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Gov't sponsored Health Care

Started by cats meow at 2009/06/15 09:49AM
Latest post: 2009/08/03 06:34PM, Views: 1997, Replies: 155
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#101   2009/08/03 03:08PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
cats meow
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does anyone know what kind of health care the people have that are voting on this issue? thanks

#102   2009/08/03 03:23PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
Eppy
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A news report I heard about an hour ago says those making less than 250,000.00 will not have their taxes raised. Who to believe? Reactionaries won't believe it though.

#103   2009/08/03 04:13PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
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I cited an article that quotes two of Obama's top advisors who were on TV this weekend & both refused to say that Obama would not, under any circumstances, raise middle class taxes. They basically said all options are on the table. I don't know if he will or not, but if health care is overhauled the way he wants it to be, the money has to come from somewhere. The statements of his advisors may be influenced by the news (article below) that federal tax revenues have seen the biggest drop since 1932. There is no money to pay for what he's proposing. Taking nearly everything the wealthy in this country have will not cover the costs. He will simply redefine 'wealthy' & 'middle class.' Suddenly if you make over $100,000 you'll be wealthy & not 'middle class,' & be slapped with massive tax increases.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plummeting_taxes

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#104   2009/08/03 06:01PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
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Quote alwaysEJ: I cited an article that quotes two of Obama's top advisors who were on TV this weekend & both refused to say that Obama would not, under any circumstances, raise middle class taxes. They basically said all options are on the table. I don't know if he will or not, but if health care is overhauled the way he wants it to be, the money has to come from somewhere. The statements of his advisors may be influenced by the news (article below) that federal tax revenues have seen the biggest drop since 1932. There is no money to pay for what he's proposing. Taking nearly everything the wealthy in this country have will not cover the costs. He will simply redefine 'wealthy' & 'middle class.' Suddenly if you make over $100,000 you'll be wealthy & not 'middle class,' & be slapped with massive tax increases.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plummeting_taxes


the link you provided has NO mention of any Obama advisor mentioning a possible raise in middle class taxes. what you cited was a fox news talking point. (imagine that) what the article is talking about though is nothing new - it's saying the government is spending more than it's taking in - welcome to 1983! the government will simply borrow more even if it means borrowing from the fed which will simply print more money. social security is screwed and we've known this for some time. the republicans wanted to shift the trust fund out of washington's hands and into wall Street's hands - something which anyone with half a brain would realize as stupid today. the problem is NEITHER SIDE is willing to tell the "senior citizen" voters they can't fund social security as it is today because that's political suicide. perhaps it'd work if the government wasn't already wasting trillions of dollars invading third world nations and bailing out the billionaires on wall street.

as for healthcare, in the US we already spend far more per person than any other nation yet we do not get as much bang for the buck as those nations with a single-provider health system. there's two reasons for this - one if everyone was under the same system, the system could dictate terms on a more beneficial scale for its members (i.e. you're buying in bulk so you get a discount) - and the second is it would remove the profit motive from healthcare. HMO's and other health insurance companies waste a great deal of money on administration costs (i.e. executive salaries, board meetings in barbados, corporate jets, etc).

i do agree with some conservatives who say we need tort reform to limit healthcare-related lawsuits and this would also happen under a single-payer system (ever try to sue the government?). this is a case where the government could actually save us money by taking on healthcare spending. better than any "stimulus" every could.

#105   2009/08/03 06:14PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
alwaysEJ
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finance.yahoo.com/news/2-Obama-officials-No-
apf-2491158742.html?x=0&.v=7

This is the link I referred to when pointing to Obama's peeps & what they said on the Sunday talk shows this past weekend. I originally posted it a page back.

The link to the article above is about falling tax revenues, & I was citing that as possibly a reason Obama won't rule out raising middle class taxes.

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#106   2009/08/03 06:34PM
Re: Gov't sponsored Health Care
alwaysEJ
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I don't see how this article:

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plummeting_taxes


is a Fox News talking point.

The numbers could hardly be more stark: Tax receipts are on pace to drop 18 percent this year, the biggest single-year decline since the Great Depression, while the federal deficit balloons to a record $1.8 trillion.
Other figures in an Associated Press analysis underscore the recession's impact: Individual income tax receipts are down 22 percent from a year ago. Corporate income taxes are down 57 percent. Social Security tax receipts could drop for only the second time since 1940, and Medicare taxes are on pace to drop for only the third time ever.

The last time the government's revenues were this bleak, the year was 1932 in the midst of the Depression.



The feds tax dollars are shrinking. That's just numbers. I didn't even say 'Its all Obama's fault,' I just offered this as a reason they might consider raising taxes, even for those making less than $250,000.

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