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What's Up With N. Korea?!?!?
Started by BaileyBaby at 2009/06/23 08:15AMLatest post: 2009/06/25 05:50PM, Views: 583, Replies: 65
BaileyBaby |
What is going on with N. Korea?? Are they really taunting the Western powers to go to war?? Are they just "rattling sabres"?? |
sarahconnor |
Quote BaileyBaby: What is going on with N. Korea?? Are they really taunting the Western powers to go to war?? Are they just "rattling sabres"?? I read that they have missle capabilities of 4000 miles & planned to aim toward Hawaii on July 4th. (Can they reach it?) WTH is going on?? What have you heard?? this is what is worrying me. north korea. they are crazy. yes they are making threats b/c we have been in discussion with south korea. i think they have performed 2 test runs..the first had japan crapping in their pants i'm sure. (i think it went over japan and was unannounced) - they are in violation with the UN sanctions right now b/c of this behavior. i have heard, in theory..one could reach hawaii or alaska. it is speculated that they have half a dozen atomic bombs and are producing enriched uranium. YIKES. this is why i said if north korea fell off the globe tomorrow i would not be sad. they are purposely tyring to be defiant of the U.S. |
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sarahconnor |
Quote BaileyBaby: What is going on with N. Korea?? Are they really taunting the Western powers to go to war?? Are they just "rattling sabres"?? I read that they have missle capabilities of 4000 miles & planned to aim toward Hawaii on July 4th. (Can they reach it?) WTH is going on?? What have you heard?? also i believe that this is a "test run" facing hawaii - this is how it's described. they are a huge threat right now. check out this story - www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/06/23/nkorea.warning/index.html |
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sarahconnor |
also they state this is a backlash of what happened in iraq. alot of good we did by fighting that unnecessary war in iraq (where ZERO weapons of mass destruction were found) - we managed to rile up nations with more power and that are crazy. i don't blame bush for north korea being nuts but i do blame him for this being an issue now. this is exactly why we can't go around taking things into our own hands w/out the approvement of the united nations. we abused our power. our war was with the terrorists. |
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BaileyBaby |
Quote sarahconnor: also they state this is a backlash of what happened in iraq. alot of good we did by fighting that unnecessary war in iraq (where ZERO weapons of mass destruction were found) - we managed to rile up nations with more power and that are crazy. i don't blame bush for north korea being nuts but i do blame him for this being an issue now. this is exactly why we can't go around taking things into our own hands w/out the approvement of the united nations. we abused our power. our war was with the terrorists. read this : from: news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_koreas_nuclear Gen. Walter Sharp, who commands the 28,500 U.S. troops positioned in South Korea, said the North could employ roadside bombs and other guerrilla tactics if fighting breaks out again on the Korean peninsula. The two Koreas technically remain at war because their three-year conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, in 1953. North Korea is believed to have begun boosting its urban, nighttime and special operation capabilities in the wake of the U.S.-led war in Iraq, South Korea's Defense Ministry said. After the U.S. invasion of Iraq, North Korea claimed it would be the next target. With 1.2 million troops, North Korea's army is one of the world's largest. Some 180,000 are special operation forces. Last Wednesday, a North Korean-flagged vessel left the port of Nampo and was being trailed by a U.S. destroyer, a U.S. official said. It's the first ship being monitored under the U.N. sanctions imposed earlier this month following North Korea's defiant underground nuclear test in May. The new resolution seeks to strengthen efforts to stop North Korea from developing its nuclear and missile programs and selling its technology. The Kang Nam, accused of transporting illicit goods in the past, is believed to be carrying banned small arms to Myanmar, a South Korean intelligence official said Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information. However, analysts say a high-seas interception — a move North Korea has said it would consider an act of war — is unlikely. This is frightening..... It is history repeating itself. IMHO, I think the leader of N.Korea is "crackers". Are we going back to fight a war in SE Asia again?? This is so serious.......  People should worry about this instead of Jon & Kate..
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lovesit |
What makes it even more frightening is that they flat out don't care that they are violating sanctions. But really, have they ever? We should have taken care of him a long time ago, at the first hint he was never going to comply. |
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bigtimesoapfan |
Quote sarahconnor: Quote BaileyBaby: What is going on with N. Korea?? Are they really taunting the Western powers to go to war?? Are they just "rattling sabres"?? I read that they have missle capabilities of 4000 miles & planned to aim toward Hawaii on July 4th. (Can they reach it?) WTH is going on?? What have you heard?? this is what is worrying me. north korea. they are crazy. yes they are making threats b/c we have been in discussion with south korea. i think they have performed 2 test runs..the first had japan crapping in their pants i'm sure. (i think it went over japan and was unannounced) - they are in violation with the UN sanctions right now b/c of this behavior. i have heard, in theory..one could reach hawaii or alaska. it is speculated that they have half a dozen atomic bombs and are producing enriched uranium. YIKES. this is why i said if north korea fell off the globe tomorrow i would not be sad. they are purposely tyring to be defiant of the U.S. I TA!!! |
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BaileyBaby |
Quote lovesit: What makes it even more frightening is that they flat out don't care that they are violating sanctions. But really, have they ever? We should have taken care of him a long time ago, at the first hint he was never going to comply. Do the majority of N. Koreans believe they are in the right, or are they just as afraid of their leader as we are? I haven't read that answer anywhere. I don't know what the general population of N. Korea believes. The regime is very careful as to what gets released for general knowledge. When you see the military they look like brain-washed-goons. We, as a free nation, do not know what complete isolation is like... so I wonder if there are any free thinkers there??? If there were I suppose we would never know.... But the audacity to go up against the powers of USA, Japan & Great Britian is suicide for them. Are we going to have another Pearl Harbor?? A sneak-attack?? |
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sarahconnor |
Quote lovesit: What makes it even more frightening is that they flat out don't care that they are violating sanctions. But really, have they ever? We should have taken care of him a long time ago, at the first hint he was never going to comply. Do the majority of N. Koreans believe they are in the right, or are they just as afraid of their leader as we are? I haven't read that answer anywhere. so far what i read was that they respect their leader b/c he shows strength against the US. they are in a closed off compound with no outside communication so this is all they have to listen to - very much like being brainwashed - i am sure this is the reason for closing things off. so they can only be given the information that their leader provides. regardless, i'm sure there are some that think he's nuts - they are just not in a situation to do anything about it. N.K. definietly does not care about violating anything and have even made it clear that any attempts to stop them will be a declaration of war. from this :: www.greenleft.org.au/2009/797/41024 The North Korean regime’s militaristic rhetoric makes it easy for the media to dismiss its leaders as crazed fanatics. But when North Korean officials say attempts to develop nuclear weapons have helped deter a US attack, they’re right. The Bush administration named North Korea in its “axis of evil” list of potential targets after Afghanistan was conquered. A few weeks after the March 2003 US invasion of Iraq, a North Korean official drew the conclusion: “The Iraqi war taught the lesson that ... the security of the nation can be protected only when a country has a physical deterrent force.” |
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sarahconnor |
Quote BaileyBaby: Quote sarahconnor: also they state this is a backlash of what happened in iraq. alot of good we did by fighting that unnecessary war in iraq (where ZERO weapons of mass destruction were found) - we managed to rile up nations with more power and that are crazy. i don't blame bush for north korea being nuts but i do blame him for this being an issue now. this is exactly why we can't go around taking things into our own hands w/out the approvement of the united nations. we abused our power. our war was with the terrorists. read this : from: news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_koreas_nuclear Gen. Walter Sharp, who commands the 28,500 U.S. troops positioned in South Korea, said the North could employ roadside bombs and other guerrilla tactics if fighting breaks out again on the Korean peninsula. The two Koreas technically remain at war because their three-year conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, in 1953. North Korea is believed to have begun boosting its urban, nighttime and special operation capabilities in the wake of the U.S.-led war in Iraq, South Korea's Defense Ministry said. After the U.S. invasion of Iraq, North Korea claimed it would be the next target. With 1.2 million troops, North Korea's army is one of the world's largest. Some 180,000 are special operation forces. Last Wednesday, a North Korean-flagged vessel left the port of Nampo and was being trailed by a U.S. destroyer, a U.S. official said. It's the first ship being monitored under the U.N. sanctions imposed earlier this month following North Korea's defiant underground nuclear test in May. The new resolution seeks to strengthen efforts to stop North Korea from developing its nuclear and missile programs and selling its technology. The Kang Nam, accused of transporting illicit goods in the past, is believed to be carrying banned small arms to Myanmar, a South Korean intelligence official said Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information. However, analysts say a high-seas interception — a move North Korea has said it would consider an act of war — is unlikely. This is frightening..... It is history repeating itself. IMHO, I think the leader of N.Korea is "crackers". Are we going back to fight a war in SE Asia again?? This is so serious....... People should worry about this instead of Jon & Kate.. oh yes, there's no question he's crackers!! omg. all of asia has a lot to fear with good reason. i really don't know what's going to happen just yet. this is my worry of world war III b/c this guy does not care. he can actually do damage to us AND he's made threats. all i know is that i would hope we are heavily enganging the UN in discussion and personally i feel some of that discussin should be secret b/c this guy is... nuts. (for lack of better word) - this is something i do agree with moving on in some form or another b/c direct threats are being made to us, reckless behavior in defying the UN with test runs of missiles as well as them having the arms to back it up. this makes for a bad concoction. this is why iran is the least of my worries. i hate what is going on over there but they are not half as much of a threat to us as north korea. when it comes to iran, i feel it's best to watch and wait at this point. (i do agree with strong words against what is going on tho) as for war, we really would not be at war with asia..most of asia dislikes north korea (china is their biggest ally) -basically anyone communist is. they don't get along with south korea *at all* nor japan. from : www.cfr.org/publication/13593/ In May 2008, North Korea handed over around 18,000 pages of documents to the United States detailing production records of its nuclear programs. In June, Pyongyang also handed over the much-awaited declaration as agreed in the Six-Party Talks after a six-month delay and imploded the cooling tower (LAT/video) of the Yongbyon nuclear plant. The destruction of the tower was a largely symbolic gesture, writes Jon Wolfsthal, senior fellow at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "None of the steps North Korea has taken thus far are irreversible, but the destruction of this tower makes it harder to reconstitute their plutonium program," he writes. Nonetheless, the Bush administration immediately responded to Pyongyang's gestures by taking North Korea off the Trading with the Enemy Act and notifying Congress of its intention to remove North Korea from the State Sponsors of Terrorism list in the next forty-five days. But when Washington failed to take Pyongyang off the terrorism list after the lapse of the period, saying it hadn't suitably verified records handed over by North Korea, Pyongyang barred all international inspectors from its Yongbyon site and threatened to restart the reactor. In October 2008, North Korea agreed to some verification measures and the United States took it off the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. Yet critics of the declaration say the report, which details plutonium-based materials and facilities, falls short on three important counts: It does not include details of suspected uranium enrichment; It does not address Pyongyang's proliferation activities to countries like Syria and Libya; It fails to give an account of the nuclear weapons already produced. U.S. resistance to bilateral negotiations. For much of the Bush administration’s tenure, Washington resisted holding one-on-one talks with Pyongyang, preferring the Six-Party Talks so that any compromises with the Kim regime were framed as part of multilateral negotiations. Yet North Korea repeatedly demanded direct talks as a condition for stopping its nuclear program. Washington’s envoy did speak directly with Pyongyang’s within the context of the talks, but one-on-one meetings did not occur until 2007, first in Berlin and then in New York. In June 2007, Hill made a surprise visit to Pyongyang to push forward the February deal, finalizing a reversal in U.S. stance on dealing directly with North Korea. |
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