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Fox News fair and balanced
Started by cats meow at 2009/06/05 03:09AMLatest post: 2009/07/13 05:51PM, Views: 1297, Replies: 119
#11
2009/06/05 04:49PM
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wannazach |
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#12
2009/06/05 04:52PM
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raving |
Quote Eppy: Quote bigtimesoapfan: I watch other news channels I just find that those are biased! all you hear is Democrats good and Republicans bad, that is untrue both sides have good and bad! How often do you hear whats really going on, all we hear is how wonderful our president is! he has wasted more $$ while he's been in office than other presidents behind him! He is selling out our nation IMO and when everyone wakes up it'll be too late! I hope I'm wrong but I don't trust him! It's a gut feeling! People can white wash it any way they want but facts are facts and covering them up doesn't help!! That's not all I hear. Just how is he selling out? We woke up from the Bush administration and it was ----- that close to being too late. Cheney running around justifying torture while George Bush runs and hides in the bushes.  sorry..but ...LOL to your last line eppy!!! that cracked me up...well the mental picture it gave me did!...ok carry on!
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#13
2009/06/06 04:05AM
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cats meow |
can someone please tell me what rubbing on me is? i have no idea what that means, thank you |
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2009/06/06 05:14AM
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cats meow |
Quote bigtimesoapfan: I think it's a sad day in this country when our president has the balls to go to other countries and apoligize for us Americans like when he spoke in France and called us Arrogant. Hello was he kdding Telling France that we are arrogant! Thats like calling thew kettle black(IMO) Give me a break! If it wasn't for the United States, France and all the rest would be under Nazi control! They should still be kissing our arses! or him doing the speech inside a church recetly and having them cover up the word Christ! Hello it's a church if you don't like it shoot your stupid speech elsewhere!! Fox news is the only real news! the others are a joke! why don't you read this??? Media conservatives divided in reactions to Obama's Cairo address mediamatters.org/items/200906050031 Media conservatives have been divided in their responses to President Obama's June 4 address at Cairo University. Some prominent media conservatives, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Karl Rove, have harshly criticized the speech. However, several media conservatives offered praise for Obama's address, while conservative author David Horowitz went as far as to issue a warning: "Conservatives will make a great mistake if they fail to see this speech for what it was, and treat it as another round in the partisan food fight." Limbaugh -- whose importance to the Republican Party and the conservative movement GOP leaders have repeatedly emphasized -- stated on the June 4 edition of his radio show that in his speech, Obama was calling for a "world order" of "socialism" and "fascism." Limbaugh also said that Obama was "offering a foundational reasoning for the redistribution of wealth" and "a call for the end of sovereignty." Similarly, on the June 4 edition of his Fox News show, Hannity claimed that Obama "decided to use his time on foreign soil to point the finger directly at America for many of the world's problems." He went on to state: "[T]hat is our headline tonight: 'Blaming America First.'" In addition, as the blog Think Progress noted, on the June 4 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, Fox News contributor Karl Rove said, "[O]n the important parts of the speech, that is to say understanding the nature of the U.S. relationship with the Middle East, I would give him a D minus." In judging Obama's "comments about extremism and terrorism," Rove added: "I would give him a C minus on them." He also said that he would give Obama "sort of a B minus or maybe a B" on "the opening" of the speech. By contrast, several conservatives in the media approved of the speech: * In a June 5 Salon.com column, also published at his FrontPageMag.com website, Horowitz wrote: Conservatives will make a great mistake if they fail to see this speech for what it was, and treat it as another round in the partisan food fight. It was not an appeasement of our enemies. It was a forthright statement by an American leader in a Muslim capital explaining why America is in fact the global leader in those battles that matter most to people everywhere: freedom, equality, and peace. As conservatives we have many quarrels with the Obama administration -- and we should have. But this speech is not one of them. * In a June 4 post on the blog Hot Air titled "Obama's Cairo speech: Surprisingly good," Ed Morrissey stated that the speech was "a much better effort than I'd feared." He also praised Obama for "a not-so-subtle jab at the practice of various Arab and Muslim states to use the Palestinian issue to whip up anti-Israel sentiment for their own domestic purposes," which he called "a little surprising - and refreshing." * In a June 4 Commentarymagazine.com column, Max Boot wrote: Having just read Obama's Cairo speech, my reaction is: Not bad. It could have been better. But it also could have been a lot worse [...] I realize that the Obama speech isn't going to satisfy those (like me) who once thrilled to Bush's unapologetic pro-democracy rhetoric but, for all of Obama's rhetorical sleight of hands and elisions, I thought he did an effective job of making America's case to the Muslim world. No question: He is a more effective salesman than his predecessor was. Which doesn't mean that his audience will buy the message. Boot also cited several passages that he "particularly liked." * In a June 4 post on the National Review Online blog The Corner, National Review editor and syndicated columnist Rich Lowry wrote of the speech: I have to go back and read it carefully, so I reserve the right to extend and revise my remarks. But on the whole I thought it was pretty good and I basically agree with Max Boot's take here. Yes, there were many things about which to cavil, there were missed opportunities, and he betrayed the disturbing weakness of his policy in certain key areas, Iran foremost among them. But the speech was an act of diplomacy and as such, it inevitably was going to skate over some inconvenient truths and tilt its presentation in a way to try to make it more persuasive to its target audience. Fundamentally, Obama's goal was to tell the Muslim world, "We respect and value you, your religion and your civilization, and only ask that you don't hate us and murder us in return." Bush tried to deliver the same message over and over again. The difference with Obama is that people might actually be willing to listen. In a second post later that day, Lowry wrote: I don't want to make exalted claims for the speech. It was a mixed bag and there are limits to the effect any one speech can have. But I think some in the conservative blogosphere are pronouncing it a scandal because they leave out all the good things. Consider: He extolled America as "one of the greatest sources of progress that the world has ever known"; pledged we will "relentlessly confront violent extremists who pose a grave threat to our country"; condemned Holocaust denial as "baseless, ignorant, and hateful"; said "it is a sign of neither courage nor power to shoot rockets at sleeping children, or to blow up old women on a bus"; insisted that "the Arab-Israel conflict should no longer be used to distract the people of Arab nations from other problems"; and called for more democracy, religious freedom, and women's rights in the Muslim world. And he got a standing ovation. That should count for something. My standard is not whether Obama gave a speech I'd totally agree with (not going to happen), or whether it was strictly accurate as a matter of history of Koranic exegesis (irrelevant), but whether the speech will, on balance, help isolate Islamic extremists intellectually and politically, or not. Since I think it will, I consider it a success. * In a June 4 post on the blog RedState, conservative blogger Dan Spencer wrote, "This was one of President Obama's more important speeches and he rose to the occasion and delivered a fine speech." * In a June 4 Newsmax.com column, chief Washington correspondent Ronald Kessler wrote, "There is a right way to diminish recruitment of terrorists, and there is a wrong way ... The right way is for the president to give an honest and thoughtful speech such as Barack Obama did in Cairo." Kessler also stated, "Obama sounded like an American president who we want to succeed." From the June 4 edition of Fox News' Hannity: HANNITY: While much of America was asleep this morning, President Barack Obama delivered a major address in Egypt that was billed as a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world. But in the end, the president decided to use his time on foreign soil to point the finger directly at America for many of the world's problems. And he faulted the U.S. for the tension that exists between Americans and Muslims. And that is our headline tonight: "Blaming America First." Now, in his remarks, Mr. Obama refused to use these words: "terror," "terrorism," "terrorists," or even that term "manmade disasters." But he repeatedly quoted the Quran and even accused Americans of overreacting to the 9-11 terror attacks. seems to me hannity kind of distorted things didn't he sorry, this was supposed to be in response to post # 8 |
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2009/06/06 05:17AM
#15
2009/06/07 06:30AM
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bigtimesoapfan |
Quote raving: Quote Eppy: Quote bigtimesoapfan: I watch other news channels I just find that those are biased! all you hear is Democrats good and Republicans bad, that is untrue both sides have good and bad! How often do you hear whats really going on, all we hear is how wonderful our president is! he has wasted more $$ while he's been in office than other presidents behind him! He is selling out our nation IMO and when everyone wakes up it'll be too late! I hope I'm wrong but I don't trust him! It's a gut feeling! People can white wash it any way they want but facts are facts and covering them up doesn't help!! That's not all I hear. Just how is he selling out? We woke up from the Bush administration and it was ----- that close to being too late. Cheney running around justifying torture while George Bush runs and hides in the bushes. sorry..but ...LOL to your last line eppy!!! that cracked me up...well the mental picture it gave me did!...ok carry on! Im no Bush fan but in his defense at least he loves his country! He doesn't make apoligies for it or go to other countries and say things against our people! But hey thats just me!! |
#16
2009/06/07 08:13AM
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Sundevil98 |
I think its pretty evident by now where every poster stands on this subject! Republicans love Fox and Dems hate it.... |
#17
2009/06/07 10:38AM
Re: Fox News fair and balanced
Eppy |
If the media was so liberal and biased, why is it we all seem to know what's going on. Don't we get our information from some sort of media outlet. I don't think any of us are misled by a 'liberal' media ~ example: Bill Clinton and Monica Lowenski ad nauseum for months - every aspect and detail. I didn't get that information from pamphlets mysteriously floating from the sky!!! |
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2009/06/07 03:36PM
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cats meow |
quote bigtimesoapfan.....Im no Bush fan but in his defense at least he loves his country! He doesn't make apoligies for it or go to other countries and say things against our people! But hey thats just me!! |
#19
2009/06/07 03:48PM
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StL Cardinal... |
Quote Sundevil98: I think its pretty evident by now where every poster stands on this subject! Republicans love Fox and Dems hate it.... But you know.....the liberals can always quote what has been said on FOX news....if you don't like FOX news there are little buttons on your remote that will change the channel or you can even program your TV so the channels that you don't like won't even show up as choices when you surf. But they have to watch......so they know what to "Whine" about. |
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2009/06/07 03:59PM
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cats meow |
Quote StL Cardinal Fan: Quote Sundevil98: I think its pretty evident by now where every poster stands on this subject! Republicans love Fox and Dems hate it.... But you know.....the liberals can always quote what has been said on FOX news....if you don't like FOX news there are little buttons on your remote that will change the channel or you can even program your TV so the channels that you don't like won't even show up as choices when you surf. But they have to watch......so they know what to "Whine" about. i was just about to sign off but i took one last look i have be told personally by a few conservatives i should listen to fox news to get the real facts, are you suggesting i shouldn't, i will look for your response tomorrow, have a nice evening |
#21
2009/06/08 07:52AM
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lovesit |
cats...sorry. I forgot I posted on this thread, so I didn't look at it again until just now. |
#22
2009/06/08 08:07AM
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bigtimesoapfan |
Quote cats meow: quote bigtimesoapfan.....Im no Bush fan but in his defense at least he loves his country! He doesn't make apoligies for it or go to other countries and say things against our people! But hey thats just me!! are you saying obama doesn't love his country? If the shoe fits! I don't trust him it's a gut feeling! I think a majority of the changes he is making are huge mistakesex. the gov getting involved with the banks owning car companies etc, this isn't what our 4 fathers wanted! He has no respect for our constitution! His remark during his speech that this wasn't a christian nation anymore is so false it's not even funny and his comment about this being a muslim nation is ridiculous! Yes we have them just like we have many other minorities but thats as far as it goes! I find it funny that before he was elected he denied his muslim roots and now he is embracing them He's a hypocrite!!! and his stand on Isreal infuriates me and Im not even Jewish! The Palestinians IMO, will not stop with a small piece of land! They will not stop until they have wiped Isreal off the face of our Earth! Either Obama is really Niave or he knows full well I go with the later! I can't wait for his term to be over! Hopefully we will still be satanding when that day comes! Right now imo it seems like he wants to bankrupt us so we don't stand a chance! This is my opinion only!! |
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2009/06/08 08:07AM
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cats meow |
Quote lovesit: cats...sorry. I forgot I posted on this thread, so I didn't look at it again until just now. I meant to say "rubbing OFF on me" Now do you get it? You were being rowdy, so I felt tlike being that way, too.  I laughed out loud when you kept asking what rubbing on you means! OMG, i thought it was a southern term, LOL, i think you could be right....it all started with 'WHAT'S THAT AVI" and mushroomed from there 
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#24
2009/06/08 08:10AM
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cats meow |
Quote bigtimesoapfan: Quote cats meow: quote bigtimesoapfan.....Im no Bush fan but in his defense at least he loves his country! He doesn't make apoligies for it or go to other countries and say things against our people! But hey thats just me!! are you saying obama doesn't love his country? If the shoe fits! I don't trust him it's a gut feeling! I think a majority of the changes he is making are huge mistakesex. the gov getting involved with the banks owning car companies etc, this isn't what our 4 fathers wanted! He has no respect for our constitution! His remark during his speech that this wasn't a christian nation anymore is so false it's not even funny and his comment about this being a muslim nation is ridiculous! Yes we have them just like we have many other minorities but thats as far as it goes! I find it funny that before he was elected he denied his muslim roots and now he is embracing them He's a hypocrite!!! and his stand on Isreal infuriates me and Im not even Jewish! The Palestinians IMO, will not stop with a small piece of land! They will not stop until they have wiped Isreal off the face of our Earth! Either Obama is really Niave or he knows full well I go with the later! I can't wait for his term to be over! Hopefully we will still be satanding when that day comes! Right now imo it seems like he wants to bankrupt us so we don't stand a chance! This is my opinion only!! WOW, can you give me a link so i can read the speech? i did not know he said those things editing to ask...did you read my #14 post on this page? |
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#25
2009/06/08 08:15AM
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bigtimesoapfan |
Not sure I heard it on 3 different news channels( Work o/n nothing on after 3 am.) I heard him say the speech on 3 diffenet stations Fox, MSNBC, and CNN as well as debates on it from each channel. I noticed that Fox (and their reporters(or whatever they call themselves) really was the only one that was outraged by his remarks. |
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