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What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?

Started by BaileyBaby at 2009/06/23 08:15AM
Latest post: 2009/06/25 05:50PM, Views: 562, Replies: 65
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#11   2009/06/24 04:58AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
cats meow
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do we have any troops to fight there? i have no clue

#12   2009/06/24 05:46AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
sarahconnor
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Quote cats meow: do we have any troops to fight there? i have no clue


we have some troops in south korea (dates back to korean war) that are still there but not nearly enough. that's about it tho.

#13   2009/06/24 05:56AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
sarahconnor
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Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote sarahconnor: also let it be known that although i'm casting blame to a degree i wish i had some sort idea to resolve this. i don't. i am too much of a hothead to ever *ever* be president. the only thing i could think of is to tell them that if they want to do their testing and come any where near anything considered territory of the US, it will instantly be considered a threat, declaration of war and we will retaliate with the most harsh force possible. i would also advise the UN of this and let North Korea know things can be peaceful IF they choose it. of course that is not the answer but i do hope we figure something out.


Yea u would think if we were going to war with anyone it would be NK because there is proof of weapons of mass destruction but bush knew we would't get anything out of the deal (oil). And also there army is massive and if we went in there alone we would probably get our butts kicked. Like I said I don't see how anyone could agree with Bush's choice to invade Iraq. There are other places in this world that are far worse then Iraq that we could of help but the motive wasn't to help it was for oil.



yep. and since bush included them as a part of the axis of evil AND after seeing how we invaded iraq, (going against the UN & finding out they had no WMD) this crazy NK leader thinks they are targeted next and wants to show his dominance. all along, NK has been the real threat - bush knew that. of course bush felt it was his legacy to free iraq. (nevermind the real threat against the U.S. is getting even larger) - he changed his reasons at times for the invasion of Iraq. he basically promised iraqis a better nation and there are still car bombings, all kinds of crazy things going on. it's no wonder he got shoes thrown at him.

#14   2009/06/24 06:13AM
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alwaysEJ
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I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.

#15   2009/06/24 06:46AM
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lovesit
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news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

Lord help us all.

#16   2009/06/24 06:57AM
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princesschyr...
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Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.


What I was saying since the bush lover like to twist stuff around to take the heat off him. I don't see how invading NK would ne perplexing when NK is clearly a danger to the WORLD! And I said if we went in there alone we would get our bums handed to us but other countries would surely have our backs because they no it is a matter of the worlds security versus the almosr pointless war in Iraq! You know soldiers die for Americans freedom, rights and safety I feel like our soldiers are dieing in a pointless war right now. While NK has NUCLEAR bombs and there is genocide going on in Africa but like I said those countries have nothing we want so we just turn our heads. I rather our soldiers not die at all but if they have to go to war I mean shouldn't be for something extreme like we know these people have nuclear bombs they must be stopped versus we think uh maybe these guys have bad stuff come on if you can't see the wrong in that you are blind!

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#17   2009/06/24 07:02AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
lovesit
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I remember where Bush gave a speech where he finally admitted the intelligence he receieved about Iraq was wrong. At least he admitted his biggest mistake, not that it could change anything at that point.

#18   2009/06/24 07:05AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
BaileyBaby
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So far I will say you guys are handling this thread wonderfully. You are all very well read & informed!! I started this because I really didn't know that much about N. Korea... Thanks so much & let's try to not make this entirely past political. All that does is inflame each other & get the moderators more than interested!!

Thanks for the info.....

#19   2009/06/24 07:10AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
alwaysEJ
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Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.


What I was saying since the bush lover like to twist stuff around to take the heat of him. I don't see how invavding NK would ne perplexing when NK is clearly a danger to the WORLD! And I said if we went in there alone we would get our bums handed to use but other countries would surely have our backs because they no it is a matter of the worlds security! You know soldiers die for Americans freedom rights and safety I feel like our soldiers are dieing in a pointless war right now. When NK has NUCLEAR bombs and there is genocide going on in Africa but like I said those countries havde nothing we want so we just turn our heads. I rather our soldiers not die at all but if they have to go to war I mean shouldn't be for something extreme like we know these people have nuclear bombs they must be stopped versus we think uh maybe these guys have bad stuff come on if you can't see the wrong in that you are blind!


I have been highly critical of Bush. He disappointed me in many ways. I said I have issues with how things were handled regarding Iraq. I just don't think there would've have been any more support from people who opposed the invasion of Iraq for an invasion of North Korea. I don't think we should invade North Korea at all. I think that would be a disaster.

For many years, we didn't know exactly what North Korea was up to b/c they would not allow inspectors to do their job. Part of the reason they continue to do whatever the he11 they want is that they have defied the international community for years & suffered few consequences for it. This is the fault of many U.S. presidents as well as the U.N.

I don't think the statement that 'they don't have anything we want' is totally accurate. They are currently holding freedom & peace over the world's head, as they threaten those things with the weapons they possess. We want those things. Most of the world's nations, & their leaders, want to live without fear of a nuke...the North Korean leaders thrive on the fear they instill. They are twisted.

#20   2009/06/24 07:22AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
princesschyr...
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.


What I was saying since the bush lover like to twist stuff around to take the heat of him. I don't see how invavding NK would ne perplexing when NK is clearly a danger to the WORLD! And I said if we went in there alone we would get our bums handed to use but other countries would surely have our backs because they no it is a matter of the worlds security! You know soldiers die for Americans freedom rights and safety I feel like our soldiers are dieing in a pointless war right now. When NK has NUCLEAR bombs and there is genocide going on in Africa but like I said those countries havde nothing we want so we just turn our heads. I rather our soldiers not die at all but if they have to go to war I mean shouldn't be for something extreme like we know these people have nuclear bombs they must be stopped versus we think uh maybe these guys have bad stuff come on if you can't see the wrong in that you are blind!


I have been highly critical of Bush. He disappointed me in many ways. I said I have issues with how things were handled regarding Iraq. I just don't think there would've have been any more support from people who opposed the invasion of Iraq for an invasion of North Korea. I don't think we should invade North Korea at all. I think that would be a disaster.

For many years, we didn't know exactly what North Korea was up to b/c they would not allow inspectors to do their job. Part of the reason they continue to do whatever the he11 they want is that they have defied the international community for years & suffered few consequences for it. This is the fault of many U.S. presidents as well as the U.N.

I don't think the statement that 'they don't have anything we want' is totally accurate. They are currently holding freedom & peace over the world's head, as they threaten those things with the weapons they possess. We want those things. Most of the world's nations, & their leaders, want to live without fear of a nuke...the North Korean leaders thrive on the fear they instill. They are twisted.


My point is that if there was a choice between invading Iraq or NK I would have probably supported the invasion of NK because they are a clear danger to the world! I think if we invaded NK it wouldn't be a disaster well all war is disaster but we would have a lot of allies on our side. Its going to happen I just hope we aren't the ones who declare war. It would be nice if Japan or our allies would so we don't look like bullies.

#21   2009/06/24 07:30AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
alwaysEJ
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Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.


What I was saying since the bush lover like to twist stuff around to take the heat of him. I don't see how invavding NK would ne perplexing when NK is clearly a danger to the WORLD! And I said if we went in there alone we would get our bums handed to use but other countries would surely have our backs because they no it is a matter of the worlds security! You know soldiers die for Americans freedom rights and safety I feel like our soldiers are dieing in a pointless war right now. When NK has NUCLEAR bombs and there is genocide going on in Africa but like I said those countries havde nothing we want so we just turn our heads. I rather our soldiers not die at all but if they have to go to war I mean shouldn't be for something extreme like we know these people have nuclear bombs they must be stopped versus we think uh maybe these guys have bad stuff come on if you can't see the wrong in that you are blind!


I have been highly critical of Bush. He disappointed me in many ways. I said I have issues with how things were handled regarding Iraq. I just don't think there would've have been any more support from people who opposed the invasion of Iraq for an invasion of North Korea. I don't think we should invade North Korea at all. I think that would be a disaster.

For many years, we didn't know exactly what North Korea was up to b/c they would not allow inspectors to do their job. Part of the reason they continue to do whatever the he11 they want is that they have defied the international community for years & suffered few consequences for it. This is the fault of many U.S. presidents as well as the U.N.

I don't think the statement that 'they don't have anything we want' is totally accurate. They are currently holding freedom & peace over the world's head, as they threaten those things with the weapons they possess. We want those things. Most of the world's nations, & their leaders, want to live without fear of a nuke...the North Korean leaders thrive on the fear they instill. They are twisted.


My point is that if there was a choice between invading Iraq or NK I would have probably supported the invasion of NK because they are a clear danger to the world! I think if we invaded NK it wouldn't be a disaster well all war is disaster but we would have a lot of allies on our side. Its going to happen I just hope we aren't the ones who declare war. It would be nice if Japan or our allies would so we don't look like bullies.



See, I think the clear bully is North Korea. I think at this moment we have reason to declare war on them & we'd be justified. And, I don't think the No. 1 concern of the American president should be the world's current perception of us. Do what's right & best for the American people, period. Who cares what our 'image' w/the world is if Americans are blown to bits. Image would seem a bit trivial then.

#22   2009/06/24 09:03AM
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bigtimesoapfan
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The problem with that is that except for pissibly Cananda and Uk we'd stand alone!! The rest of the world will not lift a finger!! And as usual we would be the Big Bad USA!! So what would that solve? We're already stretched too thin as it is!!

#23   2009/06/24 10:52AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
sarahconnor
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Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.



my point was that bush called all 3 the axis of evil for
a reason. (he knew) - NK hears they are included in this and have brought it up alot. bush already defied the UN by going forth with invading iraq - it was not agreed upon. by doing this, he sparked the paranoia of Kim Jong even more. bush was all for getting rogue leaders and this one was our biggest threat. the biggest threat to our country. even if knowledge of them dates back to clinton or bush senior, it does not matter now. bush had 8 years of presidency to investigate "this" particular rogue leader. he was too fixated on iraq when NK does have WMD. but i guess NK was not a part of his legacy.

i know how long our issues have been going on with Korea. this starts way back, (Korean war) that part i agree with. b/c of the Korean war, we still have soilders stationed at south korea.

well i dunno about that rock paper sissors EJ..sounds like a way bush could make a decision to me..(kidding) - but aside from that - of course he would have never pleased every american since the vast majority of his decisions were not good. however it was b/c of bush's need to follow through with a self declared "legacy" that we were defiant and did what we wanted regardless to what the UN agreed upon. we fought a needless war..that's my opinion. no WMD over there. we did get saddamm - that's a good thing. however NK thinks they are next - they are making some very serious threats after the entire bush aftermath.

i never said we should invade. i actually said i didn't have any ideas - post #14.
this is what i said:

also let it be known that although i'm casting blame to a degree i wish i had some sort idea to resolve this. i don't. i am too much of a hothead to ever *ever* be president. the only thing i could think of is to tell them that if they want to do their testing and come any where near anything considered territory of the US, it will instantly be considered a threat, declaration of war and we will retaliate with the most harsh force possible. i would also advise the UN of this and let North Korea know things can be peaceful IF they choose it. of course that is not the answer but i do hope we figure something out.

anyway that's what i said.

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#24   2009/06/24 10:53AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
JTsahottie
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I don't think it matters anyone's opinion about Invading Iraq vs. North Korea. One has nothing to do with the other. The point is the North Korean leader is a nutcase and he's testing our new president. Which I find interesting because President Obama hasn't made any threats towards the country or (clinched his fists per se) against them. In fact The US this year has pretty much decided to back away from any Nuclear Missle defense. North Korea is trying to bully the US. I don't care who wants to blame past presidents for what's going on. The fact is North Korea started their program more than 20 years ago and they defy not just the US but other countries because they want to. All I care about is if they really are a threat and plan to REALLY do harm that we stand our ground and defend ourselves. If we just sit back and do nothing than we are weak.... plain and simple and our leader will get no respect from me. Should he take action then that's a different story.

#25   2009/06/24 11:07AM
Re: What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
sarahconnor
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote princesschyrstin:
Quote alwaysEJ: I think the North Koreans would find it highly amusing that (some) Americans blame George W. for what's going on in North Korea. North Korea has been a festering issue since the 1950s when the nation rigidly divided along ideological lines. The U.S. involvement in the Korean War remains controversial, & the results of that war haunt us to this day & are likely a large reason no president has launched a serious invasion of that country since. A poster mentioned the might of the North Korean Army; with this in mind, I cannot imagine the criticism Bush would have received had he attempted any type of invasion of the North. I don't think it was a matter of 'rock, paper, scissors' to decide which nation we would invade. I don't agree with all the decisions made regarding Iraq, but the idea that we should've instead invaded North Korea is perplexing. The Bush haters would've been equally as outraged over that. No one would have said 'Oh, good move George - so glad you didn't invade Iraq.' And, had we invaded North Korea, American soliders would likely be dead in greater numbers & Saddam would still be gassing his people & livin it up in his rape rooms. The 'What Ifs' of history can drive you crazy.

I think Clinton made some missteps with North Korea. Does it solve the current problem to hash & rehash those? Not at all.

I don't know that we will ever invade North Korea. I think when & if this all comes to a head, we will be forced to wipe them out via air strikes. The president who authorizes that will have many questions to answer, but he (or she) will have my respect.


What I was saying since the bush lover like to twist stuff around to take the heat of him. I don't see how invavding NK would ne perplexing when NK is clearly a danger to the WORLD! And I said if we went in there alone we would get our bums handed to use but other countries would surely have our backs because they no it is a matter of the worlds security! You know soldiers die for Americans freedom rights and safety I feel like our soldiers are dieing in a pointless war right now. When NK has NUCLEAR bombs and there is genocide going on in Africa but like I said those countries havde nothing we want so we just turn our heads. I rather our soldiers not die at all but if they have to go to war I mean shouldn't be for something extreme like we know these people have nuclear bombs they must be stopped versus we think uh maybe these guys have bad stuff come on if you can't see the wrong in that you are blind!


I have been highly critical of Bush. He disappointed me in many ways. I said I have issues with how things were handled regarding Iraq. I just don't think there would've have been any more support from people who opposed the invasion of Iraq for an invasion of North Korea. I don't think we should invade North Korea at all. I think that would be a disaster.

For many years, we didn't know exactly what North Korea was up to b/c they would not allow inspectors to do their job. Part of the reason they continue to do whatever the he11 they want is that they have defied the international community for years & suffered few consequences for it. This is the fault of many U.S. presidents as well as the U.N.

I don't think the statement that 'they don't have anything we want' is totally accurate. They are currently holding freedom & peace over the world's head, as they threaten those things with the weapons they possess. We want those things. Most of the world's nations, & their leaders, want to live without fear of a nuke...the North Korean leaders thrive on the fear they instill. They are twisted.


My point is that if there was a choice between invading Iraq or NK I would have probably supported the invasion of NK because they are a clear danger to the world! I think if we invaded NK it wouldn't be a disaster well all war is disaster but we would have a lot of allies on our side. Its going to happen I just hope we aren't the ones who declare war. It would be nice if Japan or our allies would so we don't look like bullies.



See, I think the clear bully is North Korea. I think at this moment we have reason to declare war on them & we'd be justified. And, I don't think the No. 1 concern of the American president should be the world's current perception of us. Do what's right & best for the American people, period. Who cares what our 'image' w/the world is if Americans are blown to bits. Image would seem a bit trivial then.


right now they ARE the bully. NK is. b/c of their perceptions of us being a bully. so silly when you come down to it all but it's the truth of it. right now we do not have reason to declare war (yet) but i said if it were me, i would make it clear if anything of theirs "testing or not" comes near my territory it will be considered a declaration of war. i would make it clear that i prefer peace yet will not tolerate threats and if they want war, to keep it up. i would already be in heavy discussion with the UN over this (maybe obama is and it's not made public for a reason - we need heavy backing) - i don't know. but i would never invade..never said i would. of course i could never be president due to extreme ways of handling things like this. iran, iraq? psssh. NK is a real threat that needs to be taken seriously and dealt with accordingly.

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