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I don't think our actions - past or present - are at all to blame for anything North Korea does. We could take a kitten like position toward them & it wouldn't change their behavior. I think the North Korean leadership would seek nukes regardless. North Korea may think we're 'after them' so they need nukes - but it's circular logic b/c we're 'after them' because they want nukes & have stated their intent to use them. I think they hate us b/c we're free & we stand for freedom & democracy - & b/c we've had our troops in South Korea for over fifty years now.

I don't advocate declaring war on them. The world doesn't work that way anymore really. I do think since they have threatened a state in our union (Hawaii), we have a right to stick our nose in their business in a significant way.

Granted, I would not be happy with them sitting on nukes even if they were making no specific threats toward the U.S. or any other nation. I mean Japan didn't announce the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Editing to add - I am not claiming anyone posting has said that the U.S. is to blame for North Korea's insanity...if that was said directly, I missed it. I just think talk of 'oh if we did such & such we could avoid this' is futile b/c I think the NKs are nuts & that fuels their actions, not anything we do or say.

I do think Bush was right to call them evil...they are evil & did not recently decide to become evil b/c George W. called them evil. Reagan once called the Soviet Union evil & he was criticized for it - but he was right to say it. Granted, Reagan did more about the Soviet Union than Bush did about North Korea, but Bush's mistake wasn't using the word evil.

And, I like Reagan a whole lot more than Bush anyway. A whole lot more.

in my opinion, it doesn't matter who did what, what matters is we all stand together as americans, i would like to know, could we take them down with air strikes if they do in fact invade any of our states?

editing to say... we had my MIL over for the weekend, she said she was glad her husband and my parents were not here to see this

Let us put this into really simplistic terms.

Let's say there is a group of students who continually get picked on and start hanging out together. They form this bond. Everyone else at school picks on them, slams them into lockers and and makes fun of them. One of them begins a cycle of depression and starts thinking about suicide. Now these friends are a little off the beaten path. But then there is a pep assembly and they are pointed out and named as the useless nerds of the school. So, they decide to show how useless they are and kill a bunch of people in the school in addition to taking their own lives.

Who is NK in that scenario?

I don't see how any of our past cabinets hold any majority blame, or really any tangible blame at all. For that argument, you would have to say the new administration is at fault, too. After all, we have had this new cabinet for almost 6 months, and now we have the first real threat from them since the Korean war. I think the blame lies solely on N. Korea's insanity.
Just thought since every one else was saying why they thought we are where we are I would join in. Of course, blame doesn't matter anyways. What matters is what we're going to do about it. Big talk and no action like always with them? And hope to live another day? Or do we now have good intelligence that will help us do what we need to do? I hope time doesn't tell us the former.

Ohh this just cracks me up...Obama has no plans and "it's for a reason" if it were Bush...people would be screaming from the rafters "WHY WON'T HE DO SOMETHING!"

Get real folks those who HATE Bush would find everthing and anything to biotch about, but Obama in office is all hands off?

Look at any network news station(ABC, CBS, NBC) and they treat Obama with kid gloves. Bush was raked over the coals even before the Iraq situation. The Media were just about salivating when no weapons were found...and they played that card over and over....

LOL...(in jest) I really would not be surprised if those weapons were found somewhere else...after all The USA did play by the book and went to extreme measures to have hearings about the whole mess before we took action...and it was aired on TV for all and I mean ALL to see.... does anyone really think that Sadam Huessein was an idoit? A tyrant he was and also a mastermind of deception..hmmm think about that.