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Quote alwaysEJ: It is a giant to leap to assume that b/c I responded to a post about the death penalty, in another thread, that I was on some rampage aginst the child of another poster. Grits was talking about the death penalty, & on her list of those she felt should be considered were murderers, rapists, & pedophiles. I repeated that list in my response to her. It was a generic statement. People make statements about groups all the time - I have alcoholics in my family, but I don't lash out at posters who mention alcoholics. I have mentioned my alcholic family members before on this board, but I would never assume everyone posting has read everything I've posted.

I actually went back to read the personal stories in that thread later when I saw that lovesit had posted. I enjoy her posts. Otherwise, I don't always read, & certainly don't catalogue for future reference, everything everyone posts. I do not care to get into personal issues, & as lovesit noticed I didn't comment on them in that thread. I do however feel I have the right to discuss my thoughts on the death penalty without being told to 'STFU.'

Quote cats meow:

yes it was released, do you think this was not checked out before he was able to run? every one knew about arnold immediately, i have to say, i cannot debate with you and i know you know why

Quote Plot-Twister:

What is, is that you think that everyone else is so stupid not to see you goading all of the damn time. You told me that you didn't remember anything. Fine. Again, most people would apologize for being unintentionally offensive. But now you say you recall some of the conversation? Fine. You recall enough to put words in my mouth on the subject.

I don't care what you say. Just don't say it about my family or my kid. You talk about how my kid deserves to die, then I tell you to stfu.

Quote alwaysEJ: Hey lovesit, I missed this in all the posts today -

the day EJ initiates the rudeness will be the day I call her out. The reason you don't care about her bashing the left is because you do not get called names from her, nor attacked from her. Her style is to come on, cite her opinion, refernce it, and move on. She rarely makes personal refernces, which is why she did not comment on our personal stories. She is the only one, on all sides, who gives references for her beliefs. They may be strong, but she has never started name calling that I have seen.

Thanks. I have enjoyed your thoughts in this thread, & others.

Quote sarahconnor:

hahahahaha as if she really knows you that well.

Quote alwaysEJ:

She wasn't writing my biography, only commenting on my posts on this board. Can lovesit & I not engage in the 'you're the best poster,' No, No...you're the best poster...' banter? My goodness all I said was 'Thank You.'

Quote alwaysEJ:

Yes, unintentionally. That is the key. All I ask is that I be given the benefit of the doubt b/c I was NOT seeking to hurt your feelings. Yes we disagree on the death penalty & everything else & I like to argue about issues, but I would not post on this board to get kicks out of taking aim at other posters' children.

Quote Plot-Twister:

Here is the thing though EJ. While I might have been able to write it off origninally as unintentinal, I no longer can because it took you this long to say that it was untintentional. So, after I come on looking for clarification (granted, I was loaded for bear) you still chose to argue with me over my own perception, I had no other recourse than to assume that you were being intentional....no apology or clarification = intent on my part.

The thing is, I used to actually enjoy conversations with you. Now, I just don't understand how an intelligent woman can be so cold. I think you like to make your veiled superior comments and digs and let the rest of us fester. You know, I would rather know the monster I am dealing with (I am right up front in everything) than to have to sift through a pile of bulls*it citations and crap just to figure out an OPINION. An opinion does not have to be cited. As if that makes you better than anyone else.

I personally don't care what you or most people here think of me any longer....for a long time this cite kept me sane, now, it drives me further into insanity.

Quote Plot-Twister:

I was trying to read this entire thread before I responded, but I just cannot. This is asinine! To blame the victims of Katrina on the parents! That is just cruel! To say that it is the parents fault that their kids died or that they died is insensitive, and misguided and it shows such a lack of compassion that I do not understand.

First, the people who were taken by Katrina were living in the bayous below sea level. We have KNOWN for ages that these levees would not hold for a hurricane of Katrina's magnitude, but we don't care. Hell, it was in the bayous. No one gives a crap about them anyway right? Perhaps it was the parent's fault for choosing to live there? Yeah, damn them for giving their family a HOME! Is it better now that there are homeless families roaming around with nowhere to go? Either way, people who feel this way win. They can *itch and moan about parents living in less than ideal conditions, being poor and not having a car to evacuate, or they can blame them for not having a home at all.

And are you really serious? You think that Katrina is not an example of how we (america) failed? OMG these people did not die and give their lives over the hurricane, they lost it over the levees. Yes, we knew. But the fact that we knew does not outweigh the fact that people could not afford to leave. So you all can sit there in your ivory towers and criticize the poor people who lived there, and thank your lucky stars you have enough money or came from enough money to actually evacuate when people tell you to. These people for the most part had no transportation with which to evacuate. And they survived the hurricane! They waited and waited and waited for FEMA (whose JOB it is) to help them the same way they have with hurricanes in FL. Hell, Sean Penn was down there saving people and Brownie had no idea things were this bad? GMAFB. I think Kanye West got this one right. Bush don't like black people and this was his form of genocide. Cause Bush didn't like poor people either.

As for North Korea PUH LEEZ! We called them part of the axis of evil and did NOTHING! Instead, we fight a war that is not ours to fight. Looking and looking for WMD"S that are "certain to be there" and turn our heads to the fact that N Korea is blatently saying "we have them". Oh, that is smart of us. Stupid. It is all just stupid.

Further, to call sarahconnor unamerican???? Seriously???? That is whack! American is having the capactity to have an opinion. American is having the RIGHT to discuss your opinion. American is being able to disagree with the government. If you (non specific) want to call her unamerican then go get a burka and go live somewhere else where there is not that freedom.

And to be sooooooo full of ourselves as to say that we are number one. Wow! Narcisstic much? Everyone mostly thinkis that their country is the best. Why do we have to put other countries down to feel better about ourselves? Why can we have nuclear power, but no one else can? Is there a test out there that country leaders have to take in order to have nukes? sure Lil Kim might be crazy. But some would argue (many would actually) that Bush was pretty damn crazy too.

I cannot do this much longer. The pure hate on here and lack of compassion and one sided thinking is killing my faith in fellow man. Thank goodness that the people I meet in real life aren't this narrow minded.

Quote alwaysEJ: All this righteous indignation. We need some violins.

Why so much thought into my intentions, anyway? I mean I have a day job & am planning a wedding... I don't put near the strategy into my posts as you all apparently think I do. I would never assume you thought I was intentionally posting about the death penalty (which I have done numerous times before) to get at you on a personal level.

I am not getting into the citations thing...I mean if someone doesn't cite something, they are lambasted, & if they do, they are mocked. I say 'thank you' to a poster who complements me, & that is somehow strategic.

You tell me to STFU, tell me I heartless, evil, a pretty pathetic person, etc. & then proclaim yourselves the better people b/c you don't judge OK. I don't come here for personal affirmation. I do enjoy posting with certain other posters, & I cannot even state that without having my intentions scrutinized. I happen to post with lovesit on the Days board, where she lambasts my EJ, but she never gets nasty over there either. She & cats are two that have never called me names or mocked me (cats & I almost always disagree).

So I will carry on with them, will I feel so moved.

Quote alwaysEJ: I was never comparing nuclear weapons to Katrina...since one is man made & one is a NATURAL disaster.

Why did you mention Katrina? As I said, I assumed you mentioned it as an example of failure - America failing her own people. In a post about nuclear weapons & America policing the world, I can only assume you mention Katrina to point out that we can't even take care of our own, so why do we feel the need to police the world. I think this is flawed logic.

What are your 'real' points? That Iran should be allowed to acquire a nuke? That North Korea is led by an idiot? That I am mean & lovesit can't understand your posts?

Since we're all taking the rude, name-calling route, let me say that after reading some of your personal story elsewhere on the board & reading your responses to lovesit, who is nothing but considerate & patient with your posts, I do not care if you think I am heartless. I guess we all have our own definitions of what constitutes 'heartless.'

Quote Plot-Twister:


Now what, you are trying on the victim role? doesn't suit you well. Now, I need violins because I take offense to you saying that my kid should be killed when he is older. Not now, because he is a kid, but when he is older. And yes, I think you do put some thought into what you post (what are you trying on your "stupid" cap? Doesn't look good on you) You know damn well what you write and you damn well know the feelings that are going to arise because of it.

It kills me now though that you are trying to twist everything around and make yourself the martyr because I decided enough was enough of your crap. You put words into my mouth and they were wrong. You, the ever so rightous google queen. I am surprised that you don't keep a file for future use and call it a blog somewhere out there.

You ask why I put thought into your intentions? Well, lol, you kinda asked me to didn't you? A few posts ago where you finally say that your comment was unintentional. If you really felt that way, wouldn't you have said it right up front?

I never said I was better than you, thank you for noticing though. I said that I am the devil you know. I am upfront and honest. If I hurt someone unintentionally, you bet your bippy that I would be apologizing. Not you though....nooooooo.

all hail Queen Anna! Her daddy is a big fat lawyer and that is where she gets all of her information that is not on google.