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Lovesit - we are all individuals. That is what makes us unique. Yes China has individuals. Japan has individuals. Russia has individuals. What gives us our unique bonding point is that we are American. I am not discounting that at all. I am saying that we are free. Our military has fought so we can be free. If an individual in China spoke against their country on a message board...can you imagine? The behead people because of dog food.

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Thought about something else...in regard to the discussion of 'In God We Trust' on the money, etc. We are not a Christian nation in the sense that we have no national religion. No one is going to poke you on Sunday morning & make sure you're up for church. If you want to go, great. If you don't, that's great too...that's freedom of religion.

However, if you read some of our founding documents, in particular the Declaration of Independence, you read this:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

One thing that is unique about America is that our rights - our rights to life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness - were considered by our founders to be unalienable not b/c the founders said so, but b/c we are endowed by our Creator with these rights. It is not the place of any government to take these rights away for any reason b/c they are God-given, not bestowed by men on a whim & then yanked away. Our founders had no wish to force anyone to acknowledge or worship God as Creator, however it was their fervent desire that every American enjoy the rights that were theirs - not b/c they were American, but b/c they were God's creation. That is part of the underlying philosophy behind the idea of spreading democracy.

George W. once said - "Freedom isn't America's gift to the world.

It's the Almighty God's gift to each man and woman in this world."

Freedom isn't something America invented. While W's statement can lead to disastrous foreign policy (it has many times in our nations' past), it is something many genuinely believe...that all men desire the freedom to live, work, & worship (or not worship) as they please. As they say, freedom isn't free & we have lost countless Americans in attempts to 'spread freedom & democracy.' It is a noble ambition, & one that has threaded American foreign policy for years & years.

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"Our creator" is deliberatly vague. Your creator may be god, while another's is evolution, another is reincarnation, another is the speghetti monster. "our Cretor" is not a specific person or entity and it was stated that way to cover all beliefs.

i am confused, what does this have to do with the reporting on fox news, what happened??

It was about how Obama said last week that we are not a christian nation I think it starts on the other page.

Creator, Higher Power, Diety, or that Spaghetti guy (I'm not familiar with that one) can be referred to as "God" if one so wishes. In God we Trust was not ascribed to be the general feeling of the citizenry of this country nor was it meant to assign any one religious belief system , but instead it refers to the belief of the signatories' and their fervant hope for guidance as they pondered the wording and meaning and the law of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Each citizen is therefore 'free' to pursue his/her own spiritual guidance as it pertains to their own understanding. If one takes offense if the wording "In God We Trust" in not attached to every coin, etc. we should remember that God is not soley a Christian Diety. He can be whatever provides comfort , solice and guidance in our lives. We should be proud that we have that right and not nitpick who is more right than the others. We're all in this together folks!!

How is this fair and balanced for anyone:

An angry alleged white supremicist (still too early for facts) shoots down a guard at the Holocaust meuseum. Every news station runs it.

A Muslim Extemist guns down two military recruits in front of the recruiting office, says afterwards says he is a hero, and no one knows about it?????????

What happened to the days where the news media's sole purpose was to be the "watch dog" of the gov and our society? When did they start getting the right to pick and choose what and who to report about???? What, b/c its safer to report about a white supremicist than Islamic extremists? Thats a bunch of crap. All of it.