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Abortion Doctor Murdered

Started by cats meow at 2009/06/01 05:00AM
Latest post: 2009/06/09 08:47AM, Views: 1794, Replies: 187
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#51   2009/06/04 10:41AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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Quote lovesit:
Quote raving:
Quote lovesit:
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Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach:
Quote cats meow: do you know what late term abortion is?? when it is deemed necessary to save the life of the mother, another doctor must be consulted before anything is done, the procedure, or abortion, so i do not get called out on semantics, will not go forward unless, the two doctors agree it is necessary, how dare anyone get involved with a decision like that!!!! that is between the patient, her husband or whomever, and the doctor
that is the way it is, and rightly so
why wouldn't a pro choicer come to the conclusion that you bolded ej?
if a life is a life worth saving .....no matter what...then you should most definitely not be defending the dr.s death ( not you ej.. others)

You are so right Cats and the BS from the ones who don't know wth they are talking about is so deep in this thread I need boots just to open it up. FACT!!!! There are only 3 yes 3 facilities inb this country who even do late term abortions. FACT only 1.5 percent. YES 1.5 percent of aborthions done are late term abortions. Do some research people before you jump on the mob band wagon that murders people yourselves. I am so tired of people who do not give a shi# that this man was murdered by the very people who CLAIM to be saving lives. Guess is is ok as long as you murder the ones they dont like. It is nothing but hypocritical to just skip over the fact that pro-lifers KILL people. Did God tell them to go murder this doctor???? Did God tell them to bomb all these clinics and kill innocent people??? Surely he must have because it is all supposed to be done in the name of God!!!! Well I just hope that when their own 9 year old gets pregnant by her father who is molesting her or their 12 year old is brutally gang raped or their daughter might die giving birth, well then I hope they stand by the bull they are shooting out now. Imo MANY pro-lifers are the most heartless and evil people I have ever known. I am ashamed to say that these people are championing around murders just because they kill the ones they want them to kill. What is wrong with this picture???

Also there is no way in h^ll you can get this thread back on track. Most conservative guns only shoot one kind of bullet. bla bla bla.

I am still waiting on some of the prolifers to come on here and tell us how many unwanted kids they have adopted. Good thing I am not holding my breath. HAHAHAHAHA never gonna see that one happen. All talk!!!




Maybe this...this part I have bolded, is why other posters don't care to answer your questions.

Editing to add...you want everyone to see this from your point of view, but you hurl insults at them. And why?, b/c they believe unborn babies deserve a chance at life. How is it that those who fight for the rights of unborn children, who are truly the most helpless & voiceless in our society, are the heartless ones? In what twisted world is it evil to claim that an unborn child has the right to not be killed it's mother's womb?


Lovely try Ej.....you are a master at deflection and avoidence!!! I request that all...pro life...pro choice poster go back and read from page one...I think youll see a trend towards aggression...beginning with the pro life sides comments to the pro choice,.,.....Wanna is entitled to her opinion as you are too.....but tha facts are,,,,,you are defending a murderer.....and being a hypocrit to the very platform you are screaming from.....


there was never an advocation by any poster for the murder of this doctor. If you need reassurance about EJ, refer to post #12. No one is a hypocrite on this thread that I see, even those that sterotype and/or commence the aggression.


again....maybe you need to go back and read through this.....I am not going to call anyone out ( as you have) but there is a poster that most certainly say...oh well who cares....and went on at length about fox new reporting that he ( the doctor) had murdered thousands of babies late term....sooo re read it please!


Then apparently we interpret the posts differntly. I saw advocations of pro-life and pro-choice, but I specifically read where every one admitted his murder was illegal and his murderer should be punished. Where do you see any advocation of his murder?

Pro-life, pro-choice, and this murderer are 3 very different scenarios.

And I know very well who you are speaking of, and there are posters in this thread who are very aggressive from both sides, so I was not implying the aggression from one poster in particular. If calling out wannazach for stereotyping was wrong, I apologize, I just imterpreted their posts about adoptions as baiting, so I assumed fair game. But honestly, I was not trying to be confrontational, just unbiased and fair about both sides. If I wasn't, I truly apologize.
To be fair, I admit I believe the pro-life side started more aggressively. My problem, though, is the stereotyping. The saying that every pro-lifer must adopt or they do not value life.


love sit....wanna is certainly NOT saying pro lifers MUST adopt...she is saying that if the life you want saved is so important to you....and you feel so deeply about it....then why havent you gone the extra mile and taken on the crack babies, the older children that have been in the systen for so long? ( other reasons too....but thats 2 I will mention)Its hard to hear how they should all be entitled to life even if that life will be a miserable existence....she is trying to give an explanation ( i think) of what taking the CHOICE away really means.....it means overflowing orphanages.....it means children out there with not much quality of life....so if you impose the idea that you have no right to choose...you need to be willing to stand up and go the distance with your belief......adopt the needy...adopt the mentally challenged...the physically challenged....the older .....as well as the perfect.

#52   2009/06/04 10:58AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
lovesit
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Quote raving:
Quote lovesit:
Quote raving:
Quote lovesit:
Quote raving:
Quote alwaysEJ:
Quote wannazach:
Quote cats meow: do you know what late term abortion is?? when it is deemed necessary to save the life of the mother, another doctor must be consulted before anything is done, the procedure, or abortion, so i do not get called out on semantics, will not go forward unless, the two doctors agree it is necessary, how dare anyone get involved with a decision like that!!!! that is between the patient, her husband or whomever, and the doctor
that is the way it is, and rightly so
why wouldn't a pro choicer come to the conclusion that you bolded ej?
if a life is a life worth saving .....no matter what...then you should most definitely not be defending the dr.s death ( not you ej.. others)

You are so right Cats and the BS from the ones who don't know wth they are talking about is so deep in this thread I need boots just to open it up. FACT!!!! There are only 3 yes 3 facilities inb this country who even do late term abortions. FACT only 1.5 percent. YES 1.5 percent of aborthions done are late term abortions. Do some research people before you jump on the mob band wagon that murders people yourselves. I am so tired of people who do not give a shi# that this man was murdered by the very people who CLAIM to be saving lives. Guess is is ok as long as you murder the ones they dont like. It is nothing but hypocritical to just skip over the fact that pro-lifers KILL people. Did God tell them to go murder this doctor???? Did God tell them to bomb all these clinics and kill innocent people??? Surely he must have because it is all supposed to be done in the name of God!!!! Well I just hope that when their own 9 year old gets pregnant by her father who is molesting her or their 12 year old is brutally gang raped or their daughter might die giving birth, well then I hope they stand by the bull they are shooting out now. Imo MANY pro-lifers are the most heartless and evil people I have ever known. I am ashamed to say that these people are championing around murders just because they kill the ones they want them to kill. What is wrong with this picture???

Also there is no way in h^ll you can get this thread back on track. Most conservative guns only shoot one kind of bullet. bla bla bla.

I am still waiting on some of the prolifers to come on here and tell us how many unwanted kids they have adopted. Good thing I am not holding my breath. HAHAHAHAHA never gonna see that one happen. All talk!!!




Maybe this...this part I have bolded, is why other posters don't care to answer your questions.

Editing to add...you want everyone to see this from your point of view, but you hurl insults at them. And why?, b/c they believe unborn babies deserve a chance at life. How is it that those who fight for the rights of unborn children, who are truly the most helpless & voiceless in our society, are the heartless ones? In what twisted world is it evil to claim that an unborn child has the right to not be killed it's mother's womb?


Lovely try Ej.....you are a master at deflection and avoidence!!! I request that all...pro life...pro choice poster go back and read from page one...I think youll see a trend towards aggression...beginning with the pro life sides comments to the pro choice,.,.....Wanna is entitled to her opinion as you are too.....but tha facts are,,,,,you are defending a murderer.....and being a hypocrit to the very platform you are screaming from.....


there was never an advocation by any poster for the murder of this doctor. If you need reassurance about EJ, refer to post #12. No one is a hypocrite on this thread that I see, even those that sterotype and/or commence the aggression.


again....maybe you need to go back and read through this.....I am not going to call anyone out ( as you have) but there is a poster that most certainly say...oh well who cares....and went on at length about fox new reporting that he ( the doctor) had murdered thousands of babies late term....sooo re read it please!


Then apparently we interpret the posts differntly. I saw advocations of pro-life and pro-choice, but I specifically read where every one admitted his murder was illegal and his murderer should be punished. Where do you see any advocation of his murder?

Pro-life, pro-choice, and this murderer are 3 very different scenarios.

And I know very well who you are speaking of, and there are posters in this thread who are very aggressive from both sides, so I was not implying the aggression from one poster in particular. If calling out wannazach for stereotyping was wrong, I apologize, I just imterpreted their posts about adoptions as baiting, so I assumed fair game. But honestly, I was not trying to be confrontational, just unbiased and fair about both sides. If I wasn't, I truly apologize.
To be fair, I admit I believe the pro-life side started more aggressively. My problem, though, is the stereotyping. The saying that every pro-lifer must adopt or they do not value life.


love sit....wanna is certainly NOT saying pro lifers MUST adopt...she is saying that if the life you want saved is so important to you....and you feel so deeply about it....then why havent you gone the extra mile and taken on the crack babies, the older children that have been in the systen for so long? ( other reasons too....but thats 2 I will mention)Its hard to hear how they should all be entitled to life even if that life will be a miserable existence....she is trying to give an explanation ( i think) of what taking the CHOICE away really means.....it means overflowing orphanages.....it means children out there with not much quality of life....so if you impose the idea that you have no right to choose...you need to be willing to stand up and go the distance with your belief......adopt the needy...adopt the mentally challenged...the physically challenged....the older .....as well as the perfect.


While I see where she is coming from, she worded it very stereotypically, which makes the statements untrue. She stated every thing about every one as a stereotype. I have gone back and looked, and I can't find any post that does not back my statement up.

Every conservative shoots only one bullet...well yea! Just admit also that every liberal does the same kind of shooting...She wouldn't, b/c that would be stereotyping her own agenda.
Every pro-lifer should adopt if they truly believe in pro-life...well, where is my pro-choice for that matter? It deals with the same baby.
Pro-lifers kill people...well, duh. As do pro-choicers, Christains, Muslims, Conservatives, Liberals, Scientologists...want me to go on?
I just see every stereotype in her statements. If I'm wrong, then I am just interpreting wrong I guess. Or maybe she just needs to word better. I word crappy all the time. But at least try and be fair.

#53   2009/06/04 11:07AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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bigs

who the H do you think you are? your post was cold & uncalled for.

yes u may not like what he did but that doesn't change the fact that he was murdered.

also theres a saying in the bible

whoever is without sin cast the first stone.

i can't believe your getting a kick out of his murder shame on you

#54   2009/06/04 11:16AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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Quote alwaysEJ: cats -

this is an article on Dr. Tiller. I don't have time to read the whole thing right now but will later.

Right now it's hard to find much that doesn't focus on his shooting.

online.wsj.com/article/SB124407988050683807.html


i finally got it to paste and it said no such site, i give up, i want to throw this thing off our cliff, which happens to be 90 feet

#55   2009/06/04 11:22AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
cats meow
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i do have a question for every one, and i am not being sarcastic, i am just curious...... your husband has to choose to save you or the baby, no chance both can survive, who would he choose, being raised a catholic i had this discussion with my parents,(i am 58) they are both gone and for too long a time, my dad said he would always choose my mom, then they would try again, that made me proud, it was very hard for either of them to go against church doctrine, anyway, my husband feels the same way, even tho we do not have children


why hasn't anyone answered this question

#56   2009/06/04 11:34AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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in response to your question

my husband would get rid of the child to save me. cause he has told me that

in my opinion i would die in my childs place to give him life.

although we love each other very much & our blessed with a beautiful baby boy we disagree on that issue. lol but it's all good



also that is a good question & i hope you get alot of different answers

#57   2009/06/04 11:36AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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Quote cats meow: i do have a question for every one, and i am not being sarcastic, i am just curious...... your husband has to choose to save you or the baby, no chance both can survive, who would he choose, being raised a catholic i had this discussion with my parents,(i am 58) they are both gone and for too long a time, my dad said he would always choose my mom, then they would try again, that made me proud, it was very hard for either of them to go against church doctrine, anyway, my husband feels the same way, even tho we do not have children


why hasn't anyone answered this question


I would hope if either mine or my baby's life was in danger, my life would be chosen. Not because I am selfish, but because my existing children need a mother, and my husband needs a wife.

#58   2009/06/04 11:44AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
juliet
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i also have an 8 year old daughter & she would probably choose my husbands choice over mine.

#59   2009/06/04 11:45AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
cats meow
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lovesit, that is such a sensible answer and juliet, high five to your hubby

#60   2009/06/04 11:49AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
cats meow
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Quote juliet: i also have an 8 year old daughter & she would probably choose my husbands choice over mine.




it is horrible when you lose your mother, no matter what age you are, believe me, can you imagine how hard it would be for your husband to care for an 8 yr old who is shattered and an infant

#61   2009/06/04 11:50AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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cats

thanks i will tell him that.

#62   2009/06/04 11:54AM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
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Quote cats meow: lovesit, that is such a sensible answer and juliet, high five to your hubby


Thanks, I think .
It would still kill me, though. I consider myself pro-life (with the 3 exception I stated earlier) but me living would not make it any easier for me. Based on my previous miscarriage, I would have to look at it as God's birth control. He in turn gives me the chance to try again. But that is just me!

#63   2009/06/04 12:03PM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
juliet
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cats i hear you i think my choice stems from the abortion that i had honestly i don't think i could live if my baby died to save me. it would probably kill me

also my hubby is a step father to my daughter were trying to get her dad to sign away his rights so my hubby can adopt her.

our son is the first child for him also this is the first marriage for both of us.

#64   2009/06/04 12:26PM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
cats meow
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Quote juliet: cats i hear you i think my choice stems from the abortion that i had honestly i don't think i could live if my baby died to save me. it would probably kill me

also my hubby is a step father to my daughter were trying to get her dad to sign away his rights so my hubby can adopt her.

our son is the first child for him also this is the first marriage for both of us.


good luck to you on the adoption, and i hope you never have to face that decision again

#65   2009/06/04 12:32PM
Re: Abortion Doctor Murdered
juliet
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thank you again. were done having kids we made the decision together. but i am so happy i got one of each

my daughters dad is being a real prick about it. he lives in PA & we live in WV.

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