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Ethnic Slurs......

Started by BaileyBaby at 2009/06/09 07:35AM
Latest post: 2009/07/22 05:55PM, Views: 532, Replies: 36
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#11   2009/06/09 03:40PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
wannazach
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This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...

#12   2009/06/09 04:24PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
BaileyBaby
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Quote wannazach: This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...










Hey Wanna... There really is no bad or worse slurs. It doesn't have to be racial to be a slur. I have a 1/2 brother & sister who were straight A students. Both of them had red hair that leaned toward orange. They were teased unmercifly in elementary school. They are a lot younger than me & boy did I get pizzed off at the kids who hurt them.... They say "sticks & stones" but words DO hurt!

#13   2009/06/09 07:29PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
raving
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Quote BaileyBaby:
Quote wannazach: This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...










Hey Wanna... There really is no bad or worse slurs. It doesn't have to be racial to be a slur. I have a 1/2 brother & sister who were straight A students. Both of them had red hair that leaned toward orange. They were teased unmercifly in elementary school. They are a lot younger than me & boy did I get pizzed off at the kids who hurt them.... They say "sticks & stones" but words DO hurt!


i have news for both of you....kids still tease the reds...the only people who ever compliment my daughters red hair are adults......kids still think its different in a bad way......they call her orange head...even though she is way auburn.......but you know what....I think she takes it a lot better than I would have.....she thinks it makes her who she is....and thats cool with me!...kids are just mean sometimes....you know being born a red head only occurs once in every 10,000 births? thats a cool thing to say about yourself!

#14   2009/06/10 11:00AM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Willow Girl ...
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No comment , there are to many .

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#15   2009/06/10 11:31AM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
BaileyBaby
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Quote raving:
Quote BaileyBaby:
Quote wannazach: This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...










Hey Wanna... There really is no bad or worse slurs. It doesn't have to be racial to be a slur. I have a 1/2 brother & sister who were straight A students. Both of them had red hair that leaned toward orange. They were teased unmercifly in elementary school. They are a lot younger than me & boy did I get pizzed off at the kids who hurt them.... They say "sticks & stones" but words DO hurt!


i have news for both of you....kids still tease the reds...the only people who ever compliment my daughters red hair are adults......kids still think its different in a bad way......they call her orange head...even though she is way auburn.......but you know what....I think she takes it a lot better than I would have.....she thinks it makes her who she is....and thats cool with me!...kids are just mean sometimes....you know being born a red head only occurs once in every 10,000 births? thats a cool thing to say about yourself!












Tell her this from me...... When she gets to be middle age, unlike most of the women who have red/maroon hair at that age, at least hers will be natural. Everyone else will envy her.... Won't that be just-deserts!!!!!

A Natural Red Head is a select few ........

#16   2009/07/20 02:10PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
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Quote lovesit:
Quote cats meow: it really never bothered but it affected my parents, especially my dad, dumb pollack, and all the stupid jokes when we got a polish pope, i just chalked it up to ignorant people, anyone one who uses slurs is ignorant in my opinion


Embarrssing story...
my grandfather is a huge racist, so I should have known...BUT, he would tell me stories of back in the war he knew a POllack. He never used the term derogatorily? in front of me though. So, years later, at my last job, I found out, hile at lunch with 5 of my co-workers, that my boss was from Poland (his parents were anyways). So, in front of everybody, I said "I've never met a Pollack before!" I honestly had no idea it was a derogatory term!

Thank God he did not take offense, especially after I explained the situation. I have never felt so terrible in my life. Even before that incident, though, racial slurs have always irked me, and I think it is b/c of my grandfather. I love him with all my heart, but that man...anyways, I have never let him or anyone around me say anything racially derogatory and ge away with it, though.
I am white, and no one ever gets away with the n word, the cracker comments, the "pollack" comments, or anything like that. I don't listen to any new rap music, b/c that is all they know how to sing now. I used to love it about ten years ago.

Very informative. Until I read this, I didn't know Pollock was racist. I really thought that was what someone from Poland was called.

#17   2009/07/20 02:37PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
cats meow
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being 100% polish, i think it is all in the tone, this is kind of funny, i am always taken for native american, how strange is that?

#18   2009/07/20 03:46PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
OspreyGirl
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Quote wannazach: This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...


So, are you offended when someone calls or called red heads like you a "ginger?"

My husband still laughs at me to this day and I never should have told him this, but I didn't know that Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls was called that because of her red hair...

I'm like, I'm not English or whatever, how am I suppose to know that? I've met people with red hair before and after the Spice Girls and they've never told me 'Yo Osprey, just call me ginger."

Just checking...

#19   2009/07/20 04:52PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
shini149
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Quote OspreyGirl:
Quote wannazach: This is not really an ethnic slur and maybe a little petty but it sure made my life hell as a child. I was the little red headed kid and in those days red heads where the center of teasing and bad jokes all the time. When I was little I can remember crying on the school bus while the others were singing a song "I'd rather be dead than red on the head". It made me feel very alone and ugly. That could be because I was alone. I was the only red head in the entire school. It is funny that now so many people are dying their hair to get it red when not so long ago it was treated like the plague. Ok now lets get back to the really bad stuff...


So, are you offended when someone calls or called red heads like you a "ginger?"

My husband still laughs at me to this day and I never should have told him this, but I didn't know that Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls was called that because of her red hair...

I'm like, I'm not English or whatever, how am I suppose to know that? I've met people with red hair before and after the Spice Girls and they've never told me 'Yo Osprey, just call me ginger."

Just checking...


In AU Ginger is quite a common name for a redhead it refers not only to the colour of their hair but also their supposedly fiery nature another word for redheads is Ranga as in Orangutan.
Older australians will call a redhead Bluey coz it's opposite of red (dont ask me I never really got it either

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#20   2009/07/20 08:29PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Blue 501
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I know that racial or ethnic slurs can really hurt. I get that. But the other types of teasing, like b/c you have red hair, are kind of like the teasing I got when I was little because of my name (Frances Elizabeth_______, nickname Betsy). I got called "Betsy Wetsy", "Frances the Talking Mule", "Bang goes old Betsy" & anything that would get a rise out of me. And they knew it would, that I would be fighting mad. In retrospect, I think just ignoring them would have taken the wind out of their sails the quickest.

#21   2009/07/20 08:33PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Blue 501
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Quote sandi314:
Quote lovesit:
Quote cats meow: it really never bothered but it affected my parents, especially my dad, dumb pollack, and all the stupid jokes when we got a polish pope, i just chalked it up to ignorant people, anyone one who uses slurs is ignorant in my opinion


Embarrssing story...
my grandfather is a huge racist, so I should have known...BUT, he would tell me stories of back in the war he knew a POllack. He never used the term derogatorily? in front of me though. So, years later, at my last job, I found out, hile at lunch with 5 of my co-workers, that my boss was from Poland (his parents were anyways). So, in front of everybody, I said "I've never met a Pollack before!" I honestly had no idea it was a derogatory term!

Thank God he did not take offense, especially after I explained the situation. I have never felt so terrible in my life. Even before that incident, though, racial slurs have always irked me, and I think it is b/c of my grandfather. I love him with all my heart, but that man...anyways, I have never let him or anyone around me say anything racially derogatory and ge away with it, though.
I am white, and no one ever gets away with the n word, the cracker comments, the "pollack" comments, or anything like that. I don't listen to any new rap music, b/c that is all they know how to sing now. I used to love it about ten years ago.

Very informative. Until I read this, I didn't know Pollock was racist. I really thought that was what someone from Poland was called.


Whoever said its all in the tone was probably right. My daughter just "straightened" me out for referring to her friend as "Oriental". I had absolutely no idea that was now considered racist & certainly meant no insult. My child says "Asian" is correct now.

#22   2009/07/20 11:01PM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
cardgirl
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Well, this is not exactly an "ethnic" slur but I am differentlyabled or disabled. Which always confused me. One because we are all differently abled. And two just what exactly does disabled mean.. when a car is disabled it means it can't move, I can move, and I certainly am not a car. Does it mean I am not able to do things... I suppose I am not able to do somethings... like I can't run, but I can't speak Chinese either. So just exactly how am I disabled? Why does there even have to be a word to describe my lot in life? I am just a person... like the rest of people on the planet. I just do things differently.

Just because I use a wheelchair and others don't doesn't make me less or more able than others. I know a lot of people who can walk and run and whole lot of other things, but they are not nearly as smart as I am. Does that make them more stupid than me? NO. It probably just makes me more conceited when it comes to my brains. And by the way, why do people always think that just because I am in a wheelchair, I am mentally challenged? And then why are they dumb enough to think because I am mentally challenged, that I will not understand when they call me retard?

Now I know that this is a very sensitive subject, and it makes people really uncomfortable especially when they are in the presence of a person who is different than they are especially people who are disabled. Trust me, I have had enough people stare, look away or just plain ignore me, just to avoid acknowledging that I am disabled and they are uncomfortable about it.

But people say and do things that are hurtful to disabled people everyday whether they intend to or not. But when it is obviously intentional, it is way more degrading. My point is this, we are all different, and my experience with being called hurtful names because of something I could not or did not choose, has nothing to do with my ethnicity, gender, or sexual orientation. It has everything to do with why we all tend to judge other, or choose to hate them because of what they look like, or how they act, instead of trying to see them for who they are on the inside. I am sure if we all took the time to see with our hearts and not our eyes, well, there would probably be less words thrown around to describe others... who we might just like if we saw their hearts with ours. Ignorance ends with education... but only when a person is open to learning can the education start.

By the way, I hate the word retard...it is way over used, it's like the word gay... that is so retarded. He is so retarded. I also do not like words like whack job, or loony or other words that are used to describe mentally ill or challenged people. Oh, and crip, gimp, and peg leg are not all right either.

It's really kind of funny now that I think about it, but most of the people I come across daily are more likely to call a black person the n word or some other person of a different ethnic background something in poor taste before they call me crip or gimp or retard.... is that because I am more special than they are or because they feel sorry for me and no respect for them?

#23   2009/07/21 04:14AM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Oreo123
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Ethnic slurs are learned racism. Challanged individuals
- whether physical or mental - receive have been labeled with derogatory nametags until recently.
When a young girl my next door neighbors had a new baby arrive. She had Downs Syndrome. Mary (ficticious name) grew up with all the love and priviledges her siblings enjoyed and shared friendships with the other kids. There was never any cruel name calling or exclusion from games and playtime. Mary grew up more fortunate than other children with this affliction.
As an adult with young children of my own visiting my parents my son, age 6 made a comment that startled me into action. He said Mary was "retarded". Just as he was saying this the sound of beautiful music was coming through their windows. I knew the source. Taking him by the hand I rang the neighbor's bell. We were politely and warmly asked inside where Mary was playing the piano. That's right. She was taught just as her siblings were and, in fact, was more musically inclinded than they. My son just stood there silent. Once outside I asked him if he could play the piano like Mary. He sheepishly said, "No". I told him he must be retarded then. Never again untilthis day as a grown man has he ever used that word again. I am proud to say that from that day forward he has always helped those less fortunate and found a talent in people no matter what their God given challenges are.
The ignorance of man towards humanity is not due to uneducated people. Many educated people are as capable of inhumanity as those that do not have degrees from higher education. True story. An African AMerican male with a law degree from a ivy league university took a leave of absence from his 9 figure job to work at a white bread country club as a waiter for one summer. His experiene was written in a book and talked about in the media for some time. You can imagine the stories of racism he told! The club members, all wealthy educated members of the upper class proved themselves ignorant.
The best lessons we can learn in life is to love one another as we love ourselves. The best lessons we can teach our children is to accept our shortcomings but never to accept our ability to hate.

#24   2009/07/21 05:38AM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Blue 501
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The HEART should be "educated" too. People should teach their children not to be cruel to others. Showing the child how beautifully the Down's Syndrome child could play the piano was a lovely example.

#25   2009/07/21 05:54AM
Re: Ethnic Slurs......
Oreo123
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My sibling married into a family that is as racist as they come. Dinner at their house was avoided for the jokes made about others..always about race or ethnic background. Still inevitably with hopes that it would cease my children and I were subjected to it. Years and years went by. One day my children - speaking about race - said to me that the best lesson I EVER taught them was never to laugh at those jokes. Children DO LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE AND THEY ARE WATCHING FROM THE CRADLE!!!You can preach all you want but it is your actions or reactions that speak to them.

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