IS BAD

#33   2009/08/28 11:18PM
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I also have young children....... this case makes me not able to sleep at night.

I may seem overprotective...but what else can I do?

#34   2009/08/31 07:06AM
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It's sad that all eyes have been on the step father for all these years. I remember seeing him on Geraldo in 93. His composite of the passenger(the sicko's wife) and it was spot on! If they had spent more time following the leads and less on him It might have helped. He was on FOX News tis weekend and I though it was incredible not once did he express displeasure of anysort towards the law inforcement of his community. It's really sad that it took this long. I also heard that his parole officer was called out there 3 years ago and didn't even take one step into that man's back yard!

#35   2009/08/31 07:09AM
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bigtimesoapfan
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Quote sandi314: This is my feelings about those two freaks. Don't kill them, that's too easy. First for him, castrate him, and not chemically either, then cut the pen.s off, that should end any sexual desire, her I guess cut the cl.t off and sew her shut, know what I mean? Then solatary comfinement w/t.v. maybe once a year to keep them wanting something they will never have again. Make it impossible to overturn. I THINK if you give them life plus one day, they will never parole cuz they would never complete life to get to that one day. And it just goes all over me how this man slipped thru parole stuff all these years. GOD THIS IS BAD


In nicer terms it's basically a female circumcission (which in general I think is sick and disgusting but for women like this I think it's an excellent punishment! And I definitley agree with what should be done to him!

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