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ICAM!!!! It's too bad more people don't "wake up and smell the coffee!!" Whats he gonna do wait until they bomb us? Yeah thats smart!! I'll say it again "Our for fathers are rolling over in their graves shaking their heads saying "what has happened to our country!!" I know I am!!

TO answer your I just read a Bill O'rielly book called the Culture Warriors. And I have to say wow! I read the whole thing and couldn't put it down! It was excellent! Your is answered in that book. It left me wondering What's not to like about this guy!! IMO!!(and before I get jumped on there is not one word about our current president in this book).

The whole situation imo is sickening! My Family from the first generation that came came to the USA and right up to my dad (and my hubby's dad(who was awarded a purple heart have fought for the democracy our country enjoys! My dad was in Vietnam and even though he says it was a mess and what happened there shaped his life(and my hubby'd dad's as well)not in good ways he would do it all over again to protect our freedom! We are not socialists and this is not a socialistic country nor was it ever intended to be!! and imo if those who want to be socialists and live in a socialistic country find one and move there!! And leave our democracy alone!!

Yea, Bush dropped the ball so many times I wonder why we kept giving it back to him...then I remember who he went up against and think, well, it could have been worse. Maybe. Probably.
I also wonder why Obama is so quiet. It took him a week to condemn Iran, and this situation is worse, for us as a nation, I think. How long are we going to have to wait? Until the ship lands and we find out once and for all if they are really going to go through with their threat? I agree we have to proceed with caution, but I'm starting to think he is being too cautious, meaning taking too much time. Its looking like we aren't going to proceed at all. When N. Korea has WMDs, the whole world will suffer. If the UN is not going to do anything about it but talk about it, it will be left up to us, again, to act. And once again, we will come off as the aggressor, even though we are simply retaliating.
I have no idea the best solution, I just wish Obama would do something, good or bad (to a degree), so we can all quit waiting and anticipating. I know you have to gather intelligence, but how much more is he waiting on? The whole world knows the situation.

Bush Jr. Didn't get much criticism when he ignored NK and Lil Kim and his nuke plan and chose to go after the great mythical WMD's in Iraq. He had firm data discussed by Lil Kim that NK had a nuke program. We did NOTHING about NK. NOTHING. Now we are all up in arms because our current president is not immediately saying anything about Lil Kim and NK and all of Lil Kim's threats. Gee....Yeah, blame Obama without giving him a chance. Who do we think we are anyway? We elect our president to act for us. We don't know everything he does. We don't get daily reports.

All I am saying, and I think Sarah is too.....is that 8 years of bush let this situation get to this point. Give Obama a chance. He might not be telling us everything to avoid mass hysteria.

well said sarah and plot, we all are guilty of being arm chair quarterbacks (hope that is the right word) however, we have to sit back and realize we are not in any position to make decisions based on news reports, we all have seen how bullying worked, we lost the war, respect, and allies, as much as i would like obama to tell lil kim, hurt any part of our country and we will wipe you off the face of the earth, i believe he is handling it the right way, JMO

fyi, my husband calls me charles bronsonette, so i am really working at being sensible, for those of you who don't know who charles bronson is,he is a very successful vigilante

lovesit, i am curious, if you were obama what would you do? just to be clear, i think he is doing exactly what he should be doing

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How is Bush doing nothing any different than what Obama is doing now? I am no Bush lover, and it is no secret I despise most of what Obama wants to do, but really, you say Bush did nothing, and here we are waiting for Obama to do something days later.
Maybe Bush acted without us knowing it, the way we are so hoping Obama is doing? Which could be why they waited until now to do something like this. IDK, I'm just saying you can't say in one sentence that every president moves behind the scene, and in the next assume we know all about what Bush did/didn't do. Or any president for that matter, not just him. You gots to be fair.

Bush did nothing for 8 years. Obama has been in office for 6 months. That is a big difference. 8 years vs 6 months. Let's say that Bush did do something behind the scenes....we def would have heard about it this many years after. We have had members of his cabinet come out and say that he went in with purpose trying to tie Iraq into 9/11...And Fox would certainly be reporting it like the finding of the holy grail.

But thats irrelevant, cause thats not what I was trying to say. I was just saying that to not include Obama in this makes no sense to me. He might have been in office only 6 months, but he has countless executive orders, has had countless conferences, meetings... he's basically been doing so much promotion he is over-exposed. To blame this on past administrations would mean that Korea would have given us a chance to see if our completely new administration is more to their liking. Since its not, I can only group Obama in with the rest of the pact.
Also, the whole world knows that the man who proposed he could unite the US is the one who tore us farther apart, and if I were the enemy I would strike now, too.

Who knows what NK would have done if they hadn't been called part of the axis of evil....you cannot predict things that never occurred. We let them create their nuke program. We did nothing to stop it. We concentrated on Iraq.

And yes, I can put the blame on other administrations. Every administration inherits garbage. Obama inherited a recession bordering on depression, economic meltdown, and a couple of wars...just some biggies. He has been an active presence in executive orders, briefings, and all that. He is trying to fix things.

And in the interest of fairness, Bush jr inherited a surplus and signs of a troubled economy on the rise. He chose to squander that. Clinton also left detailed information on Al Queda that bush admin ignored (according to a former bush person). Clinton left a history with how he dealt with embassy bombings and Bush got to decide how he wanted to handle those things.

I think your argument regarding NK giving Obama's admin a chance is flawed in that you are not taking into consideration everything that has happened in the past. They are past the point in caring who is in charge. Lil Kim is crazy. He is pizzed...and it is the past admins that contributed to it.

And I don't know what you mean by that last sentance of the highlighted paragraph means.